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 Posted: Mon, 31st May 2010 19:00 Post subject: Just had to put a close friend to a mental institute |
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Just had to put a close friend to a mental institute with police force.... i'm sure he's stuck on a closed department for months now.
Can you imagine how i feel 
It really broke my heart to see 5 policemen jumping on top of him and i couldnt do shit.... i was even in some way responsible ... man i feel crap ... i know i did the right thing but pffff 
today really was like A beautifull Mind ... only 10 times worse
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| Posted: Mon, 31st May 2010 19:17 Post subject: |
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why was he institutionalized?
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| Posted: Mon, 31st May 2010 19:37 Post subject: |
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Because he thinks he is the next son of god and takes advice from his dead grandma who sits on his shoulder.... things you can laugh about at the end... but some really creepy shit when somebody is looking you right in the eyes and really believes what he tells you.
Because he didnt trust his parents anymore i had to take him to the mental institution where he suddenly completely freaked out... took his car and drove backwards in a fence before he took off.... left me standing for the police to arrive to get a ride home.
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| Posted: Mon, 31st May 2010 20:47 Post subject: |
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thats pretty crazy. your biography is going to be awesome.
also narcissism is actually awesome!
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| Posted: Mon, 31st May 2010 22:00 Post subject: |
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you deserve to feel like shit for doing that to your friend
cockcockcockcockcockcockcockcockcockcockcockcock
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| Posted: Mon, 31st May 2010 22:03 Post subject: |
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If he wasn't violent, you actually deserve a good good good beating Lathieza.
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TSR69
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| Posted: Mon, 31st May 2010 22:13 Post subject: |
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I think Latieza tried to do the right thing but what is the right thing in this case?
Just reading Latieza's statement about this person's behaviour schizophrenia is very likely.
If a person with a disorder like that becomes a danger to himself/herself or others forced institutionalisation is necessary.
If not a more peaceful approach is a lot better and try to convince a person that he/she needs to start with medication.
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| Posted: Mon, 31st May 2010 22:19 Post subject: |
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Last edited by Nalo on Wed, 3rd Jul 2024 07:10; edited 2 times in total
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| Posted: Mon, 31st May 2010 22:33 Post subject: |
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Sometimes I think that the average lay person, one without training are too quick to judge other people and their mental state. That is my comment here however I don't know what really happened in this situation. None of us do.
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| Posted: Mon, 31st May 2010 23:23 Post subject: |
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I got his mother crying on the phone telling me how thankfull she is ... so i think i did the right thing ...
Also the psychiatrists told me they didnt expect me to come in with a person in that bad shape like he was otherwise they would have alarmed police from the start .. i think this explains a bit the mental condition he was in. I'm sure he wouldnt harm me because he called me his councelor and business partner in the goods of god.
Thanks for the positive words .... its good to hear from other people i did the right thing .... and i also know i was right but on the inside it feels just wrong.
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| Posted: Mon, 31st May 2010 23:35 Post subject: |
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Schizophrenic in a psychotic episode. Damn, that guy needs real care and some strong drugs.
You definitely did the right thing, he could easily hurt himself or another without realizing it. Can't be reasoned with unfortunately. :/
Just know he'll get the sorely needed medical and psychological help to get better thanks to your actions.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
"The sky was the color of a TV tuned to a dead station" - Neuromancer
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TSR69
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| Posted: Mon, 31st May 2010 23:37 Post subject: |
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Lathieza have you ever seen the short series "Kijken in de ziel"?
Only 6 episodes and should still be available on "uitzendiggemist", 1st episode we see a psychiatrist visiting a psychiatric patient at home and this patient also has a severe drug addiction.
He also tells in the camera about an imaginative case of a patient who thinks he has a chip in his head so he can speak to aliens in space. Maybe it can help you to get some ease of mind maybe not.
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| Posted: Mon, 31st May 2010 23:41 Post subject: |
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@iconized thanks for the link... i will check it out but i will wait a couple off days. I dealt with him yesterday for 5 hours and today allmost 8. First have to clear my head a bit again. Listening and trying to reason with those people really cracks your head.
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| Posted: Mon, 31st May 2010 23:55 Post subject: |
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You did the right thing indeed, now relax and try (if possible) to not think about that anymore. 
