[PS3] Leaked SEGA document; mentions PS2 & Dreamcast emu
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Ispep
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Sep 2009 17:28    Post subject: [PS3] Leaked SEGA document; mentions PS2 & Dreamcast emu
I read it on neoGAF; http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=374846

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Hmm, so it's not April 1..

This link is still live as of right now:

ftp://segapr.segaamerica.com/SEGA_Ne...Notes%20BH.doc

Meeting was Aug 5.

The notes; I've bolded some of the more interesting bits:

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SCEA Meeting Aug 5th Notes
Aug 6 2009 – DRAFT FOR COMMENTS

Objectives of Meeting
Dyer agreed to regular quarterly meetings with SOA

Sony PS3
SCEA reiterated plans to sell 13 million PS3s this year
Big announcement back half of year they can’t talk about (potentially price cut of PS3 to reach hardware goals)
SCEA commented on indexing between PS3 and 360 SKUs, should be around 2:1 to garner most favorable treatment.

Motion Controller
Spring 2010 launch (March in JP)
No bundle/pricing details yet, should come Sept 1
Plan on selling 4-5MM units WW
SCEA agreed to provide a list of Sega IP that would work well with the motion controller, Virtua Tennis was an example
Motion Controller support allows easy way to differentiate PS3 SKU
Other differentiation opportunities include PSP/PS3 interoperability – think of features that would make users want to buy both PS3 and PSP SKUs.

Alpha Protocol
Michael Foster, product evaluator, said AP felt barely RPG. Initial level too challenging for players. “Mass Effect felt more RPG.”
Review notes sent to John Merlino a few weeks prior. After meeting Gerald mentioned AP is a high priority for his team.

Planet 51
Sell in of PS3 SKU – SCEA noted that other movie titles on PS3 had underperformed as well (inc. Transformers) this cycle.
Dyer suggests contacting Susan at Walmart and asking what she wants in the pack to sell this SKU (movie tix etc)
Other possibilities are Hybrid movie disc (BD 25 or 50 with Game and Movie on same disc).

Bayonetta
Collectors edition with Bayonetta Action Figure
Novo recommended launching PSN demo around Xmas based off a Jan 5th Ship date with 2-3 week run out to launch.
3-4 weeks is usually ideal demo timing with fresh content every week leading up to launch (trailers, insider video about PG heritage, video blogs).

Vancouver 2010
HOME, Olympic destination would garner a lot of positive attention from SCEA
Should be doing same with Bayonetta, Marvel etc. Easy to launch in all territories.
HOME merchandizing opportunities (clothes etc).

Sonic Racing
Open to DLC to differentiate PS3 SKU – not ratchet and clank but other characters
maybe characters from Rare or Fable universes

Yakuza
Could put Japanese games directly on PSN for download in a special Japanese Import section
(pricing $9.99 to $39.99 for full game).
Might need to localize menus at least with subtitles.
SCEA interested in helping on MKTG side if they can have period of exclusivity.

AVP
Another great HOME candidate
AVP avatars
Hybrid BD disc with movie

Iron Man 2
Great candidate for HOME space – explore Tony Stark’s lab etc.
Should have one for Marvel in general.

PSU2
Could do bundle at GameStop with PSP 30-35K units on UMD, Go, or both.

Valkyria 1937
Could bundle with PSP as well.

Vanquish and Aliens: CM
Opportunity for PS3/PSP interoperability (see Eidos Batman, Army of Two, Assassin’s Creed for good examples).
If we offer that SCEA would be really interested in having us at their booth next E3.

Thor
SCEA would like a look at the code soon.

Sonic Anniversary
Could put out collectors edition with all old sonic games on one BD disc.

“Best of Sonic” for around $99.
SCEA would love PSN exclusive power ups/different game modes (like Castlevania’s flip it over/backwards)

PS2 emulator for PS3 (confidential)
SCEA wants to sell all PS2 titles on PSN (GTA Vice City/Sonic/etc)
For co Marketing money show PS3 controller on TV ads – similar to EA Madden Spots, NCAA, etc…

London Olympics
Perfect opportunity for Motion Controller integration.

DC Digital Titles
If we provide a list of DC titles SCEA will let us know which ones they’re interested in having exclusively.
If we give them a long period of exclusivity they’ll give us more marketing support.

PSP Titles
For SKU differentiation it’s best to offer features that are slightly different from PS3 version.
Titles that are coming up on PSP are Assassin’s Creed II, GTA China Wars, Resident Evil, Little Big Planet – all massive franchises.
SCEA has a specific PSP deck which they can send up with their hardware director for a chat.


Spotted via: http://www.objectif-sega.com/+Exclu+...-news-1637.htm

The mention of 'rare and fable universes' is perplexing unless that was a confused annotation by the sega person!


And Kotaku have two stories covering it;

http://kotaku.com/5364892/leaked-documents-discuss-psn-imports-date-ps3-motion-control
http://kotaku.com/5364828/ps2-dreamcast-games-may-come-to-psn-says-apparently-leaked-doc

Doesn't mean it's true, but interesting... some folks on the neoGAF forum have made a point of mentioning the benefits of DC emulation on the PS3 like so;

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OMG, I just thought of something!

