Why do all rpg's have to be elves warlocks etc?
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db2431




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Oct 2009 21:42    Post subject: Why do all rpg's have to be elves warlocks etc?
When will someone release an rpg based in modern day where your a hitman or some such, anyone else hate the stupid fantasy rpg setting?
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Oct 2009 21:44    Post subject:
No.

I'm sure there is a game like that though.
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dsergei




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Oct 2009 21:45    Post subject:
Alpha Protocol gonna be like that. I think you play as a spy or smth.
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Oct 2009 21:45    Post subject: Re: Why do all rpg's have to be elves warlocks etc?
db2431 wrote:
When will someone release an rpg based in modern day where your a hitman or some such, anyone else hate the stupid fantasy rpg setting?

Plenty of RPGs out there that aren't fantasy setting, stop living under a rock.


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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Oct 2009 21:46    Post subject:
Well, APB looks cool, but it doesn't look much of an RPG per-se.
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Oct 2009 21:46    Post subject:
While it's an action-RPG, and it has unfortunately been delayed, Alpha Protocol is a modern-day game where you play as a spy. But yep, I'm definetely with you there. We need more varied settings in RPGs.

I'm very tired of the fantasy genre myself and is one of many reasons why I fail to muster much excitement for Dragon Age.
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Oct 2009 21:46    Post subject:
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friketje




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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Oct 2009 21:47    Post subject:
fallout, vampire bloodlines Rolling Eyes the new borderlands. dont know more A titles though.
Think that magic just works better in a fantasy setting, and magic is a vital part of rpg's.
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Oct 2009 21:48    Post subject:
Mass Effect? SW:KoTOR 1/2? etc etc
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Oct 2009 21:50    Post subject:
Smokeythedemon wrote:
Mass Effect? SW:KoTOR 1/2? etc etc

Both are pretty much fantasy. Perhaps not in the same fantasy category, but fantasy nonetheless. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Oct 2009 21:52    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Smokeythedemon wrote:
Mass Effect? SW:KoTOR 1/2? etc etc

Both are pretty much fantasy. Perhaps not in the same fantasy category, but fantasy nonetheless. Smile


Then youre RPG is the sims, modern time, realistic setting. (almost) no monsters. Fits you're needs.
Games are not realistic, period.
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Oct 2009 21:53    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Smokeythedemon wrote:
Mass Effect? SW:KoTOR 1/2? etc etc

Both are pretty much fantasy. Perhaps not in the same fantasy category, but fantasy nonetheless. Smile


I'd call them Sci-Fi, not really fantasy. Fantasy games usually have dragons and shit in them... o.O
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Oct 2009 21:53    Post subject:
well, i d rather label it sci-fi. But sci-fi and fantasy have always been pretty close imho, because both genres need a certain mind-set to enjoy them.
see for example: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Magazine_of_Fantasy_&_Science_Fiction
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Oct 2009 22:02    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Smokeythedemon wrote:
Mass Effect? SW:KoTOR 1/2? etc etc

Both are pretty much fantasy. Perhaps not in the same fantasy category, but fantasy nonetheless. Smile


In the thread, the OP was talking about "elves and warlocks," making it sound like he was referring to high fantasy, specifically.
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Oct 2009 22:03    Post subject:
...and neither is modern day. Razz

If go further down the route and wander off to JRPG, Square used to put out those Parasite Eve games. Persona I guess also would count.

Traditionall western RPG´s are harder to find.

I´m up for the idea though. Could be cool.
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Oct 2009 22:23    Post subject:
If anything the exact opposite is prevalent, too many RPG's that are not in a medieval setting.. Futuristic or otherwise..

Personally I love the setting of games like Oblivion,Gothic,Risen. There are hundreds of games that suit the FPS crowd, which, by your post you seem to be a lover of..
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Oct 2009 22:23    Post subject:
Prefetian wrote:
iNatan wrote:
Smokeythedemon wrote:
Mass Effect? SW:KoTOR 1/2? etc etc

Both are pretty much fantasy. Perhaps not in the same fantasy category, but fantasy nonetheless. Smile


I'd call them Sci-Fi, not really fantasy. Fantasy games usually have dragons and shit in them... o.O
something can play in the middle ages, have dragons, and yet be perfect and most of all hard sci-fi. it's all about the themes and how things are explained.
starships and pew pew lazors don't make something science fiction, just like dragons and elves don't make fantasy.
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Oct 2009 22:34    Post subject:
Well, actually dragons and elves (or other mythical creatures and species) do make it fantasy, but perhaps a different fantasy category.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fantasy_subgenres

Both Mass Effect and KOTOR would fall into the science fantasy category. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Oct 2009 22:50    Post subject:
I don't really mind the setting, but I am getting tired of the general lore. Elves in most RPG's are basically the same, just like dwarves, ogres, gnomes and all the others. The relations between the factions are always the same (dwarves vs. elves etc), the dragons are always ancient and wise. I can go on and on, but I made my point. Someone should use the old trusted setting, but pour some creativity in it.
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PostPosted: Mon, 12th Oct 2009 22:51    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Well, actually dragons and elves (or other mythical creatures and species) do make it fantasy, but perhaps a different fantasy category.
they are only fantasy as long as they are not explained scientifically.
a gigantic dragon that flies and breaths fire because it's magical is fantasy, a gigantic dragon that flies because it lives on a world with a really dense atmosphere and breaths fire as the result of some explained combustion process taking place in its organs is sci-fi.

victorian steampunk based on the empire's supremacy due to cabbage finishing his analytical engine and a random stroke of luck that ensured that its potential would be properly recognized is sci-fi alternate history, put in mages and you make it fantasy.

nanintes in the diamond age are, for the most part, sci-fi, while most other nanites in fiction tend to be fantasy.

it's all about how much effort you put into explaining how and why things work. the blurry fun starts when you make magic into science, and mages into scientists, and can also deliver the most interesting results setting wise.
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Oct 2009 00:27    Post subject:
vampire bloodlines is modern day if u ignore the whole vampire thing , just think of them as goths and junkies or just really deformed people Cool Face
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epife




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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Oct 2009 07:25    Post subject:
You really have to differ between scifi and fantasy. One of the reasons the SyFy channel pisses me off is all the shitty fantasy shit they show. I wouldn't mind if it was decent, but for god's sake there's more shitty fantasy on that channel than there is actual science fiction.
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Oct 2009 12:38    Post subject:
Syence fyction you mean?
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PostPosted: Tue, 13th Oct 2009 15:41    Post subject: Re: Why do all rpg's have to be elves warlocks etc?
db2431 wrote:
When will someone release an rpg based in modern day where your a hitman or some such, anyone else hate the stupid fantasy rpg setting?


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