I'm going to replace my case so that I can purchase an aftermarket cpu cooler and power supply currently have a Raidmax case and stock cooling with a 650 watt Seasonic power supply. I already purchased WD7501AALS 750GB hard drive which is going to replace my 80GB for Windows 7 64-bit.
Basically looking for a full tower with a sleek design and accessibility. Like hard drive mounts that are sideways, can't remember where I saw that. Been looking at the Antec cases and they seem well enough for airflow but from reviews not really all that excited about the accessibility.
If you have any suggestions please post, also are modular power supplies worth it? I think it would keep the clutter to a minimum but I'm not sure if there are any known glitches or cons to going modular.
Of course my system specs are below, thanks!
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Well I have an antec P182, which I like a lot. Its a mid-cabinet, but I think that it could take 5-6 HDDS plus 3 5½ drives(DVD, bluray etc). also all the power cables are places behind the motherboard in a seperate room so it doesn't clutter up and hinders airflow.
Hardware: Ryzen 3700x, B450 MSI Gaming Pro carbon AC, GTX1080, 32 GB 3200 Mhz cas 14, 256 EVO SSD, 1 TB EVO SSD and 4 TB HDD.
Console: xbox, wii and xbox 360
You will be paying a bit more than you would a case....a lot more actually, but the built quality is well worth it, my current case i beat the hell out of in a fit of rage, knuckles cut up and bruised but not a blemish on the case. The whole design jst completey rocks, especially how they isolate the PSU and HD's from the rest of your case to keep heat un-needed heat away from your CPU and GFX card.
Well thanks a lot for the case recommendations, it looks kick ass and Rodney Reynolds is hilarious they way he over pronounces his words haha.
I would definitely invest in a $300 case if I knew for a fact it would last forever and would be large enough for an aftermarket CPU cooler. I love the hard drive brackets 3 in one and 2 in another makes 5 and that's plenty. Also the removable motherboard tray :O no way!
Because I want to get an aftermarket CPU cooler I thought for sure I'd have to get a Full tower and not a mid-tower or else there wouldn't be any room. So will it fit?
I'm liking this case here does anyone own this case?
yes those are wheels and believe me, these cases lian li make ARE NOT LIGHT! They don't use sheet alunimum like antec and thermaltake and shit do. It's fucking THICK.
That particular case is nice, and isn't too much different than mine but word of advice, the whole point of your HD's being mounted horizontally is so the fan can blow above and below them, if you use the 2 HD mount that mounted vertically, it's going to be like a wall stopping the air flow, which is something you'd think Lian Li of all companies would have taken into consideration.
That case design is pretty much what made lian li as popular as they are now. Regardless of it being a mid tower, don't believe people whining abou tspace being an issue. Mine mid tower and has PLENTY of room. I'll post pics of it in a minute
As for it lasting, I bought this case 4 years ago, has been through 3 computer builds, and about to be 4, and still not a blemish on the case, and those same fans are still working as good as they did 4 years ago.
Spykes the link you quoted me on is not the case with wheels its the cheaper one which was $212 and I was just at my fathers showing him the case and found it for $200. The case your talking about is $255+ a little too steep for me.
I can justify spending $200 on a case before shipping fees tho. Also the case above "Lian Li PC-A10" is a mid tower case and I'm not sure if a after market CPU cooler would fit in there with that patented exhaust fan which is kind of right in front of the motherboard area. If I remove it then there would probably be a hole in the back of the case something I'm trying not to do this time around.
At the moment my Raidmax case is missing 2 5.12" bay covers and a slew of those metal expansion bay covers which I'm sure doesn't help with the air flow but actually promotes dust entering the case. Plus I smoke around my computer and I am trying to quit recently started using Snuss which pretty much curbs my craving for a cig but it's definitely not something I want to get addicted to.
So if this case is not going to be big enough for an aftermarket CPU cooler then I'm probably going to look for a full tower case instead. Also side intake fans are nice something that got my mind going a bit about this "Lian Li PC-A10" but I guess the compartment design makes up for that ten fold at least you'd hope so.