What has 1 analog stick, a D-pad, 4 face buttons, 2 shoulders, and a screen? A DC pad with a vmu...

or a PSP!

They could totally use the PSP as a controller for DC games! It would help emulate the VMU as well. Damn, the possibilities really are endless!


Never having played on a Dreamcast this means nothing to me, but maybe to you Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Sep 2009 18:32    Post subject:
That's it. I'm getting a PS3.
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Sep 2009 18:36    Post subject:
Sounds nice, especially the part about japanese imports on PSN but there's always the issue of credibility. How much can we believe that this document is genuine?
And even then how likely is it that point from that agenda are realised in the end?
While I'm psyched I take it with a grain of salt.
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Sep 2009 19:23    Post subject:
Reklis wrote:
Sounds nice, especially the part about japanese imports on PSN but there's always the issue of credibility. How much can we believe that this document is genuine?
And even then how likely is it that point from that agenda are realised in the end?
While I'm psyched I take it with a grain of salt.

It's genuine., It came right off of one of sega's own servers.
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Sep 2009 19:33    Post subject:
Yeah I know but it still feels a bit off for me, well. I guess we'll see how genuine it really is, right?
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PostPosted: Tue, 22nd Sep 2009 21:55    Post subject:
Whether it actually comes to fruition is the point. They are obviously kicking these ideas around with intent though, clearly.

sabin1981 wrote:
That's it. I'm getting a PS3.

I'll believe it when I see it Wink
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 10:52    Post subject:
If/when this emulation becomes available though, especially for PS2 games, they probably wont just let you pick up a game from your local bargain bin and throw it in the PS3 - instead they'll likely release them exclusively over PSN at something ridiculous like $25 each.
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 12:24    Post subject:
Probably for the best anyway as only retailers benefit from those sales and when or if such a thing were to occur you can bet your bottom dollar prices will get even higher for games like ICO et al... and who knows, they may even adjust them on a game by game basis like God of War, with trophies and such.

But, it's all speculation at this point obviously.


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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 12:25    Post subject:
Seems the story is getting around now, too. It's on a few more Game News-related sites.
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 17:47    Post subject:
twoism wrote:
If/when this emulation becomes available though, especially for PS2 games, they probably wont just let you pick up a game from your local bargain bin and throw it in the PS3 - instead they'll likely release them exclusively over PSN at something ridiculous like $25 each.

Exactly. They have PS2 emulator for PS3, but you can't just play your old PS2 discs on it cause Sony wants to sell these games again, fucking bastards Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 17:49    Post subject:
KrutojPoc wrote:
Sony


All that needs to be said.
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 17:57    Post subject:
I bet Europe wouldn't get any of those features.
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 17:59    Post subject:
They have a huge track record for letting information "leak" out, so none of this surprises me....


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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 19:10    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
That's it. I'm getting a PS3.


there is already PS2 and DC emulation....


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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 19:22    Post subject:
Clcancellation wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
That's it. I'm getting a PS3.


there is already PS2 and DC emulation....


And all of us can run PS2 emulation on their PC with 60 fps!
Oh wait, we can't.
Well, don't know about DC emulation. How hardware intensive is DC emulation?


@dezztroy:
please don't destroy my hopes! Crying or Very sad
I'm still pissed off that we europeans ain't gonna get Demon's Souls which in turn means I gotta import it...
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 19:28    Post subject:
Clcancellation wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
That's it. I'm getting a PS3.


there is already PS2 and DC emulation....


And neither of which are perfect Rolling Eyes PS2 emulation from SONY THEMSELVES, and Dreamcast emulation from SEGA THEMSELVES ... or homebrew, non-perfect, often buggy, emulation?

I know what I'd prefer Wink

(which is actually what annoys me about the homebrew world; Microsoft have a fully working Xbox1 emulator built into the bloody 360 - which proves that a 3.2Ghz TriCore machine, with 512MB RAM and an X19xx derivative is enough for emulating an Xbox with full speed -- so where is the PC version, eh?)
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 20:21    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Clcancellation wrote:
sabin1981 wrote:
That's it. I'm getting a PS3.


there is already PS2 and DC emulation....


And neither of which are perfect Rolling Eyes PS2 emulation from SONY THEMSELVES, and Dreamcast emulation from SEGA THEMSELVES ... or homebrew, non-perfect, often buggy, emulation?

I know what I'd prefer Wink

(which is actually what annoys me about the homebrew world; Microsoft have a fully working Xbox1 emulator built into the bloody 360 - which proves that a 3.2Ghz TriCore machine, with 512MB RAM and an X19xx derivative is enough for emulating an Xbox with full speed -- so where is the PC version, eh?)

thx X-box emulator for the 360 is not "perfect" at all,
most of the entire X-box 1 game library are not supported,only about third.
and there is still some issues in some games,not the mention the emulator is no longer updated.


"Fuck Denuvo"

Your personal opinions != the rest of the forum
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PostPosted: Wed, 23rd Sep 2009 20:52    Post subject:
Stop correcting me, it's fucking annoying and insulting. I never said there was a perfect emulator, so fuck off with that shit. I said a "fully working emulator" - and there is. I didn't say perfect.
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