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 Posted: Tue, 21st Jan 2020 15:19 Post subject: time to upgrade |
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So finally, after 6 years of trusty work, it is time to retire my old motherboard Z87X and 4790k
I managed to gather some money and my current idea is like this:
CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
PASTE Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
FAN NOCTUA NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK
MB MSI MEG X570 ACE 7C35-002R
RAM G.SKILL TRIDENT Z DIMM KIT 16GB F4-3600C15D-16GTZ x2
SSD SAMSUNG SSD 970 EVO PLUS 2TB MZ-V7S2T0BW
CASE COOLER MASTER MASTERCASE H500M MCM-H500M-IHNN-S00
PSU SEASONIC PRIME PX-850 850W PRIME-PX-850
SB Creative Sound BlasterX AE-5, 7.1, DAC
GPU will be carried over 1080Ti
Any recommendations?
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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garus
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Jan 2020 15:27 Post subject: |
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as stated, I will carry over my current 1080Ti, with the idea to hop on tho the next 3000GTX series or AMD equivalent when they hit the market
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Jan 2020 17:09 Post subject: |
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I would recommend a NVme over that Samsung
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Jan 2020 17:51 Post subject: |
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I recommend the ADATA XPG XS8200 Pro NVME SSD. Fast, relatively cheap.
Wouldn’t get that Creative crap. Instead look for some external DAC and AMP combo (or perhaps an all in one).
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Jan 2020 18:00 Post subject: |
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3900x is stupid unless You are a workhorse. Something like 3700x is more than enough.
Also - say no to any 2.5/3.5 drives. Just get NVME. Price is very similar right now so cut down on 3900x and add to nvme.
Then You get x570 motherboard with good audio and ditch that pointless sound blaster.
Noctua is fine - be quiet is the same but cheaper.
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Jan 2020 18:24 Post subject: |
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Get a 3700x, and use the extra budget on something like an AudioSource amp and good passive speakers.
Gustave the Steel
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Jan 2020 19:36 Post subject: |
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Looks good, i would stay away from Creative shit products, their drivers are absolutely mess and no one uses sound cards at 2020, get quality USB dac, do you have some headset or separate mic and headphones?
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Jan 2020 22:24 Post subject: |
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what are you all on about?
that SSD is nvme 
this x3900 IS my budget option, thought about going for x3950 
yes I am using separate headphones and mic
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Jan 2020 22:31 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Jan 2020 22:33 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Jan 2020 22:35 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Tue, 21st Jan 2020 22:41 Post subject: |
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as far as I can see 8200 pro isn't available here, only 8100 1TB
ALL TLC m2 2TB SSDs are around ~450eur here +-50eur
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Does the mic have usb or xlr connection? |
mic has small analog jack
headphones have big analog jack
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Jan 2020 11:52 Post subject: Re: time to upgrade |
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| StrEagle wrote: | So finally, after 6 years of trusty work, it is time to retire my old motherboard Z87X and 4790k
I managed to gather some money and my current idea is like this:
CPU AMD Ryzen 9 3900X
PASTE Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
FAN NOCTUA NH-D15 CHROMAX.BLACK
MB MSI MEG X570 ACE 7C35-002R
RAM G.SKILL TRIDENT Z DIMM KIT 16GB F4-3600C15D-16GTZ x2
SSD SAMSUNG SSD 970 EVO PLUS 2TB MZ-V7S2T0BW
CASE COOLER MASTER MASTERCASE H500M MCM-H500M-IHNN-S00
PSU SEASONIC PRIME PX-850 850W PRIME-PX-850
SB Creative Sound BlasterX AE-5, 7.1, DAC
GPU will be carried over 1080Ti
Any recommendations? |
Your plan with the rig?
If gaming:
Buy a new vidcard and forget these mumbo jumbo stuffs.
But of course that depends on what do you want to play.
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Jan 2020 15:05 Post subject: |
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and what card do you suppose I buy
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Jan 2020 15:43 Post subject: |
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yeah I don't want to pay 1000eur for just ~15% fps increase
and that is with selling my current for 500eur 
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Jan 2020 16:52 Post subject: |
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You're advocating a €1000+ GPU upgrade, from one that is already one of the best and most capable still on the market today. Why? What's the point? A 1080ti is *phenomenal* and absolutely does not need upgrading, not this year. To comfortably beat his existing 1080ti he'd need to buy a 2080 Super or a 2080ti. There's little to no point, not for 1440p.
