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 Posted: Fri, 26th Aug 2016 21:26 Post subject: PC piracy survey results: 35% of PC gamers pirate |
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| Quote: | At some point in their lives, 90 percent of PC gamers have pirated a game. Almost 25 percent of PC gamers have pirated more than 50 games in their lifetimes. Those are two statistics from an anonymous survey we put up on PC Gamer two weeks ago after publishing an investigation into piracy in 2016. We hoped for a few thousand responses. We got 50,742, from PC gamers living in dozens of countries around the world. That’s a lot of data.
Before we dig into the results, it’s important to note that this was an open survey, with nothing to stop the respondents from lying or taking it multiple times to skew the results. It’s possible some respondents answered in bad faith—and we have identified where the results skew in jokey ways—but given the size of our response pool, we believe the resulting answers paint a credible picture of piracy in 2016. |
 
 
| Quote: | More than 4000 respondents wrote in their own explanations here. Some are simple:
- I'm not paying £30 for a 15 year-old game
- I'm still a kid when I did this
- No support in Africa, no official dealers
- It was easy
- It was huni pop |
| Quote: | A few made it hard to pass judgment.
- I get games to cope with depression. Sometimes I can't afford enough games to keep me going.
- "I'm on disability. I realize that falls into the "lack of income" criteria but it needs to be stressed that my lack of income will never change and is not because "he just doesn't work hard enough" |
| Quote: | Many, many others offer justifications for why they pirated a game that they took some form of umbrage with.
- If the game tries to charge an AAA price ($60+) but lacks the quality or content to justify paying that for it or lack of any multiplayer in a game that should have. I pirated rimworld because the developer would not guarantee steam keys to people who backed it but the day it launched on steam i ponied up the cash.
- if the developer is lying on the trailer and shows better graphics than the actual product can show on highest settings. it's cheating the customers! search on youtube "ubisoft downgrades" and see for yourself. also games that reported to have many bugs.. first i try the pirated version to see how it works. and only if it's working right i'll buy the legal copy.. if the game is brokem i'm waiting for updated reviews and when it's fixed i'm buying it.. the waiting time also gain a price drop ususally.
- Investments cant be based off reviews anymore. Paid reviews bias and fraud voids all credibility.
- In game limitations ex. 30fps cap locked fov
- All Rockstar games and EA games are stolen out of principal.
- Insulting amount of DLC, I want the full product.
- Because fuck Blizzard, EA, Sony and any other huge game maker that fucks over their customers; but especially Blizzard.
- Developers putting in to little effort. It's DLC DLC DLC everywhere. Games are more of a money machine than something to entertain the masses now.
- Dumb ass Denuvo
- I feel ripped off by publishers who release extremely buggy / unplayable games and don't patch them adequately. I've had to "finish" games by watching video on youtube because bugs rendered the game unplayable.
- Corporate greed. Pre 2005 everything was good. Full complete games with decent expansions worth paying for instead of expansions to finish the game. Launch day DLC. Microtransactions. Etc etc etc. |
http://www.pcgamer.com/pc-piracy-survey-results-35-percent-of-pc-gamers-pirate/
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I actually find this article not too bad.
Since it got released on a rather big gaming website, maybe something will change for is in the future to the positive.
// Some of the graphs bars are fucked up though, if you look at the number and their relative height. 
Last edited by Bob Barnsen on Fri, 26th Aug 2016 21:27; edited 1 time in total
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| Posted: Fri, 26th Aug 2016 21:26 Post subject: |
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Online poll = trolled results.
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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thudo
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| Posted: Fri, 26th Aug 2016 22:03 Post subject: |
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Damn Serbians making us all look like cheapskates!! 
Anyway, why buy anything anymore when everyone in the last few years releases multiple kinds of YouTube play thrus showing various ways to defeat a game + far more hidden parts are revealed this way quicker so why bother these days? Pah! Too much comes out to have time on the hosting sites.
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thudo
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Aug 2016 01:04 Post subject: |
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| Guy_Incognito wrote: | Yes, blame Serbia+Montenegro with 70% piracy rate and a total of 7,800,000 people. However, USA with 30% piracy rate and 320,000,000 people is cool 
Or Scandinavian countries with 20x larger income but only 3x smaller piracy rate. |
heheh except I was being quite..  Spoiler: | sarcastic.......  |
Nah man.. nothing against any country... we all have reasons to do it since, oh, the late 70s..
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Aug 2016 02:20 Post subject: |
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What stands out for me (but expected): Can't afford and Demo being the big reason.
Things developers could battle without the need for DRM. If only!