An aftermarket cooler will be just fine. Side case fans are useless and in most cases when doing the push pull effect of fans, a side fan will mess that flow up.
That patended fan, if yo look at it from the side and then look at the back of the case, that's where the "grill" on the back is for. It's actually a very hand feature, I've got something like that on my case.
That's my mid-tower, and that video card is an ATI 5850, I modified my HD racks a tid bit so I could route all the HD cables n shit on the back side of the case so I could keep most of everything hidden, theres a lot more room where that PSU is, my PC power n cooling just happens to have long as fuck cables.
The fan to the left of the HD's pulls air in to blow across my HD's, it's got a filter attached to it on the other side to catch dust before it gets in my computer and doesn't restrict the flow the least bit and catches a lot of shit.
Yeah I can surely tell its 3-4 years old you have a dust film you can clearly see you need some canned air dude. You know those case fans how fine are the filters? I wonder if the $200 "Lian Li PC-A10" case has those same filters if at all since it is cheaper and I can't find any good pictures of the case from multiple angles. I also want to replace my power supply at the same time before it dies or fucks up my motherboard. The fan for the PSU is always constantly clicking against the metal gaurd grate and I've had to bend the grate out of the fans way several times and it always comes back so yeah.
Also that case has wheels does it roll around with ease or is it just for looks or do they actually have brakes? A case with wheels would be dangerous for my desk...
I have canned air, it's just been too cold to take my shit ouside and air it down.
If your in the states, look into PC Power & Cooling, you won't find a better PSU from ANYONE, a lot of those psu's with the bottom intake fan aren't really that good due to them having to use smaller components and crams too much shit into the same sized box.
The wheels actually work and they work amazingly well, they also come with rubber rings you can put around them to give them better traction or to not scratch shit up, make moving it around a lot eaiser, and yes, they have brakes that work very well, my case is currently sitting on my desk and doesn't roll anywhere, especially due to the added weight of the thick alunimum they use.
If however you don't like the wheels, you can take em off, I haven't seen any of the newer ones so I can't vouch for them being removable but I Lian Li isn't one to degress features.
Yeah I'm in the states, so just google 'pc power & cooling' and I find tigerdirect.com and pcpower.com which I think is what your talking about. I don't see anything different with these power supplies, what are you referring to here?
They're just high quality PSU's mate, but there's several other brands that'll do the trick just as well as PCPC. The one thing that sets them apart is their warranty, they have anywhere from 5-10 years warranty on all of their units
Honestly though, they're not "better" than all the other brands, but they are one of the most dependable. Just go by a PSU's efficiency rating and by its options (warranty, modularity) at first, then look up some reviews on it just like with other hardware!
They're just high quality PSU's mate, but there's several other brands that'll do the trick just as well as PCPC. The one thing that sets them apart is their warranty, they have anywhere from 5-10 years warranty on all of their units
Honestly though, they're not "better" than all the other brands, but they are one of the most dependable. Just go by a PSU's efficiency rating and by its options (warranty, modularity) at first, then look up some reviews on it just like with other hardware!
and the main thing that sets them apart is every...single..PSU company out there does the same scamming bullshit.
Buy your PSU, look at the ratings chart, look for your wattage. That 600Watt psu your wanting to buy, it's being advertised as it's peak wattage....600watts that you will never see unless your computer is shut off.
Every PC&C is rated after it's under a work load. Modular PSU's have also been proven to be not as the holy grail as people have made them to be due to the extra resistance they extra connections can cause as well as the risk of breaking the extra connections if your continuously changing shit around.
Ci2e wrote:
Yeah I'm in the states, so just google 'pc power & cooling' and I find tigerdirect.com and pcpower.com which I think is what your talking about. I don't see anything different with these power supplies, what are you referring to here?
order em from newegg
Mine is from like, 2004, has been through 3 computer builds and has yet to have a hiccup on me.
and the main thing that sets them apart is every...single..PSU company out there does the same scamming bullshit.
Buy your PSU, look at the ratings chart, look for your wattage. That 600Watt psu your wanting to buy, it's being advertised as it's peak wattage....600watts that you will never see unless your computer is shut off.
