[XBOX360] Another JFlasher question - spoofed drive?
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 09:24    Post subject: [XBOX360] Another JFlasher question - spoofed drive?
So, i once again turn to the knowing people around here Very Happy

Here's the deal: My GF has a flashed 360, with a spoofed Samsung drive in it, since it used to have a LiteOn, and she bought it preflashed, and at that time there was no iX for the LiteOn.

Now, can i reflash the Samsung with iX 1.6, without the original FW? (I read somewhere that you should keep you original FW when flashing from stock FW).

Any quick guide? I've reflashed my own BenQ, so im not totally lost, but i've never done anything related to spoofed drives..


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 09:39    Post subject:
I've not done anything in regards to spoofed drives, but I can answer the one question; You don't need the original firmware if you've already flashed before. iPrep and JFlasher read the key and relevant data from the existing firmware Smile

.... not sure if that helps your current predicament though. LOGICALLY, I'd assume you should have no problems - just as long as you flash with the correct firmware for the drive your machine *thinks* it is. So if you have a Sammy that is spoofed as a Lite-On, then make sure you edit the iX1.6 Sammy firmware so that it is spoofed for Lite-On, then flash! I don't know if you can just flash the *real* Lite-On 1.6 firmware instead .. not now you've already spoofed it.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 09:45    Post subject:
That was what i was thinking too - read the orig-FW, then use that as Source FW in JF?


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 09:53    Post subject:
Aye, it sounds logical bud.

Hell, I didn't (couldn't) even use JFlasher. I just created a USB boot disk with iPrep 008.8 and dropped to DOS. Two commands later, I was upgraded from iX1.41 to iX1.6 - but that was a pure Benny with no spoofing done :-\
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 10:27    Post subject:
You won't need the original FW for a reflash. The original key is already incorporated in the hacked FW, so JF just takes it out of the old hacked FW. The original FW is necessary if you send your Xbox to MS and want to be totally safe, though reports are they don't bother checking the FW. You can just get someone else's orignal FW and use your own key if that ever is needed.
The FW isn't important, teh key is. And that key is always used in the hacked FW, it wouldn't work without it. As long as you don't erase your hacked FW without first backing it up, it's all fine.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 10:37    Post subject:
I don't know about JFlasher (x64 OS means no PortIO and no Windows flashing) but iPrep has you run dXXX (dBen, dSam, etc etc) to dump your firmware as a backup before running fXXX (fBen, fSam, etc etc) to flash it.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 11:29    Post subject:
JF has that too, but no software is truly foolproof. But anyone capable enough to download and burn Xbox Iso's, should be able to work with JF. It's as easy as it gets. You're basically pushing some buttons in the correct order Razz
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 12:02    Post subject:
Okay, so here's what im GUESSING is the right way?

* Connect
* Burn/use Activate.iso (is it absolutely neccessary to use a DL disc?)
* Dump the existent FW (wich has the key)
* (Now here's me guessing) Load up the dumped FW as Source, then the new iX 1.6 Samsung FW as target, then click Spoof source to target? Then write to drive with MTK Flash? Or do i have to do anything with a LiteOn FW?


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 12:04    Post subject:
Why do you need to use Activate.iso? As far as I'm aware, that's a bootdisk for the 360 to temporarily disable the extra security measures put in place to stop non-stealth games loading.


Or am I completely off-base here?

The rest, however, sounds about right - I just wish I could tell you for sure from my own experience Sad
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 12:25    Post subject:
Yep, activate.iso has nothing to do with flashing. It's just necessary if you absolutely need to play a non-stelth iso.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 13:33    Post subject:
I needed the activate.iso to flash a samsung m28 so you may need it.

I think, I've only done it once and it was awhile ago..
1) connect drive to pc
2) Unspoof drive to be samsung
3) restore to original key AND original firmware
4) re-flash with new firmware and spoofed key (with samsung think you need activate.iso to flick drive into debug)(a bit like mode-B with hitachi's)
5) spoof drive as being liteon.

parts 4 and 5 are a bit of a guess but I seem to remember doing that way round.

Textbooks tutorial I think covers it. Just redownloading to check

You need to restore the original firmware initially as JFlash won't re-flash already flashed drives (i.e. ones with IX on it).


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 13:37    Post subject:
grimmmy wrote:

You need to restore the original firmware initially as JFlash won't re-flash already flashed drives (i.e. ones with IX on it).


In that case, screw JFlasher then. Get iPrep 008. It reads the key from the existing firmware and then flashes the new one. Instantly. No messing about.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 13:39    Post subject:
I didn't have to reflash to the original FW first using JF (BenQ). Textbook doesn't cover JF I think, unless he updated his guide. But finding a simple guide via google should be very easy.

JF is very easy Sabin, especially if you're using a BenQ drive. It's literally clicking some buttons, nothing else.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 13:43    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
Yep, activate.iso has nothing to do with flashing. It's just necessary if you absolutely need to play a non-stelth iso.


