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 Posted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 17:41 Post subject: Steam helped PC gaming A LOT. |
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Don't you agree?
This time last year we had pretty much nothing to play for months, the only thing to do was whine in the "PC gaming is dead" threads.
And look at the situation now, we get constant stream of PC games since the start of this year. We already had a few awesome PC exclusives. We even got games from genres that almost never made it to PC before (HAWX, The Last Remnanat, soon Street Fighter 4).
PC gaming rules 
P.S. I still hate Steam's 1€ = 1$ bullshit.
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 17:44 Post subject: |
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steam doesnt have anything to do with it - most of the games was developed long time ago or are console ports - steam only publish it via their own system - just like impulse but much worse and intrusive ;/
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 17:52 Post subject: |
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No take it personal, but the sentence "PC gaming is dead" is one of the stupidest things I have ever read. In fact, the only thing dying are game consoles, my Dreamcast, Nintendo 64 and PlayStation are dead, the same will happen with XBOX360 and PS3. PC just evolves. I never get the point and "logic" of some people.
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 17:54 Post subject: |
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Capcom has been pretty kind to PC gaming too in recent times.
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 18:07 Post subject: |
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| NeHoMaR wrote: | | No take it personal, but the sentence "PC gaming is dead" is one of the stupidest things I have ever read. In fact, the only thing dying are game consoles, my Dreamcast, Nintendo 64 and PlayStation are dead, the same will happen with XBOX360 and PS3. PC just evolves. I never get the point and "logic" of some people. |
in fact PC can be used for many things except games - X360/ps3 can only act as game station and crappy home theater system - no extension - crapy overpaid accesories and games that price are 150-200 % of the pc - dont forget about paid only multiplayer ;/
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 18:09 Post subject: |
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| damador. wrote: | | NeHoMaR wrote: | | No take it personal, but the sentence "PC gaming is dead" is one of the stupidest things I have ever read. In fact, the only thing dying are game consoles, my Dreamcast, Nintendo 64 and PlayStation are dead, the same will happen with XBOX360 and PS3. PC just evolves. I never get the point and "logic" of some people. |
in fact PC can be used for many things except games - X360/ps3 can only act as game station and crappy home theater system - no extension - crapy overpaid accesories and games that price are 150-200 % of the pc - dont forget about paid only multiplayer ;/ |
PS3 has free multiplayer, no? I would never pay for shit like live though, it's retarded that they make you pay to play online.
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 18:10 Post subject: |
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i hate steams racist profiling. aussie users get buttfucked because of it. 89 fucking $USD for cod4 last year... cod4 was a great game, but fuck off at that price. ill never buy a game from steam because of its racist profiling.
only thing i love about steam is because i love valve. steams got nothing to do with apart from bringing valves business/gaming ethics to my home with awesome games and industry leading dedication to updates.
i know its off topic, but i love valve... theyre awesome 
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 18:18 Post subject: |
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I never realized Australians were considered a different race.
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 18:21 Post subject: |
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and aren't the prices for steam fucked for everyone, except americans, not just aussies?
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 18:28 Post subject: |
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Oh! I forgot my opinion about Steam. Well, I don't really like it, BUT, that is PC evolving, in the future everything will be internet related, so, it's plenty normal the games will be all online (including installation). Even piracy will be impossible one of this days (my idea is PCs without hard disc with everything downloaded in real time from secure servers, but internet need better speeds, as fast as a LAN)
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 18:45 Post subject: |
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| NeHoMaR wrote: | | Oh! I forgot my opinion about Steam. Well, I don't really like it, BUT, that is PC evolving, in the future everything will be internet related, so, it's plenty normal the games will be all online (including installation). Even piracy will be impossible one of this days (my idea is PCs without hard disc with everything downloaded in real time from secure servers, but internet need better speeds, as fast as a LAN) |
No, the internet needs to be a LOT faster(like 10x) than LAN if what you're saying should happen which is quite impossible unless there's a major breakthrough. So ya, piracy can't be stopped...
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 19:14 Post subject: |
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| NeHoMaR wrote: | | Oh! I forgot my opinion about Steam. Well, I don't really like it, BUT, that is PC evolving, in the future everything will be internet related, so, it's plenty normal the games will be all online (including installation). Even piracy will be impossible one of this days (my idea is PCs without hard disc with everything downloaded in real time from secure servers, but internet need better speeds, as fast as a LAN) |
As data size is growing as fast as connection speed, such a thing will never happen in the near future.