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Jun 2010 00:16 Post subject: |
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Your friend shouldn't be institutionalized, he should migrate to the U.S. he could almost surely get a job on Fox News and become one of their really famous anchors 
It's all about where you are in the world.
He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither
- Benjamin Franklin - 1759
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Jun 2010 04:43 Post subject: |
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you did the right thing. ur friend will get help, and he wont be able to hurt anyone. you shouldnt feel bad about it, because you didnt screw him over or anything... its not that you did the 'morally' right thing, which is what can make you feel like crap, you did what as right 'by him'.
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| TheSaint wrote: | | Wow that sucks, i read these cases dayly, do you need a good lawyer? I work at a pretty good law firm, criminal defense, just pm me if you do |
Thanks for your offer but i won't get any problems because of this. Could have used 1,5 years ago 
I'll keep it in mind
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| Posted: Fri, 4th Jun 2010 04:50 Post subject: |
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Sorry to hear that, the mind is such a fragile thing.
We and I be going now, grandpa bone thinks this is sad.
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| Posted: Sat, 5th Jun 2010 11:09 Post subject: |
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Giving a small update since we are a couple of days further....
The fucking lunatic broke out allready 3 times on 3 different days mostly with the use of a spoon and a fork ... FFS
Worst thing is .. the minute he comes out he comes to see me
Yesterday i was having some friends over and then he shows up ... damn... had to talk him down and hold him at the same location till the police would arrive.
How fucking hard can it be to hold a person down ???
Edit : btw ... it's getting easier and easier to turn him in
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| Posted: Sat, 5th Jun 2010 11:16 Post subject: |
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He really likes you
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| Posted: Sat, 5th Jun 2010 11:23 Post subject: |
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@Lathieza
I know how you feel on this man. I actually had to do this with my mom. The first night they had to remove her clothes and put her in a gown and a full strap down bed. She "somehow" removed the wiring from her bra and picked the locks and removed Terminator style and came home like she had just gotten home from "partying". I was only 18 .. but I was her executor so I had admitted her the first time with her consent. Then had to turn her in again. In the end when she finally settled and realized her delusions and problems and accepted the therapy she's a 100% different person now.
I know how it feels to slowly give up on your best friend due to the B.S. and I can't discourage it, but just trying to give you a sliver of hope in the future that it may improve. They say in interventions, to truly help the person, you have to cut them off. Don't give him a place to stay when he escapes, it's "enabling" I can't tell you whether or not to do this because I don't think I could of ever told my mother to fuck off when she came home from escaping...
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| Posted: Sat, 5th Jun 2010 11:33 Post subject: |
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@madmax17
He sees me as his advicer ... ..
@Spazmotic
Damn you also have a hard story there... good to see that worked out well. Thanks for your advice .. will keep that in mind.
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| Posted: Sat, 5th Jun 2010 12:33 Post subject: |
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What kind of FAIL mental institution is that where someone can escape 3 times in a few days?
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| Posted: Sat, 5th Jun 2010 12:35 Post subject: |
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Not everyone who is put into a mental institution is put under Hannibal Lecter watch. Where there is a will, there is a way. Mental Institutes are not prisons, and generally do not resemble them in anyway unless you've only seen one in a movie, or are a serious offender.
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| Posted: Sat, 5th Jun 2010 13:23 Post subject: |
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An institution with fences, closed circle cameras and security is enough for keeping most patients from escaping.
And when a patient with severe delusions (he may be dangerous as no one can guarantee he won't think his mother is possessed by the devil and must be destroyed), can easily escape whenever he pleases, without steps being taken to prevent this, then this mental institution should start working more properly.
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| Posted: Sat, 5th Jun 2010 13:30 Post subject: |
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That may be true, but what should be is not always what will be. I'm not advocating that they're trying their best or whatever, just saying.. low wage guards / employees, faulty closed circuit cameras with low resolution, and "fences" don't really equate too much to someone with the resolve to circumvent them.
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TSR69
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| Posted: Sat, 5th Jun 2010 23:32 Post subject: |
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Yeah off course i will visit him.... it is still a friend and i won't let my friends down... no matter what.
I also planned to gave him a visit last week but when he breaks out all the time i don't have to go....
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