Releasing a release...?
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reddragon105




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Dec 2004 20:03    Post subject: Releasing a release...?
How do I get a release released? (if you see what i mean)

I only ask because i've taken Vengeances DVD release of Half-Life 2, added their updates to include HL2DM and CSS with protocol 7, all working online, and put these files back into cabs, so that when you install the game the updates are already applied.

I've also included Half-Life Source.

I've included all of Vengeances installers, but made my own menu with buttons to click to run each one in turn (for simplicity). the menu also includes options to copy across the HL2DM file before activating it, and the files necessary to play Half-Life Source, so no messing around is required.

Readme files are provided to give clear, concise details on how to install and activate the games, and enable full online play.

I thought a repacked release like this, with the bonus of Half-Life Source and the simple menu to activate everything may be a good release, although it would be about the millionth HL2 release overrall and will probably just need more patching in future.

But i'm just a home user who likes to be organised and i have nothing to do with the scene at all, so i have no idea how to release this, even if it is a good idea
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31337




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Dec 2004 20:18    Post subject:
STOLEN
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6Samiel6




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Dec 2004 20:20    Post subject:
31337 wrote:
STOLEN


Thieves complaining about thieves...



...what a strange world.
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CraX




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Dec 2004 20:23    Post subject:
and the half life source you mention is gcf or is like S.T.A.R.S. release (all files unpacked)?
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reddragon105




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Dec 2004 20:27    Post subject:
how ironic...

are you saying i couldnt do it because im using vengeances release?
well then vengeances release should nuked because its stolen from steam... thieves complaining about thieves indeed

anyway, its hardly ripping off their work when i say its from their release, give them full credit, and include their original nfos is it?
it is, in essence, redistribution of their original dvd release, plus their huge patch for it, plus their smaller update.

im not claiming it for my own, i've just incorporated the updated files for convenience. instead of installing then patching (which takes a while with the 500-odd mb patch) you just have to install.

if vengeance did a repack themselves it wouldnt be stolen would it? but this way, their time is saved for them to go work on another game
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reddragon105




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Dec 2004 20:29    Post subject:
@Crax

its a gcf that gets copied into the SteamApps folder with the rest of the gcfs. the game is run from there, with the exception of a few files that needed to be extracted (as is the case with HL2, CSS and HL2DM of course) that are copied over separately to SteamApps\User\Half-Life Source, and a shortcut placed on the desktop ready to run
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kaine




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Dec 2004 20:30    Post subject:
You forget the small detail that you can't crack... and it would be a lame homemade release plus there will be more updates anyway.
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reddragon105




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PostPosted: Thu, 9th Dec 2004 20:38    Post subject:
i didnt forget that i cant crack - thats why i said i included vengeances cracks.

its not a lame homemade release, its vengeances release repacked.
the only thing homemade is a menu i did in VB that simply links to vengeances installers, there are 4 buttons (HL2, CSS, HL2DM, HLS) and you click on each button in turn.

if you would rather burn their DVD release to DVD, with the 530mb update file separately, install, patch, activate, then fine. but the point of this is for convenience.
it removes the need to patch the game after install, and to browse through 4 different folders to activate the 4 games, and manually copy and paste the gcfs for HL2DM and HLS. thats all

you're forgetting that vengeance took the retail, installed it, activated the gcfs, repacked them into cabs, edited the msi to accept them, and made little programs to activate the games.
thats just as homemade as what i've done - patched the gcfs with vengeances patch, repacked them into new cabs, edited the msi again, and made a little program to run the other little programs
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Oddmaker
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Dec 2004 19:30    Post subject:
IF you did release it, It will be nuked on the spot.


dust.
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nvanw99




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Dec 2004 19:35    Post subject:
2004-12-09 Half-Life 2 Collector's Edition (c) Valve *DVD* PROVISION 58x50 MB 8.6 ????
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Yondaime
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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Dec 2004 21:18    Post subject:
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spindoc8




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Dec 2004 21:50    Post subject: cool
Very cool and mature attitude to answer the raging l22t hackers here:)
I'd apprichiate the release, i'd dl and use it + i could let my 100Mb seed it at full bw for the weekend to get u started.
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Saner




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Dec 2004 21:53    Post subject:
6Samiel6 wrote:
31337 wrote:
STOLEN


Thieves complaining about thieves...



