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Ankh




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 06:38    Post subject: Cheating
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413519 SteamID banned of 4762375 checked
8.68% of Steam accounts checked are VAC banned


So how many of then you recon are MW2 or CS? Razz

I checked how many BC:BC2 accounts where banned atm too : 1,716
Thats not too bad, unfortunatly thats just the ones playing on PB servers. I wonder how many cheaters we've got left on the non PB servers.

http://www.pbbans.com/mbi.php

loads of cheaters banned apparently in Enemy Territory - bit suprised that so many actually play that game.


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adastar




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 09:40    Post subject:
thats not cool.

The one issue i have with vac bannings is when accounts get hacked and then banned.Steam wont unban them and thats some BS.
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Zpewn




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 09:53    Post subject:
You've got to remember that pbbans.com only keeps track of players banned on servers that has their streaming option or whatever it is. So there's a lot more banned players.
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dodger2020




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 13:50    Post subject:
adastar wrote:
thats not cool.

The one issue i have with vac bannings is when accounts get hacked and then banned.Steam wont unban them and thats some BS.


If your account gets hacked that's your own fault. It's YOUR responsibility to secure your own system. If you go and get infected with malware and someone steals your password, that's your fault not Valve's.

Now if there was some mass hack on Steam itself that didn't involve the users at all and rather used some sort of steam exploit, that's a different story. But as far as I know that hasn't happened. It's either been people infected with malware or people being retarded and telling people their passwords.
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 13:53    Post subject:
"Lifted bans" ??? WTF?


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 14:14    Post subject: Re: Cheating
Ankh wrote:

loads of cheaters banned apparently in Enemy Territory - bit suprised that so many actually play that game.


Enemy Territory is pretty awesome tbh, providing you meant Wolfenstein
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 14:34    Post subject: Re: Cheating
wizarD. wrote:
Ankh wrote:

loads of cheaters banned apparently in Enemy Territory - bit suprised that so many actually play that game.


Enemy Territory is pretty awesome tbh, providing you meant Wolfenstein


No, I ment Enemy Territory (Quake Wars). Not Wolfenstein.


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atrox6661
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 15:02    Post subject:
I have had a cheat for years that made It so I can spam mic and be un-mutable, and also copy peoples names so admins can't ban me. I have yet to be Vac banned. Take that shitheads Very Happy.


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Ankh




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 15:03    Post subject:
Sire, your a cunt.


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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 16:28    Post subject:
I'm one of those 8.68%. I hacked on MW2 when I was done with the game.
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 16:34    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
I'm one of those 8.68%. I hacked on MW2 when I was done with the game.


Nice - never mind people who want to play using no cheats. Rolling Eyes


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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 16:51    Post subject:
Then they should obviously play another game.
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 17:02    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
Then they should obviously play another game.


...cos of people like you? Yeah thats nice...just cos some people can't play without cheating - the ones who wont cheat should quit. Are you serious?


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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 17:08    Post subject:
Who said I can't play without cheating? And no, I'm not the one saying non-cheating people should quit, that would be Activision and Infinity Ward. I'm just passing the message along.

Besides, people in this game can't see the difference between cheating and good playing anyways. When I was playing without cheats, every nuke I got people called me a hacker and a faggot.
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 17:12    Post subject:
I never said you couldnt play without cheating - but you along with lots of others have been using and still use cheating. You concider this fair towards players who dont cheat and have bought the game?
You might have ment that its Activision/Infinite Awards message to the players that they should quite if they cant handle the cheaters.... but you never did say that you quoted them. So thats why I thought it was your personal thoughts about it all.


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 17:20    Post subject:
I bought the game too. I used a whatever it's called when you see people's names/locations at all times for about a day. When I wanted to check if the game had less cheaters a few weeks later, I was banned. Don't get me wrong, I despise cheaters when I try to play a game I've bought.

If you can't beat them, join them.
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inz




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 17:21    Post subject:
I guess there's some degree of adolescent enjoyment in online cheating, but I never bothered with it (well, apart from games I played with my RL friends... Man it was so much fun to piss them off Cool Face). MW2 players deserve it tho for supporting those sellouts and the evil Activision.
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 17:29    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
If you can't beat them, join them.


I don't agree on this part. Joining the idiots doesnt make it less wrong.
It also doesnt make it more fair for the ones that don't cheat. If everyone think this way it will be even harder to find a non cheating server. No?


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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 17:31    Post subject:
Maybe, but if everyone cheated, there would be no fun in cheating anymore, would there?
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 17:33    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
Maybe, but if everyone cheated, there would be no fun in cheating anymore, would there?


Is there fun in cheating in the first place? I think not...and trying to fill the servers with cheaters is the wrong way to get rid of the cheaters. So I don't agree with you. Avoiding the game or play on private servers (unfortunatly, this means gaining no experience...the most anoying part with this game) is one way to avoid them. However, this mean you have to find enough people to trust with the password Razz

There are more non-cheating players than cheating ones...but its enough with ONE cheater to ruin it for the rest.