So, my guesswork was correct? The procedure i posted is the way to go?

Well except for the activate.iso ofc then


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 13:53    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:

JF is very easy Sabin, especially if you're using a BenQ drive. It's literally clicking some buttons, nothing else.


I wasn't disputing that, nor do I know *how* easy it is since I can't use it Razz PortIO doesn't work on x64.

My comment was in regards too;

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You need to restore the original firmware initially as JFlash won't re-flash already flashed drives (i.e. ones with IX on it).


JF won't, or can't, flash directly onto an existing iX drive? Well that sucks because iPrep can - and does.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 13:57    Post subject:
Well I can't say anything definitve about a spoofed drive, but I think you just need to follow the Lite-On procedure. And since the drive is already flashed before, you don't need extra steps to get the key. Be sure to backup the dumped FW though, if that's gone you're screwed. Again, the FW isn't important, the unique key in it is. The original FW can be recovered by using someone else's original FW, but once your key is lost you're screwed.

Here's a nice guide: http://www.ixtreme.net/xbox-360-tutorials/flashing-lite-16d2s-from-ixtreme-t11.html

PS. JF can flash a flashed drive.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 13:58    Post subject:
I couldn't get IPrep to work on my pc which sucks. I'd have gone down that route otherwise.

I'm paying particular attention now as I've going to flash my red xbox tonight (liteon drive).
If it all goes horribly wrong I've got a flashed hitachi and a flashed samsung sat under the bed. Never done a liteon before though.


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 14:01    Post subject:
I'm also paying close attention. I raged about my 360 dying the other day, but I'm 75% convinced that the machine ITSELF is golden - it's the VGA cable that's dead. It powers up and runs fine IF the cable is disconnected .... if I reconnect the cable, I get an almost-instant E74 death. According to MS the first thing to do when getting an E74 is change the cable, so I'm gonna do that on Saturday.

Anyway my point is; if the machine is dead - I'm gonna try for an RMA, if that fails (opened case, etc etc) I'll need to get a new machine. Either option will result in getting a Lite-On based machine, so I need to know how to flash properly.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 14:02    Post subject:
Nothing can go wrong as long as you have your key. Erase all you want, as long as you have your key you can recover the drive.

For a stock Lite-on you apparently need to buy a connectivity kit, though I never saw or tried one myself.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 15:39    Post subject:
I bought one of them.

CK3 do a bundle with the probe and connectivity kit. All you really need is the probe (to get the key) but the other bit makes life significantly easier.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 15:57    Post subject:
Thanks, for the help guys, but im still a bit confused (since it's spoofed) - i mean its physically a Samsung drive, so i think i need to do the Samsung procedure? But then again, how can the 360 "know" its a LiteOn Confused

Bah..


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 16:08    Post subject:
Try this mate;

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=680261


It looks to me like you just run the procedure as if the drive IS the Samsung one (yes, even though it's spoofed as Lite-On) - just make sure to dump and read the current firmware first so that JF knows it's a spoof and gets the right keycode.


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 16:09    Post subject:
just found this on team-xecuter site. Its not overly indepth but they show screens for spoofing a samsung with a liteon.

Its pretty much how you detailed I think. Follow the Samsung procedure and then
The final step you spoof the drive and put the liteon key in but it still essentially is a sammy drive using sammy firmware.

This might be handy as well.


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 16:27    Post subject:
Hm yes, strange. There are several recommendations, I have no idea which one should work. One says you just have to flash it the Samsung way, but I doubt that's it since JF recognizes it as Lite-On. I think you need to spoof it first, using an orig.bin for Samsung as source and Ixtreme 1.6 for Lite-On as target. And after that just flash as you would a Lite-On.
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 16:31    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Try this mate;

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=680261


It looks to me like you just run the procedure as if the drive IS the Samsung one (yes, even though it's spoofed as Lite-On) - just make sure to dump and read the current firmware first so that JF knows it's a spoof and gets the right keycode.


That seems to be the way! Thanks man! Very Happy

Oh, and
Quote:
MAKE SURE YOU HAVE A VIDEO CABLE PLUGGED IN TO THE 360 SO IT DOES NOT TURN OFF


What if i knew that when i was flashing mine!! Fuck, i kept getting pissed off since it turned itself off all them time (i took slow and easy since it was my first time with JF)!! Oh well, now i know Razz


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 21:02    Post subject:
Just an update - i just followed the guide Sabin posted, but i needed the activate.iso. And now it works! Smile Thanks for the help guys!


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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 21:11    Post subject:
Woohoo! Teamwork pays off! Very Happy

Glad you got it working mate, now go burn some Wave3 goodies ^_^
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PostPosted: Thu, 4th Jun 2009 23:34    Post subject:
nice work.

I haven't attempted mine yet due to pub.

Day off tomorrow so will do it tomorrow.


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