[PS3] PS3 to outsell 360 & Wii By Cycle End
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 13:17    Post subject: [PS3] PS3 to outsell 360 & Wii By Cycle End
Before people start frothing at the mouth this is a Industry prediction.


Analyst: PS3 to outsell 360 and Wii by cycle end

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The PlayStation 3 will outsell its rivals over its lifetime, becoming the best selling home console of the current generation - according to a new report by the Strategy Analytics Connected Home Devices (SACHD) service.

The prediction is based on the PS3 remaining a commercial platform for five years after the Wii has been replaced. Report author David Mercer predicts a 127 million unit lifetime title for the PS3, compared to 103 million for the Wii.

The global totals for the three consoles currently stand at approximately 68 million for the Wii, 38 million for the 360 and 32.5 million for the PS3.

The report also predicts that worldwide home console sales will drop by 9 per cent in 2010, to a total of 47.5 million; 17.5 million for the Wii, 14.0 million for the PS3, 10.5 million for the 360 and 5.5 for the PlayStation 2.

Writing on his blog, Mercer estimated that the Wii installed userbase will hit 76 million by the end of 2010. "But the signs are that the Wii has peaked in terms of console sales, and its installed base will begin to decline after 2011", he commented.

"These estimates are derived from our core forecast scenario, but we have developed various scenarios for each platform. Uncertainties clearly surround each of the major platforms, particularly relating to the new services and upgrades planned by Sony and Microsoft", added Mercer.

"Natal on the Xbox could be more beneficial to 360 sales than expected, and Sony’s own motion controller, together with its plans to upgrade all PS3s to 3D capability, also represent potential for upside to our core forecasts."


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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 13:20    Post subject:
I put £5 on it never outselling the Wii


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twobells
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 13:28    Post subject:
Horrordee wrote:
I put £5 on it never outselling the Wii


Keep your cash in your pocket but it is surprising especially as the wii sells so well among non gamers. (ie: joe public)


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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 13:29    Post subject:
just wait until they phase out the DVD. Sonys console bluray exclusivity will earn them a lot of money down the line wether its ps3 or ps4.


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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 13:30    Post subject:
I can see the PS3 starting to outsell the 360, that's easy enough to believe - especially as the price keeps dropping - but the Wii? Nah, that damned thing is like a snowball. It just keeps getting bigger the longer it keeps rolling. Already 79 million sold and it looks like it's not slowing down any time soon AND it's still keeping its price too.
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 15:24    Post subject:
Well after the price drop on the PS3 I can see it will sell more and close in on the 360. Problem is that there is not enough exklusive titles just yet. Many who buy a Ps3 nowdays already own a 360 or a Wii.

Also the fight has never really in my eyes been between the PS3, 360 and Wii. Wii has been standing on the side aiming theirself at a different market, while Sony and MS have been battling it out for the so called "hardcore" gamers.

Nintendo has also been very smart with breathing new life in their old products when the time is right. It can be small things like they did with the NDS, but it still boosts the selling. While MS and Sony are going for the motion controllers, I think Nintendo will have something up their sleeves too...something totally different, might not look like much for the "hardcore" gamers, but it will sell and will sell more Wii consoles yet again.

I do think this competition is good for the industry Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 15:37    Post subject:
Cohen wrote:
just wait until they phase out the DVD.

I don't see this happening any time soon, certainly not in lifetime of the PS3. The 360 and Wii's use of DVD doesn't help that phasing out either. Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 16:01    Post subject:
considering the ps3 launched almost a year and a half AFTER the 360 it is not so surprising that they predicted it will be outselling the 360 by the cycles end... for it's blu-ray drive if nothing else.
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 16:50    Post subject:
If Natal and the PS3 wand thingies are not too expensive and the consoles continue to fall in price I can see an upturn in those two respective consoles and a downturn in the Wii's sales. Basically if they can make their consoles more accessible to Joe Public and put out some interesting titles it'll be a very interesting next few years.
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 17:21    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Cohen wrote:
just wait until they phase out the DVD.

I don't see this happening any time soon, certainly not in lifetime of the PS3. The 360 and Wii's use of DVD doesn't help that phasing out either. Smile


given they've had to go back to offering combo packs now (BR + DVD), I too doubt DVD will be gone all that quickly.


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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 18:13    Post subject:
Nothing new is said in the article. You can sum it up with this one line " The prediction is based on the PS3 remaining a commercial platform for five years after the Wii has been replaced. Report author David Mercer predicts a 127 million unit lifetime title for the PS3, compared to 103 million for the Wii"

All i have to say is " No shit Sherlock" The PS3 will be like the PS2, when others have moved on to bigger better things, the PS3 will take market share. I don't know how anyone can think this is a win.

