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Gomp




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jun 2010 15:10    Post subject: Why the fuck...
...do i have to take my XML exam on PAPER??? and not by using a computer.
Its so unnessesary of my school...pathetic in fact. who the fuck writes code on paper? U loose focus on all the <bla> hai </bla> after 5 mins writing this shit.
I asked to use a comp and the bitch ansvered me that the due to apply for a "special" exception expired on 1 march.....
Why the fuck wasnt i told before? and why do they set the date this early?....like i wasnt busy enough this semester allready Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jun 2010 15:22    Post subject:
Aye, I hate programming exams on paper with passion! Mad The most retarded idea ever!
Algorithm exam on paper I can understand, but programming (like writing "printf" and the like) on paper is retarded!
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jun 2010 15:48    Post subject:
bring a laptop+mobile printer and then print it out and hand that in. it's on paper, after all Cool Face
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Gomp




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jun 2010 17:15    Post subject:
If it only was that easy...
COURSES THAT IS TOUGHT ON A COMP SHOULD HAVE THE EXAM ON COMP...why dont they understand that? its not a fucking essay im writing
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The_Leaf




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jun 2010 17:16    Post subject:
Same here, I remember all my programming exams, including XML, were on paper, and I remember I too found it quite annoying.
On the other hand, I guess it's an anti-cheat measure... I mean... I know *I* would've gone there with a portable warez copy of Altova XML Spy on an usb key if the exam was done on a pc grinhurt
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chiv




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jun 2010 17:17    Post subject:
well id imagine its done that way because too many people abused it and used the computer to cheat.


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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jun 2010 17:44    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Aye, I hate programming exams on paper with passion! Mad The most retarded idea ever!
Algorithm exam on paper I can understand, but programming (like writing "printf" and the like) on paper is retarded!


I was lucky that we did that on computers, but my sister on her uni had to write programs on paper... I mean WTF? You miss ; at the end and you get 0 pts :\ I mean that's what computers are for! You make the program, miss ; at the end and an Error will come out. And then you'll say: silly me, I forgot ; at the end Rolling Eyes

Conclusion: writing programs on paper=MEGA RETARDED Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jun 2010 18:58    Post subject:
I'm left handed. I took my Computer Science AP test in the US here. I knew every single problem, but I still failed the exam. Why? We have to take our AP tests with PENS on PAPER here. Since my LEFT HAND SMEARED the PEN on the PAPER, they ruled what I turned in was INELIGIBLE and thus I got FUCKED. Doesn't get stupider than that.


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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jun 2010 19:03    Post subject:
Pens and paper is so primitive Razz


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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jun 2010 19:05    Post subject:
@dingo_d
And the absurd is, these silly grammatical mistakes are not what would cause a program to break or not. Sure it wouldn't compile, but these are things that are corrected within 1 second of compile failure. And instead of looking for the algorithmic correctness and еfficiency, they hang you for silly bullshit... Mad

@tainted4ever
I am left handed also, and it's a problem, but after so many years of studying, haven't you learned how to control it (ie hold your hand high so it doesn't smear the ink)? Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jun 2010 19:05    Post subject:
Gomp wrote:
If it only was that easy...
COURSES THAT IS TOUGHT ON A COMP SHOULD HAVE THE EXAM ON COMP...why dont they understand that? its not a fucking essay im writing
so its the same shit in Norway :/

Its probably because someone WOULD be able to get Internet access no matter how hard they try to stop just that.
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Gomp




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jun 2010 19:37    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
Gomp wrote:
If it only was that easy...
COURSES THAT IS TOUGHT ON A COMP SHOULD HAVE THE EXAM ON COMP...why dont they understand that? its not a fucking essay im writing
so its the same shit in Norway :/

Its probably because someone WOULD be able to get Internet access no matter how hard they try to stop just that.


Ehmm Razz
*hint hint* look where i come from Very Happy

Disable the network card?
Disable usb ports?
Block Mac-address?

I can think of numerous ideas to get this done but it seems like they just dont bother. Give them some paper and a pen and they will be ok.. Mad
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jun 2010 19:39    Post subject:
tainted4ever wrote:
I'm left handed.

iNatan wrote:
I am left handed also

Begone devil spawn, begone I say!