And that's wrong information you have there. That's what the whole efficiency rating is about, testing under different loads; PCPC's units do not deliver the full wattage either, no PSU does (which is impossible due to the way electronics work). They can get very close however, and this is where the efficiency rating comes in.
Don't act as if PCPC are magicians, their PSU's are good, but they don't deliver 100% either. Check out this url for an indication. Not all PSU's ever made are on there, but a lot are. You want a PSU with 80+ certification at minimum, bronze is better and will cost little more. Silver is slightly more expensive, but they are top notch units. Gold obviously are the best, but only very few units get that certification.
With a Noctua NH-U12P HSF there is still room to fit the patented extraction fan on the Lian Li PC-A10. If you opt to remove that, it doesn't leave a gaping hole, its a grilled aluminium plate.
With a Noctua NH-U12P HSF there is still room to fit the patented extraction fan on the Lian Li PC-A10. If you opt to remove that, it doesn't leave a gaping hole, its a grilled aluminium plate.
Model PC-A10A / PC-A10B
Case Type Super Mid Tower
Dimensions 215mm x 535mm x 522mm ( W, H, D)
Front bezel Material Aluminum
Color Silver / Black
Side Panel Plain
Body Material Aluminum
Net Weight 10.5kg / 12.5kg
5.25" drive bay (External) 7
3.5" drive bay (External) 1 ( using 1 x 5.25
3.5" drive bay (Internal) 5
Expansion Slot 7
Motherboard ATX, M-ATX
System Fan (Front) 1 x 12cm Ball-bearing Fan
System Fan (Top) 1 x 12cm Ball-bearing Fan
System Fan (Rear) 2 x 12cm Ball-bearing Fan
I/O Ports USB 2.0 x 2, IEEE1394 x 1, HD+AC97 Audio
Model PC-A71F
Case Type Full Tower Chassis
Dimensions 220mm x 590mm x 615mm ( W, H, D)
Front bezel Material Aluminum
Color Black
Side Panel Aluminum
Body Material Aluminum
Net Weight 9.03kg
5.25" drive bay (External) 5
3.5" drive bay (External) 1(Use one 5.25
3.5" drive bay (Internal) 10
Expansion Slot 7
Motherboard E-ATX / ATX / M-ATX
System Fan (Front) 140mm Fan x 2 (1000RPM)
System Fan (Top)
System Fan (Rear) 120mm Fan x 2 (1500RPM)
I/O Ports USB2.0 x 4 / IEEE1394 x 1 / E-SATA x 1 / HD+AC97 Audio
Model TYR PC-X2000
Case Type Super Full Tower Chassis
Dimensions 230 x 430 x 680 ( W, D, H)
Front bezel Material Aluminum
Color Black
Side Panel Aluminum
Body Material Aluminum
Net Weight
5.25" drive bay (External) 2
3.5" drive bay (External) 1
3.5" drive bay (Internal) 6 ( SATA Hot Swapable)
Expansion Slot 8
Motherboard EATX, CEB, ATX, M-ATX
System Fan (Front) 3 x 140mm Ball Bearing Fan ( 800-980-1200RPM, factory set to mid speed)
System Fan (Top)
System Fan (Rear) 1 x 140mm Ball Bearing Fan( 800-980-1200RPM, factory set to mid speed); 2 x 80mm Ball Bear Fan ( 1500 RPM)
I/O Ports USB 2.0 x 2, IEEE 1394 x 1, E-SATA x 1, HD+AC97 Audio
I recently modded my desk thanks to my father which I am having trouble parting with and currently the shelf space is roughly: Length 18⅝" Width 12¾" Height 23⅞"
man, sexy looking but god forbid you scratch some of that metal lol. Wonder if it's tin metal like everyone else, honestly the only reason I haven't gotten anything but Lian Li is cause the alunimum they use is thick as fuck.
Yeah looks nice but the hard drive bays are facing the motherboard which constricts space when adding a video card. Have I mentioned the new ATI card is a foot long? If NVIDIA doesn't have anything to compete then I may just be making the switch, it looks well worth it.
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