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kalato
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azzman
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Nasty, that would suck for all those universities etc using the units for number crunching via otherOS
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chiv
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Apr 2010 07:15 Post subject: |
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hmmm.. is this legal? i assume it is if sony is doing it, but it just doesnt sound like something that should be legal... forced updates? even microsoft isnt that evil...
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WaldoJ
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Apr 2010 07:53 Post subject: |
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End User License Agreement
nobody reads those
then people go mad
if its in the End User License Agreement then its legal
user has to agree
since no one reads
sony/apple/ms can get away with anything
| Sin317 wrote: | | I win, you lose. Or Go fuck yourself. |
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Apr 2010 08:22 Post subject: |
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nope they do not get away with anything. maybe in the us, but in germany for example the eula only applies when its part of the buying contract. its futile if its only in a booklet,while any installation or changed afterwards
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chiv
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Apr 2010 08:23 Post subject: |
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always hated eula's...
they fill them with so much bullshit thats written in such a roundabout way... not only is it a massive wall of text that noone who isnt involved in law would want to read, its often written in such a way that many people wont even understand what is being said IF they actually read it.
sucks that there arent rules as to what you can put into them and how you call attention to them, ill always debate their legality (or rather, their right to be legal)...
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Apr 2010 08:33 Post subject: |
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| WaldoJ wrote: | End User License Agreement
nobody reads those
then people go mad
if its in the End User License Agreement then its legal
user has to agree
since no one reads
sony/apple/ms can get away with anything |
Not true. The companies to write stuff in their EULA's, but that's doesn't mean it's legal. In many countries, Germany especially, it's not even entirely certain if these EULA's are valid, because you would have to be able to read them before you make the contract, in this case buy the console. But because you have to agree afterwards, it might be nonvalid. But then again someone would have to sue Sony, and I don't think that's happening...
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Apr 2010 09:37 Post subject: |
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Useless topic is useless topic.EULA 2008-EULA 2010 comparison:
2008:
11. MAINTENANCE AND UPGRADES
From time to time, it may become necessary for SCEA to provide certain content or services to you to ensure that PSN, content or services offered through PSN, your PlayStation®3 computer entertainment system, the PSP® (PlayStation®Portable) system or other SCEA-authorized hardware is functioning properly in accordance with SCEA guidelines. Some content or services may be provided automatically without notice when you sign into PSN. Such content or service may include automatic updates or upgrades which may change your current operating system, cause a loss of data or content or cause a loss of functionalities or utilities. Such upgrades or updates may be provided for system software for your PlayStation®3 computer entertainment system, the PSP® (PlayStation®Portable) system, or other SCEA-authorized hardware. Access or use to any system software is subject to terms and conditions of a separate end user license agreement found at http://www.us.playstation.com/termsofuse. You authorize SCEA to provide such content and services and agree that SCEA shall not be liable for any damages arising from provision of such content or services or maintenance services. It is recommended that you regularly back up any data located on the hard disk that is of a type that can be backed up.
2010:
11. MAINTENANCE AND UPGRADES
From time to time, it may become necessary for SCEA to provide certain content to you to ensure that Sony Online Services and content offered through Sony Online Services, your PlayStation 3 computer entertainment system, the PSP (PlayStation Portable) system or other SCEA-authorized hardware is functioning properly in accordance with SCEA guidelines. Some content may be provided automatically without notice when you sign in. Such content may include automatic updates or upgrades which may change your current operating system, cause a loss of data or content or cause a loss of functionalities or utilities. Such upgrades or updates may be provided for system software for your PlayStation 3 computer entertainment system, the PSP (PlayStation Portable) system, or other SCEA-authorized hardware. Access or use to any system software is subject to terms and conditions of a separate end user license agreement found at http://www.us.playstation.com/termsofuse. You authorize SCEA to provide such content and agree that SCEA shall not be liable for any damages, loss of data or loss of functionalities arising from provision of such content or maintenance services. It is recommended that you regularly back up any archivable data located on the hard disk.
Happy 2008 to all.
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WaldoJ
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lol
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garus
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Apr 2010 17:52 Post subject: |
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snip
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caserv
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Apr 2010 18:58 Post subject: |
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| garus wrote: | So it's been there all along?  |
Yup, looks like it. Here's TOS from 2008 (Version 4.1 (15 October 2008):
http://www.scei.co.jp/ps3-eula/psn/e/e_tosua_en.html and 9. chapter has pretty much the same content as the "new one".
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9. MAINTENANCE AND UPGRADES
From time to time, we may want to provide you with new content, services or software to ensure that PSN or your PLAYSTATION®3 computer entertainment system, PSP® (PlayStation®Portable) system or other authorised hardware devices are functioning properly in accordance with our guidelines. Such content, services or software may be downloaded automatically and without further notice when you sign into PSN, and may include automatic updates or upgrades which may change your current operating system and could cause loss of data or content, or loss of function or utility. Such upgrades or updates may be provided for system software for your PLAYSTATION®3 computer entertainment system unit, PSP® (PlayStation®Portable) system or other SCE-authorized hardware. Access to or use of any system software is subject to terms and conditions of a separate end user license agreement. Data and content may also be lost during maintenance or repair of your equipment. You must archive your personal photo, music and video content regularly to prevent such loss of data. You hereby authorise us to provide such content, services or software and agree that, to the extent permitted by applicable law, we are not liable for any loss of data, content, function or utility.
In addition, you may be able to set your PLAYSTATION®3 computer entertainment system or other authorised hardware device to download new content from the PlayStation®Store automatically without further notice to you when you sign into PSN. These Conditions shall apply to any such content.
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Surray
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| Posted: Fri, 23rd Apr 2010 19:12 Post subject: |
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was it really necessary to post the 2008 eula again?
it's right there already 2 posts above yours...
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caserv
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SexyPig
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Apr 2010 01:18 Post subject: |
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And...? I still own the console, i can throw it away, i can sell it, it is mine.
stalin, hitler same shit different asshole, both was retarded gays.
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dsergei
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| Posted: Mon, 26th Apr 2010 05:56 Post subject: |
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| SexyPig wrote: | | And...? I still own the console, i can throw it away, i can sell it, it is mine. |
Well imagine buying a car - you can throw it away or sell it. But the manufacturer can come and remove the wheels at any time.
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