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 Posted: Sat, 12th Sep 2009 01:08 Post subject: Bethesda Sues Interplay Over Use Of Fallout License |
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Fallout rights holder Bethesda Softworks has made good on its threat to sue developer Interplay for allegedly failing to hold up its end of agreements inked in April 2007.
Bethesda filed a complaint -- obtained by Gamasutra -- in the U.S. District Court of Maryland on September 9 requesting a preliminary and permanent injunction against Interplay's manufacture, sale, and distribution of Fallout Trilogy, which includes the classic PC games Fallout, Fallout 2 and Fallout Tactics.
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Fuck bethesda and all their shitty fuckin games.
The plaintiff said because of the alleged trademark infringement, consumers have become confused between the makers of the pre-existing Fallout games and Bethesda's more recent Fallout 3 -- a situation that Bethesda wanted to avoid.
what? are you fucking serious? Anyone could smell a bethesda game miles away and is in no way even close to being as good as the originals. Talk about cocky, oh we have a fallou game! WE ROCK...fuck you.
I can only hope these cocksuckers lose their jobs and familes.
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Epsilon
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Sep 2009 01:12 Post subject: |
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Right, I lost the last amount of respect I had for them.
This is an acknowledgement that what they make will never be as good as the original Fallout titles, and by doing this and wanting to do what they didn't get the possibility to do; silently erasing the heritage and canon and making Fallout 3 and upwards to be official canon.
Obviously this business practice can be expected from a company who wants to maximize their earnings, but nevertheless I won't be buying another Bethesda game, including their holding company Zenimax and it's recent acquisition ID Software.
A shame to be sure, but there will be other devs, and other titles to enjoy.
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Ankh
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Sep 2009 01:28 Post subject: |
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| Anthirs wrote: | Oh the drama!  |
well when all you have for games is that made by EA, Ubisoft and whatever shitty companies, releasing kiddy dumbed down bullshit, I'll laugh when your pissed.
The way this is going, your not going to be seeing much for gaming studios that are based on gaming experience but soley for money and nothing else.
We lost EA years ago, Red Storm went bye bye, Ubisoft went corrupt, Irrational Games sold out to 2K for money, Besthesda now, who else am I missing |
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Sep 2009 01:36 Post subject: |
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Beth gave them over 2 years to do something, anything. And they couldn't. Besides, other than Chris it's not even close to the same people from 10 years ago.
Beth is well within their rights to sue. Interplay fucked up here.
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Sep 2009 01:38 Post subject: |
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I just bought more interplay games from gog.com as my own personal slap to bethesda's face
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Sep 2009 01:49 Post subject: |
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Lies, all lies! It'll be the game of the decade!
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Sep 2009 01:52 Post subject: |
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| Anthirs wrote: | | inz wrote: | Well I wasn't expecting anything from this zombie-Interplay anyway (secretly hoping, but...).
Hopefully inXile will hire Chris Taylor to be part of their Wasteland 2 team.  |
...but having original crew from games doesnt really mean shite. Just look at inXiles bards tale. I played bards tale for years (and still do from time to time) but the 2004 version was horrible.... |
same goes for c&c, the origianls I enjoyed quite a bit, then EA took a couple from westwood fired the rest and now the games suck |
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Sep 2009 01:55 Post subject: |
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I don't have any sympathy for Interplay, especially as they have breached a (contractual?) agreement with Bethesda, but I still echo Epsilons sentiment.
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Sep 2009 01:57 Post subject: |
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There is a chance that the old masterminds have fallen behind when it comes to gaming. Perhaps they still belive that its good enough to make a 2d rpg with bad graphics and very little options? I admit that these games were and still are great fun....but how many people would buy them? Is there a market beyond the few hardcore fans still left out there?
Imo them old game Gods were true masters back then....but I dont really think they've got what it takes anymore (but I could be wrong ofc).
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Sep 2009 02:03 Post subject: |
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| Anthirs wrote: | There is a chance that the old masterminds have fallen behind when it comes to gaming. Perhaps they still belive that its good enough to make a 2d rpg with bad graphics and very little options? I admit that these games were and still are great fun....but how many people would buy them? Is there a market beyond the few hardcore fans still left out there?
Imo them old game Gods were true masters back then....but I dont really think they've got what it takes anymore (but I could be wrong ofc). |
CDprojekt is making quite a lot of money of gog.com, people said it wouldn't take off cause their old games but guess what, it's getting huge |
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Sep 2009 02:08 Post subject: |
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| SpykeZ wrote: | | Anthirs wrote: | There is a chance that the old masterminds have fallen behind when it comes to gaming. Perhaps they still belive that its good enough to make a 2d rpg with bad graphics and very little options? I admit that these games were and still are great fun....but how many people would buy them? Is there a market beyond the few hardcore fans still left out there?
Imo them old game Gods were true masters back then....but I dont really think they've got what it takes anymore (but I could be wrong ofc). |
CDprojekt is making quite a lot of money of gog.com, people said it wouldn't take off cause their old games but guess what, it's getting huge |
Its a big difference between retro games being bought .... and NEW games being made by old farts who made them old retro games.
I seriously doubt that games like fallout 1 would have sold many copies if it was made today.
Fallout 1 and 2 are true classics... but imagine if they werent made 10-20 years ago, but more like 2008-2009 using the same game mechanics and graphics.
It would have sold very few copies...if any at all.
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Sep 2009 02:10 Post subject: |
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Don't get me wrong - im a hardcore retro gamer. I still buy amiga/c64 software/hardware when ever I can afford and I also buy loads and loads of old pc games...