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 17:35    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
If you can't beat them, join them.

In my opinion, that kind of logic is very out of place in this situation. I'd dislike people who think that way no less than I dislike the cheaters who do it all the time Smile
This is basically what breeds more cheaters.

In any case, personally I never cheated in MP games - never really felt the need.
Thankfully in larger scale, team based MP games one average cheater doesn't make too much of an impact if you occasionally stumble on him..
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 17:42    Post subject:
I'd like to point out that im not judging anyone - just sharing my personal thoughts on cheating


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dezztroy




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 17:43    Post subject:
There is obviously fun in cheating, why else would there be people doing it?

I'm not the person who cheats when playing seriously, but every now and then it's fun to screw around with friends.

The reason really that I cheated in this, is mostly to show what a broken piece of junk the game is.
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 17:51    Post subject:
Show who?

People cheating are cunts. It's easy as that. Spoiling a game for others just cos its "fun" is the worst excuse ever. I can't really understand where the fun in not having to aim or search for the enemies is. If I wanted that kind of "game" might aswell watch a movie instead.

Anyway, don't get me wrong...my frustration towards cheaters is not aimed at you specifically...its aimed at everyone cheating online. Cheating in a singleplayer game however is nothing that I care much about. But personally I don't cheat in any kind of game (apart from when I play monopoly with my gf...strangely she's never managed to figure out why I always end up with tons of cash even though I don't have any houses!)


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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 19:48    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
There is obviously fun in cheating, why else would there be people doing it?

I'm not the person who cheats when playing seriously, but every now and then it's fun to screw around with friends.

The reason really that I cheated in this, is mostly to show what a broken piece of junk the game is.


your whole arguement is fail unfortunately. As soon as one twat takes his cheats online it just sets the ball rolling for other idiots to do the same because they suck at the game or as in your case.. you wanted to prove to your mates, people on here, yourself? how broken the game is.
This game is not by any means perfect, but it's no more broken then BFBC2 in their current state. No need to make it any worse by bringing cheats into a mp game.
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 20:25    Post subject:
dodger2020 wrote:
adastar wrote:
thats not cool.

The one issue i have with vac bannings is when accounts get hacked and then banned.Steam wont unban them and thats some BS.


If your account gets hacked that's your own fault. It's YOUR responsibility to secure your own system. If you go and get infected with malware and someone steals your password, that's your fault not Valve's.

Now if there was some mass hack on Steam itself that didn't involve the users at all and rather used some sort of steam exploit, that's a different story. But as far as I know that hasn't happened. It's either been people infected with malware or people being retarded and telling people their passwords.


interseting theory, so when someone drops a K on steam games and their shit gets hacked to bad for them? Why dont mmo accounts get banned then when they get hacked? Rolling Eyes
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stemot




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 20:28    Post subject:
All on-line cheaters are arseholes, no matter which fucking way they want to try and sugar coat there reasons. You want to cheat on a game in SP that's fine, your only ruining your own experience. As soon as you go online with cheats you become a selfish little shit that wouldn't deserve pissing on if he was on fire. Simples.
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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 20:29    Post subject:
Pure rage, cute.


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stemot




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 20:35    Post subject:
Mussolinka wrote:
Pure rage, cute.


Deserved pure rage. Cuter.
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killabyte




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PostPosted: Thu, 15th Apr 2010 20:46    Post subject:
dezztroy wrote:
If you can't beat them, join them.


dezz makes a semi-valid point. i'm not defending cheaters because no matter the justification you are ruining the game for legitimate players. that being said... i played bf2 for awhile online. i witnessed a lot of gay shit. i finally got tired of it and took on dezz's mentality but not for the sake of cheating to ruin everyone else's fun since mine was being ruined but as a way to use it against the other cheaters. the blatant assholes. in fact the "hax" that i paid for came from a member on this site who i won't name but had a nice little thing going.

i made it a point to punish the ones who kept hogging vehicles. the ones who loved to spam the chat or type "n00b" entirely too often. the ones who whined about cheaters constantly and of course loved to say "nigger". the ones i truly enjoyed tormenting were the ones who loved to pick sniper and then sit off in the distance and after you waited 5 mins to get in the cockpit of the jet or helicopter they'd cap you in the head, repeatedly. those were always fun to punish. of course i had my own fun sometimes but i kept it in check. cheating is lame and a shitty thing to do, i will not defend that but let me tell you - poppin some asshole through a wall repeatedly who keeps trying to sneak up on you to put a mine under your tank is pretty entertaining. so is spawn raping for a short period NOTE keyword short. just enough to get them riled up.

besides, once you cheat in a game like that you can truly see who else is cheating. you'll see them spot things you know they can't spot or see, unless they were cheating like you. it amazed me at the # of people who were cheating. i've not played an online pc game since then. it was really disheartening to learn that many were cheaters but at the same time that ignorance was definitely not bliss.
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