...what a strange world.



Honour amoung thieves......


ragnarus wrote:

I saw things like that in here and in other "woman problems" topics so...... Am I the only one that thinks some authorities needs to be alerted about Saner and him possibly being a rapist and/or kidnapper ?Smile

Saner is not being serious. Unless its the subject of Santa!
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HeroMan




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PostPosted: Fri, 10th Dec 2004 21:54    Post subject:
Smash it usenet, conntact a few fxp teams, e-mail a couple of bittorent site uploaders. Then the release slowly spreads if it is any good.
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mYslead




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Dec 2004 00:34    Post subject:
|nSaNe wrote:
6Samiel6 wrote:
31337 wrote:
STOLEN


Thieves complaining about thieves...



...what a strange world.



Honour amoung thieves......


there is no such thing.
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reddragon105




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Dec 2004 00:35    Post subject:
haha yes, i finish making this and now theres a Collectors Edition release, how handy
except they say the old node graph error might pop up.... and you should just ignore it. why is that exactly? couldnt they get it right as vengeance did?
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psychoace
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Dec 2004 00:36    Post subject:
reddragon105 wrote:
i didnt forget that i cant crack - thats why i said i included vengeances cracks.

its not a lame homemade release, its vengeances release repacked.
the only thing homemade is a menu i did in VB that simply links to vengeances installers, there are 4 buttons (HL2, CSS, HL2DM, HLS) and you click on each button in turn.

if you would rather burn their DVD release to DVD, with the 530mb update file separately, install, patch, activate, then fine. but the point of this is for convenience.
it removes the need to patch the game after install, and to browse through 4 different folders to activate the 4 games, and manually copy and paste the gcfs for HL2DM and HLS. thats all

you're forgetting that vengeance took the retail, installed it, activated the gcfs, repacked them into cabs, edited the msi to accept them, and made little programs to activate the games.
thats just as homemade as what i've done - patched the gcfs with vengeances patch, repacked them into new cabs, edited the msi again, and made a little program to run the other little programs



your forgeting the fact that you stole vengances crack without there permission they worked on doing that emulation and shit and now your going to make your own release with it even if you do give them credit. It's there work do your own shit the scene is not about what crap you can release it's about what you can crack and hack to make shit work. Any 3 year old can put all the updates in a folder and release it that is why 313337 said stolen because your not doing shit
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MaddoxX
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Dec 2004 00:37    Post subject:
reddragon105 wrote:
haha yes, i finish making this and now theres a Collectors Edition release, how handy
except they say the old node graph error might pop up.... and you should just ignore it. why is that exactly? couldnt they get it right as vengeance did?

if it doesnt run trough steam u will get that prob actually it isnt a problem.. you can disable the command but its stupid to do that..
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reddragon105




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Dec 2004 00:45    Post subject:
psychoace wrote:

your forgeting the fact that you stole vengances crack without there permission they worked on doing that emulation and shit and now your going to make your own release with it even if you do give them credit. It's there work do your own shit the scene is not about what crap you can release it's about what you can crack and hack to make shit work. Any 3 year old can put all the updates in a folder and release it that is why 313337 said stolen because your not doing shit


do i need vengeances permission to download and play their release? no
i wouldnt be taking any credit for the release at all, props to vengeance for their work, didnt mean any offence to them
yeh any 3 year old could do it, thats why i said its for convenience
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to81




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Dec 2004 03:01    Post subject:
reddragon105 wrote:

do i need vengeances permission to download and play their release? no
i wouldnt be taking any credit for the release at all, props to vengeance for their work, didnt mean any offence to them
yeh any 3 year old could do it, thats why i said its for convenience


Look mate, what people are trying to tell you is that there are certain rules to go by when you do a proper release of a game on 'the scene'. One of them being that you can't steal other groups' cracks. If you don't play by the rules your release will be nuked, so in your case it's not even worth the effort to try and find out how to release it (to answer your original question).