...but thats cos of nostalgica.
shitloads of new stuff in my pc. Cant keep track of it all.
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Sep 2009 02:11 Post subject: |
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| Anthirs wrote: | | SpykeZ wrote: | | Anthirs wrote: | There is a chance that the old masterminds have fallen behind when it comes to gaming. Perhaps they still belive that its good enough to make a 2d rpg with bad graphics and very little options? I admit that these games were and still are great fun....but how many people would buy them? Is there a market beyond the few hardcore fans still left out there?
Imo them old game Gods were true masters back then....but I dont really think they've got what it takes anymore (but I could be wrong ofc). |
CDprojekt is making quite a lot of money of gog.com, people said it wouldn't take off cause their old games but guess what, it's getting huge |
Its a big difference between retro games being bought .... and NEW games being made by old farts who made them old retro games.
I seriously doubt that games like fallout 1 would have sold many copies if it was made today.
Fallout 1 and 2 are true classics... but imagine if they werent made 10-20 years ago, but more like 2008-2009 using the same game mechanics and graphics.
It would have sold very few copies...if any at all. |
ooooooooooo I mistook what ya meant, got what ya meant now |
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Sep 2009 06:49 Post subject: |
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Who cares, Interplay is nothing, they're still trying to cash in with the same games from centuries ago, even though they SOLD THE RIGHTS.
Bethesda is the awesomest of companies that has given us the elder scrolls series. I especially liked their last 2 games Oblivion and Fallout 3. What's with the hatred ? They make good games and they support them.
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Sep 2009 07:02 Post subject: |
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Funny thing... I'm sad about this too, but for different reasons: I just personally think it's a shame that Bethesda seems more interested in failed game franchises than their own Elder Scrolls series.
Ah... Fallout 1/2... the only games more overrated than Baldurs Gate.
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Sep 2009 13:29 Post subject: |
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Bethsuda have never made a game I liked anyway's. Way too grindy for my liking.
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Sep 2009 13:36 Post subject: |
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are you on crack? bethesdas games can be completed on lvl 1 cause of the fucked up lvl scaling
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Sep 2009 13:42 Post subject: |
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| EwarWoo1 wrote: | | Bethsuda have never made a game I liked anyway's. |
This.
Oblivion had uninteresting story, fucked up leveling, chances of intimidating a character based on percentages(really?), and without any mods I can't see someone playing it.
And Fallout 3 was basically Oblivion with guns. FO3 was also one of my biggest disappointments of the year.
Morrowind was a lot better, but they've been taking the casual market since then.
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Sep 2009 14:10 Post subject: |
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| VGAdeadcafe wrote: | Who cares, Interplay is nothing, they're still trying to cash in with the same games from centuries ago, even though they SOLD THE RIGHTS.
Bethesda is the awesomest of companies that has given us the elder scrolls series. I especially liked their last 2 games Oblivion and Fallout 3. What's with the hatred ? They make good games and they support them. |
I agree 100%. Fuck Interplay, die already, useless pos
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Sep 2009 14:10 Post subject: |
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Bethesda is like that cute and funny girl u once know (arena,daggerfall,morrowind) that ended up as a bukkake queen whore (oblivion, fallout) u dont wanna to have anything to do with anymore. They should be now leaned against the wall and shot in the head nkwd style for bringing R into Retardnes in pc gaming.
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Epsilon
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Sep 2009 14:22 Post subject: |
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Yeah they base their law suit on the fact that "Consumers have become confused, over what product they buy"
So if I want Fallout, then I'm confused and what I really want is Fallout 3.
If I want Fallout 2, I'm confused and what I really want is Fallout 3.
If I want to play Fallout: Tactics, I must be confused and what I should be playing is Fallout 3.
It's either they believe people are idiots, which argueably explains the products they've been putting out "Oblivion, Fallout 3".
Or they want to slowly erase the previous Fallout games from history and make sure they can't be distributed anymore, thus making the "Bethesduh" games official canon.
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Sep 2009 14:38 Post subject: |
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| Epsilon wrote: | Yeah they base their law suit on the fact that "Consumers have become confused, over what product they buy"
So if I want Fallout, then I'm confused and what I really want is Fallout 3.
If I want Fallout 2, I'm confused and what I really want is Fallout 3.
If I want to play Fallout: Tactics, I must be confused and what I should be playing is Fallout 3.
It's either they believe people are idiots, which argueably explains the products they've been putting out "Oblivion, Fallout 3".
Or they want to slowly erase the previous Fallout games from history and make sure they can't be distributed anymore, thus making the "Bethesduh" games official canon. |
There's a whole lot more to it than that. I think you actually know this but you want to be edgy instead.. and the whole truth doesn't leave much room to insult Bethesda.
Interplay entered into a contract. That contract stated that Bethesda got to approve all marketing and distribution of the original titles. Interplay did not submit anything for approval.
They are selling a package as a 'trilogy', which is probably what Bethesda wanted to avoid.. to eliminate confusion. People see 'trilogy', they think 1, 2 and 3. Except there is no 3.
On top of that, they have made ZERO progress on the MMO when it was to be in development and funded over 6 months ago. They haven't even got enough change for a sausage biscuit at this point, and no work has been done on the MMO.
Interplay is a sham. They are nothing like the Interplay of old. They have done everything wrong, either trying to cash in on a quick buck from old titles.. or actually trying to do right but failing due to utter incompetency. Either way Bethesda has every right to have Interplay found in breach of contract because in every aspect they are.
Bethesda is protecting their property. They bought it, they own it. And everyone here who isn't a complete moron would do the same. Failure to protect your IP can lead to you losing it.
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