I would rather a upgraded console, since both 360 and PS3 are not to powerful anymore compared to PCs.

That article basically says, the PS3 will remain last until others leave the race. Well it may take second, but it will never outsell the Wii.


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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 18:55    Post subject:
nono, I was talking about WHEN it will happen, cos it eventually will, blu ray will rule and become cheaper and like the VHS DVD will become yesteryears news. When this happens, Sony's patent on blu-ray disk consoles will really drive them ahead of the competition until something better comes out, which I really doubt for a LONG time.. it just simply cant get that much better quality than BR..


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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 19:35    Post subject:
Sony has a patent on BluRay drives in consoles?
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 19:41    Post subject:
Sony created BluRay, but any company can use it if they purchase a license.
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 19:42    Post subject:
not in a console. It's patented to them.


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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 19:42    Post subject:
Prove it.

Show me an article that specifically states only Sony can ever have BR-equipped consoles.
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 20:09    Post subject:
I doubt that they would prevent enyone from using BluRay since they want the format to spread. Even if they tried they would just get their asses sued to hell for monopoly abuse, you are not allowed to create a de-facto standard and only give licenses to companies you like.

The reason why the PS3 is the only console with a BR drive to date is because its price outweights its use for current games.
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 20:47    Post subject:
And it was a big risk from Sony, if the HD-DVD would have won the war it would had shoot the PS3 to dust. At that time it was basiclly a cointoss in who would win. MS went with a standalone HD-DVD while Sony built in their blu-ray in the PS3.

I don't think (I have no proof though) that the BR is patented to Sony's consoles alone, didn't MS say they were concidering building a BR player to the 360 now when the HD-DVD failed?
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 21:04    Post subject:
MS said that it is "not out of question" but now they focus on digital distribution.
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 21:10    Post subject:
are we talking of someone's "menstrual cycle"?


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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 21:29    Post subject:
Ihump4nfos wrote:
are we talking of someone's "menstrual cycle"?

No the cycle of the galactic ring, so we're looking at some 200 million years.
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 22:06    Post subject:
It will never outsell 360 cuz u can flash the 360 and DL games u never will or can do it on PS3.....suckerz
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 22:06    Post subject:
Never say never.
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 22:07    Post subject:
Um ,doesn't the BDA (Blu-ray Diask Association) hold the patents for blu-ray, and controls the distribution rights/royalties etc? Sony is merely a member of the BDA, as well as many other hardware manufacturers.


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@Bigperm

To my knowledge, Sony is one of the nine manufacturers that CREATE the BDA Wink
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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 22:15    Post subject:
I don't care about PS3 outselling anything. The more important issue is when it'll finally be cracked. Right now it's kind of useless since you cannot download the games.


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PostPosted: Tue, 9th Mar 2010 22:20    Post subject:
Might be a totally new concept for you but there's something called:
Buying games.
That's what people normally do when they think a game is really reall good.
Might want to do some research on that Wink
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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Mar 2010 19:15    Post subject:
I don't think the PS3 is even worth cracking at the moment with the current cost of PC blu-ray burners and blank media. How much is a blank bluray nowadays £5/6-7€ still?. My hunch is that it will be cracked one day but only when blu-ray is more commonplace and the cost of it's blank media and burners come down in price. The PS3 hasn't many exclusives anyway. Would make little sense in burning off a FFXIII onto a blu-ray anyway when you could just burn it off onto a 50 pence verb for a 360. If one day they managed to open up the PS3 like they did with the PSP it would truly be a fantastic console though.
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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Mar 2010 19:20    Post subject:
xyzg wrote:
I don't think the PS3 is even worth cracking at the moment with the current cost of PC blu-ray burners and blank media. How much is a blank bluray nowadays £5/6-7€ still?. My hunch is that it will be cracked one day but only when blu-ray is more commonplace and the cost of it's blank media and burners come down in price. The PS3 hasn't many exclusives anyway. Would make little sense in burning off a FFXIII onto a blu-ray anyway when you could just burn it off onto a 50 pence verb for a 360. If one day they managed to open up the PS3 like they did with the PSP it would truly be a fantastic console though.


When I bought my first DVD burner back in the first days of the original xbox crack it cost me over 400 euros and plenty of people were buying them then. I suppose the difference is that the discs themselves didn't cost an arm and a leg like blank blurays.

And who knows, maybe if enough people started buying them it would bring the prices down.


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PostPosted: Wed, 10th Mar 2010 19:21    Post subject:
Blueray will never rule.. The death of the DVD will be caused by streaming media.
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