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 19:50 Post subject: |
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i agree PC gaming is improving alot & we need in fact we must buy the top games we like to maintain a healthy PC gaming market otherwise its back to square one.
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 20:02 Post subject: |
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| NeHoMaR wrote: | | Oh! I forgot my opinion about Steam. Well, I don't really like it, BUT, that is PC evolving, in the future everything will be internet related, so, it's plenty normal the games will be all online (including installation). Even piracy will be impossible one of this days (my idea is PCs without hard disc with everything downloaded in real time from secure servers, but internet need better speeds, as fast as a LAN) |
you don't really know how computer work, do you ? ^^
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 20:41 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 21:51 Post subject: |
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No, i dont agree. They're selling games at very high price and i dont see the point to buy game from them for 50 euros, when in shops games with BOX costs almost 2 times cheaper.
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| Posted: Mon, 23rd Mar 2009 22:41 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | | NeHoMaR wrote: | | Oh! I forgot my opinion about Steam. Well, I don't really like it, BUT, that is PC evolving, in the future everything will be internet related, so, it's plenty normal the games will be all online (including installation). Even piracy will be impossible one of this days (my idea is PCs without hard disc with everything downloaded in real time from secure servers, but internet need better speeds, as fast as a LAN) |
you don't really know how computer work, do you ? ^^ |
Yes. And is very possible to make piracy impossible (even when I will hate that, look at my avatar). With impossible, I mean harder than steal your money from bank; that's plenty enough I think.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Mar 2009 00:17 Post subject: l |
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I agree that steam has helped a lot against pc piracy. But only in those cases where publisher constantly updates their games and in games that have strong multiplayer. Steam is great at both, pirate groups often don't release patches for steam games because various reasons, not a small reason to that is that most of the time noone even knows which files were updated. Football manager gained huge by steam protection and it looks like Empire TW gained a lot also. On the other hand, if game is not updated (even if its polished), without or with bad MP and scene release is good, then sales won't be as high.
Its multiplayer security is great also. Thousands of pirated serves like in COD and fiasco with one cd key as in GFWL, just don't happen here.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Mar 2009 04:17 Post subject: |
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I agree with the topic.
Steam has helped a lot. And I'm pretty sure TLR and other Japanese console games coming to the PC would have not been as smooth or even possible without Steam.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Mar 2009 05:24 Post subject: |
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Steam has also been really, really good for small, independent publishers. There are lots of games in the $10-$20 range that would never have seen the light of day without Steam, and many more that would not have gotten the sales they deserved.
As much as big budget games like L4D suck up time, there is something satisfying about knowing you're supporting a small team of independent developers, who often make really innovative and entertaining products.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Mar 2009 05:49 Post subject: |
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You missed a key line: "the Eee simply operates as a remote wireless"
That won't work across the internet.
It really doesn't matter what the website claims and any test on 2 PCs side by side like that don't really prove anything.
If i'm at work and I ping my home PC and get a ping response of 200ms, guess what? there will be lag. there is nothing that any device can do.
There are also massive bandwidth requirements to stream those kinds of graphics. Play an hour of crysis and you've gone over your limit for the month.
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Mar 2009 06:01 Post subject: |
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| crossmr wrote: | | There are also massive bandwidth requirements to stream those kinds of graphics. Play an hour of crysis and you've gone over your limit for the month. |
what limit? 
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Mar 2009 06:03 Post subject: |
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i wasn't saying it's a viable option right now. i'm not even a fan of the idea. my point was that the concept was valid.
have a look at this too: http://www.gametrailers.com/game/11029.html
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| Posted: Tue, 24th Mar 2009 07:26 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | my point was that the concept was valid |
No its not valid.
Because no matter what you do you won't overcome the ping problem which will introduce lag.
You might be able to stream from your home office to your home living room, but anything further than that is going to cause issues.
They're claiming no lag..but it isn't going to happen. I envision fPS to be completely unplayable on this service. RTs and turn based games might be fine.
However this service only works in ideal conditions.. how many times have you seen fluctuation in your connection in terms of speed and ping? Even googling this company gets nothing... nothing but stories.. their website doesn't even turn up in the first several pages of results.
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