Not quite the same, but back in automation class we had to do our grafcet(this) tests and exercises with paper and pen also... which was stupid because the lab had more than enough computers with the software (microwin step7 or something like that)that allowed you to do the same thing but taking 1/2 of the time.
Good times. Laughing


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Gomp




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jun 2010 19:48    Post subject:
Well this might come as a shock but im left handed aswell Laughing
But i tend to get soo exausted in my hand after writing for a couple of hours, allmost get like a burn on the inside of my finger Mad
And ontop of that im getting cramps in my writing hand that makes me loose valuable time Sad
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jun 2010 20:01    Post subject:
ive got deformed bone on my finger where i hold my pen when i write Sad
damn school


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Gomp




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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jun 2010 20:19    Post subject:
kazemaky wrote:
ive got deformed bone on my finger where i hold my pen when i write Sad
damn school


Got the same, and thats the spot that hurts like holy HELL when i write Crying or Very sad
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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jun 2010 20:21    Post subject:
kazemaky wrote:
ive got deformed bone on my finger where i hold my pen when i write Sad
damn school


damn man, your holding a pen, not doing a gorilla grip on it like your wanking to new porn...

no ones going to steal your pen, loosen the grip Razz


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jun 2010 00:39    Post subject:
kazemaky wrote:
ive got deformed bone on my finger where i hold my pen when i write Sad
damn school


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jun 2010 01:50    Post subject:
yeah it is indeed retarded.

I used to take php lessons in evening school when i was @ university. Just needed some programming for the fun of it Laughing

So i went to the exam and wanted to do it quickie because i had a real uni exam the next day. So exam PHP with pen & paper... I lost points for omitting some ";" and not closing my "?>" tag... Why was syntax highlighting invented? huh

just pull out the internet cable and you cannot cheat. You can cheat with cellphones anywayz these days, just retarded to still do programming on paper ...

I am giving a course and it is open world exam. Code it, run it, fix your problems and call me when you are done. If it is ok, ok, if not, do some more. Easy for me, no work afterwards and easy for the lads in the class.
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jun 2010 02:28    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
@dingo_d
And the absurd is, these silly grammatical mistakes are not what would cause a program to break or not. Sure it wouldn't compile, but these are things that are corrected within 1 second of compile failure. And instead of looking for the algorithmic correctness and еfficiency, they hang you for silly bullshit... Mad

@tainted4ever
I am left handed also, and it's a problem, but after so many years of studying, haven't you learned how to control it (ie hold your hand high so it doesn't smear the ink)? Laughing


I don't write with a pen. Ever. The experience was novel. I take all my exams with pencil. Only AP tests require pens.
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jun 2010 02:48    Post subject:
Lol.

Programing exams should always be done on paper.
It shows that you know the correct syntax.
I had a programming exam with basic turing and c+ like 7 years ago.
It sucks. 4 page program for something that'll grade everyone in class accordingly based on attendance and marks.

What bullshit was that my prof didn't even proof read the exam. Just checked the programming grammar and gave a perfect mark. It was bull then. Never again took pc engineering again.


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jun 2010 03:17    Post subject:
We wrote PASCAL programs on paper a long time ago when I took a course. It was supposed to force us to learn to think structurally and analytic which in turn created better sources as opposed to sit in the editor and go with it as you went along.

Personally I'd rather do some initial system development projecting than write even a tiny bit of code on a paper, it sucks, I get cramps in my LEFT hand after 10 minutes and it takes 3 times as long.


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jun 2010 04:30    Post subject:
well for exams it works in teaching structure.
you wont have to do pen/paper programming after.
and the structure will stick or at least should.


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jun 2010 09:25    Post subject:
WaldoJ wrote:

Programing exams should always be done on paper.
It shows that you know the correct syntax.


Bah, imho the syntax is the least important of the things you need to know when programming, and you can pick it up easily with the help of any decent IDE and a tutorial ... if it was for me all programming exams would be in pseudocode, that way you could concentrate on what really matters: code structure, decoupling, good class hierarchy, correct recognition and realization of design patterns etc...
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jun 2010 09:35    Post subject:
I've the same shit here. Miserable bitch forces us to write everything in our notebooks. Well, HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW IT WILL WORK? I can't exactly compile it on paper.


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jun 2010 10:52    Post subject:
Mussolinka wrote:
I've the same shit here. Miserable bitch forces us to write everything in our notebooks. Well, HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW IT WILL WORK? I can't exactly compile it on paper.


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jun 2010 11:09    Post subject:
Mussolinka wrote:
I've the same shit here. Miserable bitch forces us to write everything in our notebooks. Well, HOW THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW IT WILL WORK? I can't exactly compile it on paper.


Ehm, well, your job is to write what you think will work, then it's the teachers task to see if you actually understand programming without having various aids like IDE's sorting out the stuff for you.

It's a good strategy actually, it's just a major pain in the butt that adds frustration, extra hard work and patience beyond human capabilities.

If they at least allowed you to write the program in notepad or something where you could cut'n'paste and sort out classes etc. with simple word processor functions, it would help a lot.


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