EA cancel 12 upcoming games.
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Slizza




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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 08:17    Post subject: EA cancel 12 upcoming games.
Not sure what has been hit but no doubt us PC gamers are worst hit.
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http://www.bit-tech.net/news/gaming/2009/11/10/ea-cancels-12-games-lays-off-1500-jobs/1
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Electronic Arts has announced plans to make more than 1500 staff redundant by April 2010, as well as the cancellation of at least 12 games that are currently in development. At the same time, the publisher has just bought out PlayFish, developer of popular social networking games for around $300 million USD, according to Gamasutra.

EA hopes to save $100 million USD annually as a result of the lay-offs and cancellations, with the redundancies spread across all devisions. 900 developers, 500 publishing staff and 100 corporate suits are set to go, according to reports.

The studios which will be most heavily affected are EA Redwood, Tiburon, Mythic and EA Black Box.

The news follows on from EA's recently published financial reports, which revealed a net loss of $391 million across the July - September period, an increase of 26 percent compared to the same period in 2008.

"Laying off employees and closing facilities is never pleasant," said EA Chief John Riccitiello. "We have a lot of compassion for those impacted but these cuts are essential for transforming our company.[/i]"

"Electronic Arts has a core slate of games label and sports franchises that we will iterate on a either annual or bi-annual basis. And I think you know what those major titles are - all of them are selling or have sold in their most recent edition 2 million units or more," he continued.

"After that, we’ve got The Sims and Hasbro, and frankly anything that doesn’t measure up to looking like it can pencil out to be in very high profit contributor and high unit seller got cut from our title slate from this point going forward."


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 08:21    Post subject:
I know that EA hating bandwagon will have a party with this news but this is actually pretty bad. EA was getting increasingly better for PC gaming last 2 years or so, when other companies went console only EA still brought most of major titles to PC.

Would be nice to know how many of the canceled games were new innovative IPs and how many were sequels.


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 08:23    Post subject:
sucks to be Mythic "we let EA purchase us so we could get more moneyhz for WAR, oops we're fired ;(/"


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 08:34    Post subject:
anyone have actual info about the studios closed? since its not just all around reduction of workforce looking at cancellation of games
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 08:35    Post subject:
Glottis wrote:
I know that EA hating bandwagon will have a party with this news but this is actually pretty bad. EA was getting increasingly better for PC gaming last 2 years or so, when other companies went console only EA still brought most of major titles to PC.

Would be nice to know how many of the canceled games were new innovative IPs and how many were sequels.
I would guess most all were new stuff and that possibly only a couple sequels to games that did not generate huge revenue.

Sounds like they don't have much choice in needing to do this though.
It's a business at the end of the day.


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 08:51    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 09:11    Post subject:
@ Glottis: Do you mean EA as a developer or publisher?Because there is a huge difference in EA's policy when their team studios make games for pc.
Games rumoured to be cancelled so far are:
- Mirror's Edge 2
- Madden Series
- Fifa Series for pc

For fifa series there is disappointment in the xbox creation team because the sales were below their expectations, piracy in x360 was bigger this year (the latest ban wave tells it all) so the future of the series is in in doubt.


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 09:13    Post subject:
As long as EA's own IP continues, I'll be happy. Dead Space is a great game and one deserving of a franchise, IMO.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 09:13    Post subject:
lhzr wrote:
holy shit, that's a huge number of people to lay off Sad


yup - they simply want more money Smile

less advertising in commercials - making a good games that will make good opinions will handle it. Good finished game will sell itself
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 09:46    Post subject:
damador. wrote:
lhzr wrote:
holy shit, that's a huge number of people to lay off Sad


yup - they simply want more money Smile

less advertising in commercials - making a good games that will make good opinions will handle it. Good finished game will sell itself

true, but not for EA.

why did they lay off people? pressure form stockholders. the same pressure that is responsible for huge marketing campaigns, enforcing draconic copy protections, DLC bullshit and - last but not least - playing it "safe" by focusing on shitty money makers like the sims.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 09:47    Post subject:
im so confused.. i thought selling games = money ...
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 09:51    Post subject:
I only care about PC versions of Dead Space 2 & Mirror's Edge 2. I hope these two games won't be affected.


And then like you peoples were all like, "YOU IS TROLLIN!" and I was like "I AM NOT TROLLING!! I AM guess_who_kthxbai YOU SEE! Mm!"

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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 09:51    Post subject:
I thought madden and fifa were huge sellers. Dont know about madden for PC but Fifa has a pretty decent community and completely raped PES in sales.


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 09:58    Post subject:
zipfero wrote:
I thought madden and fifa were huge sellers. Dont know about madden for PC but Fifa has a pretty decent community and completely raped PES in sales.

that's what i'm wondering about too. huge target audience as well as (comparatively) low development costs = cash cow, with or without piracy
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 10:00    Post subject:
zipfero wrote:
I thought madden and fifa were huge sellers. Dont know about madden for PC but Fifa has a pretty decent community and completely raped PES in sales.


