scene iso rules for homemade isos?
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grv




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 11:11    Post subject: scene iso rules for homemade isos?
did the scene rules for iso releases change?
homemade isos weren't allowed before and lately even groups like reloaded/razor have fallen and release homemade isos/steamrips without getting nuked.
e.g.:
left 4 dead/skidrow (steamrip)
F.E.A.R 2 Project Origin/die (steamrip)
Warhammer 40000 Dawn of War 2/ViTALiTY (steamrip)
Perimeter 2 New Earth/FLT (steamrip)
Silent Hill Homecoming/ViTALiTY (steamrip)
empire total war/Razor1911 (steamrip)
last remnant/reloaded (steamrip)
Watchmen End Is Nigh/Razor1911 (steamrip)
merchants of brrooklyn/Razor1911 (steamrip)

shouldn't these be in "pc game rips" section instead of "pc game isos"?
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 11:21    Post subject:
a "rip" means something has been "ripped" off to decrease size (music and videos usually). A "steam rip" is the integral game with anything left as such. Therefor it still qualifies as "Iso".

And about the "homemade" part, well, the only way to make a .iso of a game taken from steam IS homemade.
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wrathamon




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 11:40    Post subject:
OH NOES, tis homemade.
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damador.




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 12:07    Post subject:
for wh40k and ETW its simply cloned the retail dvd and change the installer (to skip steam authentication) - for other probably too

last steam expansion on the game market forced some groups to use so called " steam rip" images to get the game at all


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shole




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 12:07    Post subject:
i just find it fucking annoying that they still insist on putting them in an image file with a (crappy and often broken) installer
when you don't have an install media or even original installer, all 'purity' is lost anyway
just let us unrar the game directly, copy crack over and play
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 12:09    Post subject:
as long as they work who the fuk cares in which section they are or how they called, srsly
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Pixieking




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 14:10    Post subject:
shole wrote:
i just find it fucking annoying that they still insist on putting them in an image file with a (crappy and often broken) installer
when you don't have an install media or even original installer, all 'purity' is lost anyway
just let us unrar the game directly, copy crack over and play


But then, .iso is a form of compression, so you lose the iso, you're going to have more to download initially (in the same way that multi-rar'd releases are smaller than their un-rar'd iso/clonecd counterparts).

Mortibus wrote:
as long as they work who the fuk cares in which section they are or how they called, srsly


Meh. "Care" is too strong a word for me, but I'm certainly interested in how the Scene takes on-board different techniques and changes over time. Smile


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VGAdeadcafe




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 15:14    Post subject:
Isos aren't compressed.

Anyway, I agree with shole, they try to keep it close to the original steam release with the sim/sid files. But to decrypt them without steam they have to use simpack/custom installers.

Better 100% homemade in rars with just the files (crack in separate folder)
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EwarWoo1




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 15:21    Post subject:
shole wrote:
i just find it fucking annoying that they still insist on putting them in an image file with a (crappy and often broken) installer
when you don't have an install media or even original installer, all 'purity' is lost anyway
just let us unrar the game directly, copy crack over and play

It's just to make it convenient for people who like to burn to DVD. Not really a big deal if you just mount and copy over the RAR files instead, that's what I usually do and it takes seconds of effort then just leave your PC whilst it copies.

Everyone takes a toilet break at some point so not an hassle if you do it then .
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Glottis
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 15:25    Post subject:
It's all good that scene is getting more flexible with Steam releases, but they also shouldn't forget updates. Many games released on steam get updated alot the first week or two but scene groups don't seem to bother with these updates (even thou many of updates are crucial). Luckily we got JB Smile


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Dazz99




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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 15:40    Post subject:
the scene sucks now get used to it


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