[PS2] PCSX2 Discussion.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Dec 2008 03:14    Post subject: [PS2] PCSX2 Discussion.
Glottis wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
No, but hair and textures in clothing DO clip and disappear in the original -- symptoms you described and attributed to the emulator alone.

Yes I know it's hard to explain but in PCSX2 emulation they clip and glitch even more.

Speaking of Rogue Galaxy in that, if I remember correctly, shadows aren't visible as well as shit load of glitches. But maybe they fixed some of that recently.



Splintered off from the other one so we don't keep threadjacking, heh.

From what I've seen, in regards to the FF titles, is that they're about even in glitches - depending on what plugins you use. GSdx is more compatible, ZeroGS *used* to be the best but it had far too many graphical issues. The rare times where you see clipping and missing textures, are either;

A. ALSO in the PS2 original

or

B. Honestly inconsequential and shouldn't be used as a reason to deride the emulator.

Of course people want 100% Perfection -- but even PS1 emulation isn't that advanced. All I'm saying is that PCSX2 has come along much further than you think. It's not perfect, nor do I think it will be for a very long time, but it's no longer at the stage of "Some games are playable, with glitches, while most don't even go in-game" -- the latest SVN releases are like digital ambrosia. It's probably fair to say you'll find more games that are completely playable (start to finish) than not.

You are, of course, correct about Rogue Galaxy. It has got issues, unfortunately. Shadows are on/off, you need to enable the DaZ hack just so you can move and you need a Core2 processor clocked at OVER 3.6Ghz in order to get 100% speed. Still, the game is completable Wink
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Dec 2008 04:28    Post subject:
what about shadow of the colossus or gradius??
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Dec 2008 07:30    Post subject:
can I play GTA Liberty City Stories and Vice City Stories with an Intel Dual core e5200 and an nvidia 9500?


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Dec 2008 10:48    Post subject:
@Digitalman

I'm not sure about Gradius, but as far as I know, SoC requires too powerful a machine to run at fullspeed.. even today >_<

Give one of the latest SVN builds a try.

@CostelD

It depends on what speed the proc is running at. 3Ghz and above seems to be the sweet spot.
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Dec 2008 12:27    Post subject:
The PS2 itself struggles to run Shadow of the Colossus so that's not surprising.


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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Dec 2008 12:37    Post subject:
I've never even played the game before, either.
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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Dec 2008 13:21    Post subject:
You're missing out, it's a classic! ICO and Shadow of the Colossus are the two biggest reasons I miss backwards compatibility on the PS3.


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PostPosted: Fri, 12th Dec 2008 13:23    Post subject:
I keep hearing about how awesome ICO is/was.. but I'm sure I've played it before -- wasn't it a platformer?
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Mar 2009 11:10    Post subject:
Any config tips to play FFXII, ICO and SotC with my old cow:

x2 5600+, 8800gt 512, 2gb ram, xp sp3.

Only tried FFXII; Good fps and absolutely playable with default settings, but speed could be better in some areas. I´ve read it´s not that easy with SotC Sad.
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Mar 2009 11:13    Post subject:
I've never tried the Shadow game, mate, it wasn't really my deal -- but the absolute best thing you can do is clock your processor. PCSX2 is very much dependant on CPU speed and anything over 3Ghz seems to be the magic zone.
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Mar 2009 12:43    Post subject:
when you say 3 ghz you mean single or duo?? I have a 1.8 duo2 is that fast enough or no?
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Mar 2009 12:44    Post subject:
I mean dual-core, yes. A 1.8Ghz dual-core simply will NOT be fast enough, mate, not even for FFX I'd wager.
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Mar 2009 12:46    Post subject:
I've tried God of War 2 and Shadow of the Colossus with a E8500, both ran slow. I know 30 or even 40 frames aren't that bad, but it is when the game is obviously designed for 50 or 60. I haven't fiddled much with speed hacks and such though.
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Mar 2009 12:50    Post subject:
Definitely look into speedhacks and SVN releases. They help performance a helluva lot.
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Mar 2009 15:53    Post subject:
ico is cool, sabin. try it. it's basically a moody environmental puzzler. clicky here for a double review: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/r_icorereview_ps2

shadow of the colossus is also worth playing, it's a sort of sequel. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/r_sotc_ps2

also shouldn't this be in the pc arena? i mean it's about a program running on the pc, after all.
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Mar 2009 18:54    Post subject:
Ispep wrote:
You're missing out, it's a classic! ICO and Shadow of the Colossus are the two biggest reasons I miss backwards compatibility on the PS3.


Yup, i play SOC on my PS3 still. IMO it looks amazing for a PS2 game. I never played it on PS2, but my son has it, so itried it in the PS3, and its great.


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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Mar 2009 19:03    Post subject:
Bigperm wrote:
Ispep wrote:
You're missing out, it's a classic! ICO and Shadow of the Colossus are the two biggest reasons I miss backwards compatibility on the PS3.


Yup, i play SOC on my PS3 still. IMO it looks amazing for a PS2 game. I never played it on PS2, but my son has it, so itried it in the PS3, and its great.


PS3 not supporting backward compatibility anymore, it was a false way of tricking people in the beginning to buy a PS3, All xbox 360's support backwards compatibility and still do, Sony should learn from m$ and put their money where there mouth is and not backing down after a while when they think they can make more money by keeping the price high and not putting any more effort in promises like backwards compatibility. Mad
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PostPosted: Wed, 18th Mar 2009 21:58    Post subject:
Don't play Snake Eater, play Subsistence.


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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Mar 2009 06:34    Post subject:
Snake Eater is the best Metal Gear in my opinion more cinematic.
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Mar 2009 22:21    Post subject:
Shiiiiiit. *wracks brains* I KNOW there's a fix for the video slowdowns in MGS3. I remember reading about it on NGemu. I just can't remember what it was >_<
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PostPosted: Thu, 19th Mar 2009 23:46    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Shiiiiiit. *wracks brains* I KNOW there's a fix for the video slowdowns in MGS3. I remember reading about it on NGemu. I just can't remember what it was >_<

BUY A PS2
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 20:01    Post subject:
Spiderman wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
Shiiiiiit. *wracks brains* I KNOW there's a fix for the video slowdowns in MGS3. I remember reading about it on NGemu. I just can't remember what it was >_<

BUY A PS2


the emu is exactly for that reason. So people don't have to buy a ps2....
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sabin1981
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 20:38    Post subject:
Ooops, forgot to mention; PCSX2 has undergone a change, guys. Official and Playground teams are now together, on the same team, and they've just released 0.9.6. This release incorporates ALL the known fixes, patches and hacks thus far developed by the Playground team.

Definitely worth checking out, methinks!

http://www.pcsx2.net/
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