Wrong.Last Madden for pc was 08!Series will be cancelled on console.EA says that the cost is huge for them in Madden.Game sells well for x360 but EA confirms loss.Fans of the game blame EA that game's on stall many years with no major improvements.
Fifa for pc is a joke and pc gamers buy PES.Fifa has a pretty decent community?Yes.Just visit the fifa 10 pc forum..Everyday there are more than 50 bans in the forum Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 10:04    Post subject:
Interesting.

Hoping dead space isn't affected.


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 10:42    Post subject:
black box did the pre-shift need for speed games and was working on nfs: world online
scheduled for release on fall 2010
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 11:00    Post subject:
black box were meant to be doing skate 3, no? shiyat!!


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 12:37    Post subject:
I really dont see how to improve these sport games anymore so that they would offer something new every year. Minor tweaks for last yeasr is what I have seen,


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 12:40    Post subject:
-=Cartoon=- wrote:
im so confused.. i thought selling games = money ...


That's true but:
Selling games + laying off staff = more money
Isn't capitalism a good thing? :/
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 12:48    Post subject:
difm wrote:
I really dont see how to improve these sport games anymore so that they would offer something new every year. Minor tweaks for last yeasr is what I have seen,


It's the whole formulaic nonsense that ruined the soul in game development, bleeding into uninspired annual sequels.


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 12:51    Post subject:
Reklis wrote:
-=Cartoon=- wrote:
im so confused.. i thought selling games = money ...

Isn't capitalism a good thing? :/


Considering it has generated more wealth and prosperity than any other system in the world. . . yes it is.
Is it perfect? No it is not.
Can it be abused? Yes it can.


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 13:11    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
difm wrote:
I really dont see how to improve these sport games anymore so that they would offer something new every year. Minor tweaks for last yeasr is what I have seen,


It's the whole formulaic nonsense that ruined the soul in game development, bleeding into uninspired annual sequels.


I agree. i would rather see more spread out releases with bigger changes/improvements if possible.


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 13:25    Post subject:
With the recent change in free unlimited Tier 1 trial accounts for warhammer online, I see that money grinding dog being the first main death of a game in that list of devs...

they keep screaming on news pages that "we are here to stay", "we support UO and so forth for years and still do", "we are staying", "yes we are staying were not going nowhere"...

see the pattern? to me seems like pure worried people having to keep the cash rolling in to the bitter end.. Also all the talk about the hack tools and how its being monitored by "stealth" dev players .. lmfao sureeee, its pretty rife on the news pages of the game of late. If you got people floating in the air shooting at you day in day out and nothing changes in 2mths about it then there are serios client side issues...

With that recent announcing, it does not paint a pretty picture for WAR..

Gamesworkshop are going to be fuming...
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 13:56    Post subject:
zipfero wrote:
I thought madden and fifa were huge sellers. Dont know about madden for PC but Fifa has a pretty decent community and completely raped PES in sales.

They havnt made madden for PC sinde madden 08


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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 14:01    Post subject:
there is no way in hell that the console version of fifa is in doubt as stated above, it's still one of their best selling games + probably the most watched sport in the world - and we are going to have only 1 game left in the end?

surely not. they know what they are doing. they know they are on the right way. and they will keep on producing the console versions.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 14:06    Post subject:
bushwacka wrote:
zipfero wrote:
I thought madden and fifa were huge sellers. Dont know about madden for PC but Fifa has a pretty decent community and completely raped PES in sales.

that's what i'm wondering about too. huge target audience as well as (comparatively) low development costs = cash cow, with or without piracy


They payed huge ammounts of money for exclusive nfl lincence, and they'll loose it soon, so maybe that means they are pulling out of that front altogether.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 14:27    Post subject:
fawe4 wrote:
bushwacka wrote:
zipfero wrote:
I thought madden and fifa were huge sellers. Dont know about madden for PC but Fifa has a pretty decent community and completely raped PES in sales.

that's what i'm wondering about too. huge target audience as well as (comparatively) low development costs = cash cow, with or without piracy


They payed huge ammounts of money for exclusive nfl lincence, and they'll loose it soon, so maybe that means they are pulling out of that front altogether.

yup the those licenses aren't exactly cheap, but if you factor in the low development effort (just look at those miniscule changes from year to year) it's still a good deal.
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PostPosted: Thu, 12th Nov 2009 14:27    Post subject:
OPM wrote:
there is no way in hell that the console version of fifa is in doubt as stated above, it's still one of their best selling games + probably the most watched sport in the world - and we are going to have only 1 game left in the end?

surely not. they know what they are doing. they know they are on the right way. and they will keep on producing the console versions.


You make the common mistake as eveyone else.This is the simple wrong approach: Sales=Profit.You forget all these:
Licenses,staff costs, commercials, legal and i can go on and on for one page.
This year's Fifa on x360 was pirated by many console gamers.Numbers show that piracy on x360 has increased significally this year.5% of the consoles were banned in the last wave.It may seem a low percentage but it's not.
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