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Jan 2020 18:40 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | You're advocating a €1000+ GPU upgrade, from one that is already one of the best and most capable still on the market today. Why? What's the point? A 1080ti is *phenomenal* and absolutely does not need upgrading, not this year. To comfortably beat his existing 1080ti he'd need to buy a 2080 Super or a 2080ti. There's little to no point, not for 1440p. |
Yes, like scenario 1. CPU + other stuff upgrade:
Fires up favorite game, okay according to fraps its like 3 fps more...ehhh
Scenario 2. GPU upgrade:
Like 10-15 FPS more, thats more like it.
What is better?
Again: if one wants it for gaming….
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Jan 2020 18:47 Post subject: |
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Because the 1080ti is still a fantastic 1080/1440p card, the rest of the upgrade improves the entire system and doesn't cost €1000+ --- and the 2080ti will be hamstrung by the older system, meaning he'll have to do that full system upgrade at some point anyhow.
| StrEagle wrote: | | as stated, I will carry over my current 1080Ti, with the idea to hop on tho the next 3000GTX series or AMD equivalent when they hit the market |
^^ and, as already stated, he's happy with his current GPU and will upgrade when the "next gen" cards arrive.
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Jan 2020 18:54 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | Because the 1080ti is still a fantastic 1080/1440p card, the rest of the upgrade improves the entire system and doesn't cost €1000+ --- and the 2080ti will be hamstrung by the older system, meaning he'll have to do that full system upgrade at some point anyhow.
| StrEagle wrote: | | as stated, I will carry over my current 1080Ti, with the idea to hop on tho the next 3000GTX series or AMD equivalent when they hit the market |
^^ and, as already stated, he's happy with his current GPU and will upgrade when the "next gen" cards arrive. |
Well, I smell marketing here nothing more. (Not from you, from the OP)
The need to upgrade without solid ground like:
I want to play metro exodus at 60fps+ or like mario 3 runs like shit…..etc.
I never upgrade "just because", I only upgrade when some game comes along and I really like it.
Far cry 3: ran like shit on my 460gtx, so I went ahead and purchased a newer card.
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Jan 2020 18:55 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Jan 2020 19:04 Post subject: |
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| sabin1981 wrote: | Marketing? WTF? It's StrEagle, he's a longtime member and not exactly some newbie shill
Meanwhile he has a, relatively!, ancient 4790K still hamstrung by DDR3 RAM, but a truly monstrous GTX1080ti that kicks every kind of ass, and wants to do a system upgrade. You're suggesting to not upgrade anything *but* the already strongest link in his system?  |
Whoever he/she is is not that important especially the DB entry creation date.
Even a newbie can be someone who has knowledge, and even a a long time member can do fool things (including me).
I'm just stating what I would do, nothing more. If that helps widen his/her perspective on the matter I'm all the happier, and vice versa, prove me why the need for the upgrade besides: old, why not, I have money to burn and I'm all the happier since I will have a wider perspective regarding upgrading.
I would either swap the vga, or do nothing.
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Jan 2020 21:23 Post subject: |
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1080Ti is still basically an RTX OFF 2080, cant get much better than that price / perf wise, 2080ti is around 30% faster currently, but the price premium between those is insane, not worth it if you already own 1080ti. 4790K starts to show its age purely core count wise, this is not gonna cut it anymore, next gen consoles has 8 cores / 16 threads, i would imagine 6 cores / 12 threads will be the absolutely minimum, since games are getting very heavily multithreaded.
What goes for GPU pricing, Nvidia is not gonna sell cards that has more performance than current cards for less price, that is for sure, if they will, this means AMD has more faster products.
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| Posted: Thu, 23rd Jan 2020 22:47 Post subject: |
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1080 Ti is ok but dont forget that NVIDIA is doing everything in it’s power to make you upgrade. This means that RTX cards have much better driver support in terms of optimizations and performance in general. 1080 Ti is good for what it’s worth but dont fool yourself by thinking it’s just a 2080 without RTX. It’s not.
I really wish that AMD brings some 1440p high end cards to make NVIDIA panic. Hell, it has been almost 20 years since we had real battle between them. 
Regarding the CPU, I wouldnt pick anything less than 8 cores anymore.
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