If you want to share your work with other people - which is very comendable although a few people here are too stuck up to appreciate it - put it on a torrent site or something like that. If there's a need for it, it will surely be downloaded...
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reddragon105




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Dec 2004 03:39    Post subject:
thanks to81, a straightforward response. only you and HeroMan have actually addressed the topic of releasing a release.

i know there are 'official' rules, but what i've made here, i did for myself, a DVD with vengeances release on, plus the extras, for convenience (as i've stressed), and my reason for posting here was just a general wondering about how things get 'officially' released, like say i had made my own crack for a game that hasnt been cracked yet, but i wasnt part of an established group, how would i get it distributed, and get myself recognised by the scene?

as for my Half-Life 2 'release' i know it would get nuked on principle that its vengeances release, but its very unlikely that i'd be able to get in touch with vengeance and say 'hey guys, how about putting out a Collectors edition DVD release?' or even 'hey, i put one together for you to save you the effort as its just a matter of putting files in folders and writing instructions (and a little VB file to copy files from DVD to hard drive for you)'

but now theres a collectors edition release, so i needn't bother, and sadly it seems Steam was updated today so now vengeances release doesn't work online
any word on how provisions release works online?
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Steve-O 2004




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Dec 2004 10:27    Post subject:
reddragon105 wrote:
sadly it seems Steam was updated today so now vengeances release doesn't work online
any word on how provisions release works online?


If you want to play it online, Buy it Razz

I did and its Excellent
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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Dec 2004 10:59    Post subject:
pathetic thread Sad


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blunden




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PostPosted: Sat, 11th Dec 2004 16:09    Post subject:
Where did you get the Hl sorce in gcf format? I sure would like that.
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[sYn]
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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Dec 2004 02:11    Post subject:
psychoace wrote:
your forgeting the fact that you stole vengances crack without there permission they worked on doing that emulation and shit and now your going to make your own release with it even if you do give them credit. It's there work do your own shit the scene is not about what crap you can release it's about what you can crack and hack to make shit work. Any 3 year old can put all the updates in a folder and release it that is why 313337 said stolen because your not doing shit



*nods*

As far as I can see, this says it all. If you want to set something up as a re-pack, thats cool, just dont expect it to appear on Nforce or any similar information source. Also dont expect any respect for it. If your happy with that, all the best to you and simply follow what others have said, make a torrent and upload it . If people care they will download it.
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Darkl0rd




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Dec 2004 04:13    Post subject:
Steve-O 2004 wrote:

If you want to play it online, Buy it Razz

I did and its Excellent


I didn't. I downloaded the Vengeance release, saved 50$ and can play online just like you - even on legit, uncacked servers.

There's no point in buying it. Yes, it's a nice game but it's not worth 50$ and the Vengeance release (with updates) has full online capability.



mYslead wrote:
|nSaNe wrote:



Honour amoung thieves......


there is no such thing.


Wrong.
Honour amoung thieves is the only thing that keeps the warez-scene going.
Crackers don't get paid. They don't make a single $ out of it.
Their only reward is the credit they get for their work. That's why stolen releases are nuked.
If they wern't, then the good crackers will quickly get piss because others conatantly get credit for stealing their work and many will probably leave the scene untill no good crackers are left.
Those wo remain are the ones who steal...they can't crack themselves and now they have noone to steal from. This means 'good by, warez scene'.
Honour amoung thieves has existed in the scene since it's beginning decades ago, and it still does today. It is essential part of the scene's structure.
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Steve-O 2004




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PostPosted: Sun, 12th Dec 2004 09:59    Post subject:
Darkl0rd wrote:
I didn't. I downloaded the Vengeance release, saved 50$ and can play online just like you - even on legit, uncacked servers.

There's no point in buying it. Yes, it's a nice game but it's not worth 50$ and the Vengeance release (with updates) has full online capability.



Maybe it has online play now, But for how long? Steam could update Tomorrow then you will have to wait for a new crack / patch. I will never have to do that Wink




Darkl0rd wrote:
mYslead wrote:
|nSaNe wrote:



Honour amoung thieves......


there is no such thing.


Wrong.
Honour amoung thieves is the only thing that keeps the warez-scene going.


NO, People Buying games is what keeps the warez scene going!!!!! If no one buys the games, then the game companies dont make enough money to make New games, Therefore there will be no games for the crackers to crack!!!!!
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sm0ke




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PostPosted: Thu, 16th Dec 2004 01:15    Post subject:
contact me if you wanna spread that release over my 100mbit US Wink
it will be my pleasure.
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