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Aug 2016 02:27 Post subject: |
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I've always bought as many games as I could afford and pirated ones I didn't think were worth the money or didn't have the money for - that's what it always comes down to, doesn't it? If a game costs more than you feel you'll get out of it in terms of fun, you pirate it. Does the game have DRM? Then you wait for it to drop in price. It's not rocket science and every study such as this just confirms that most people that pirate, wouldn't buy the game if they had no other choice.
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Morphineus
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Aug 2016 02:30 Post subject: |
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Yup, I always cringe when I hear piracy as: lost sales.
Music industry is particularly daft with that. 
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sTo0z
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Aug 2016 02:32 Post subject: |
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I used to pirate hard in college because I thought it was so cool to have things early and for free. That was like 10 years ago.. 
These days I pretty much purchase everything, unless I REALLY hate the fuck out someone. Like Nintendo. Fuck Nintendo. Pirate the fuck out of the 3DS, and I don't even play any of the games. I bought the games I play even on their stupid shit.
But yah, pirating is pretty much dead to me, I just hang around here to ban you guys. 
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ixigia
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Aug 2016 02:50 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Aug 2016 02:54 Post subject: |
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I only pirate when games are shit. So 90% of the time I pirate.
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sTo0z
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Aug 2016 02:56 Post subject: |
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Yah I mostly did it to have stuff early, but with all the bullshit these days, you can't get anything early anymore.. just release like anybody else. Meh.
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Aug 2016 07:22 Post subject: |
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another bogus poll from a crap magazine.
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Aug 2016 09:36 Post subject: |
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Seems i'm high in the list, over 70%, or was it lolo, claude or blackeye 
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Aug 2016 12:36 Post subject: |
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| scaramonga wrote: | | I only pirate when games are shit. So 90% of the time I pirate. |
Make it 95+% and we're in the same boat.
| Frant wrote: | | Shitass games are ruining piracy. |
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Famou
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Aug 2016 12:43 Post subject: |
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I buy like 1 game a year. I would love to buy more games but they just aren't good.
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Aug 2016 12:56 Post subject: |
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Meh, that chart is just another mirror of the reality showcasing economic statistics.
And don't give me bullshit reasons like Denuvo, crap games, DLC, pre-ordering or some other romantic shit. If we all had the possibility to buy games at any given time, we would not care, whine and debate that much about this.
We're all a bunch of entitled hypocrites and it's all about money.
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JackQ
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Aug 2016 17:49 Post subject: |
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For me,hard copy protection actually encouraging my will to crack and pirate it.. Obvious example will be the 'D'...
Ironically,most of the games I am buying have little to know protection at all...
I only bought 3 'D' games so far ,not because Denuvo 'beat me' because of still respect left for the Developers...
"Fuck Denuvo"
Your personal opinions != the rest of the forum
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Aug 2016 18:02 Post subject: |
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Well last graph shows the whole motivation. Cocksucker companies can learn lesson from it. You shouldn't sell your shitty game with expensive price tag (yes, looking at you Sean the Douche and Ubifag) and should make a playable demo of the games. For fuck sake don't be so greedy to make demos. People have right to taste/use samples. Fashion industry does it, food industry does it, cosmetics, electronics and automotive industries also do it.
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Aug 2016 00:53 Post subject: |
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| FadeToBlack wrote: | | Well last graph shows the whole motivation. Cocksucker companies can learn lesson from it. You shouldn't sell your shitty game with expensive price tag (yes, looking at you Sean the Douche and Ubifag) and should make a playable demo of the games. For fuck sake don't be so greedy to make demos. People have right to taste/use samples. Fashion industry does it, food industry does it, cosmetics, electronics and automotive industries also do it. |
The problem is, that demos are really not all that helpful even if they are there.They're cherry picked and are often not representative. Back when they still used to make demos, they were short, huge to download, and didn't really help all that well in the decision to buy it or not.
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Aug 2016 08:06 Post subject: |
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Yeah but it still showed us if we can run the game on our pc. And it's not like they are not making demos at all. Most of the companies make demos, but not for public. They mostly use demos in E3, gamescom etc. And this cocksuckers make trailers from that demo. Instead of doing so, they can just publish the demo.
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Przepraszam
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Aug 2016 08:37 Post subject: |
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I used to pirate games back in the day coz I had no job.
Fast forward 10 years later. I still pirate the shit out of games. Not because I don't have money. It's because most of the games are mostly shit. Only few are only worth their true cost.
Too bad nobody will give a fuck about "quality" of gaming and just blame it on pc piracy and cycle repeats.
And btw. I'm sure xbox360/ps3 piracy was/is a lot higher then pc.
But talking about console piracy doesn't get the clicks these days, does it?
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Aug 2016 09:49 Post subject: |
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I think the main reason is that there are no more demos hence the ISO Demo was born.
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Aug 2016 09:50 Post subject: |
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@Przepraszam
There is no piracy on consoles.
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