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Slizza
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 Posted: Tue, 20th Jul 2010 02:37 Post subject: " Radeon HD 6000 is a minor improvement" |
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Smells like nvidias tried and tested rebranding scheme.
http://www.fudzilla.com/graphics/graphics/radeon-hd-6000-is-a-minor-improvement
| Quote: | Tweaked HD 5000 series
ATI’s next generation Southern Islands cores are not promising anything spectacular. It looks like these cores are going to be just a tweak of ATI's existing Radeon HD 5000 series architecture.
This is mainly due the fact that this generation remains developed for 40nm and ATI still doesn’t have any new amazing architecture until 28nm and we have already reported that 28nm cores are coming sometime in 2011.
The release of the first cores based on the new improved generation is planned for October time, but ATI might introduce them in last days of September just to pull wool over investors’ eyes, as if it launches in late September it can still claim that launch took place in Q3 2010. They have already played this trump card with the Radeon HD 5000 series.
With this in mind, Nvidia at least has a fighting chance for back to school and Q4 2010 sales period. At least the graphics market will finally become interesting. |
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Jul 2010 02:41 Post subject: |
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Ah the wonders of lack of competition... 
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Slizza
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Jul 2010 02:48 Post subject: |
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Mehh, there could still be big improvements... i mean the basis of saying that seems to just be that it's on 40nm.
Doesn't go into much detail.
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Jul 2010 09:32 Post subject: |
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fudzilla never goes into much detail the site it a rumour monger of bullshit spread enough and some is bound to be true
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Werelds
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Jul 2010 15:50 Post subject: |
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I stopped caring about Fuad a long time ago. ATI delayed the 28nm parts in order to work on the architecture, and they don't have to fear NVIDIA (yet).
Regardless, it's not as if this wasn't expected? Everyone expected a refresh, not a new architecture.
Without going into detail and bore you to bits though, I don't know what he's basing his statement on. The rumours flying around suggest quite the opposite of what he states, in that there actually are a few quite drastic changes. One we can be almost sure of is that it'll have more tessellation units to catch up with Fermi on that front :E
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Werelds
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Jul 2010 19:05 Post subject: |
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Well yeah, but ATI kind of redid it (relatively) last minute. You do realise they had tessellation engines from HD2xxx onwards right? 
I'm pretty sure ATI will deal with it one way or the other, they've never been the ones to say "that's not an interesting feature" or "we don't need that yet" 
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ixigia
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| Posted: Tue, 20th Jul 2010 19:18 Post subject: |
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It's just an unsurprising and quite predictable consequence due to the fact that the PC market is slave of the consoles.
No one invests in technical advancements anymore, all the PC games are either straight ports or esplicitally dumbed down in order to allow them to run in a prehistoric hardware such as the consoles' one.
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Frant
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| Posted: Wed, 21st Jul 2010 02:19 Post subject: |
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The whole reason this is happening is because the foundries cancelled 32nm development and jumped straight to 28nm. ATI didn't have much choice for the 6000-series, they're basically taking current tech, borrowing some stuff from their 28nm future part (Northern Island tech) and adding more tessellation units (rumors).
| Quote: | Southern Islands is said to be a hybrid between the all new Northern Islands (NI) and the current HD5xxx Evergreen family. Those in the loop say that Northern Islands was meant to be on TSMC 32nm before that process was killed. Due to the ever-slipping nature of TSMC's 28nm high-K metal gate node, the SI hybrid GPU was slapped together to be fabbed on TSMC's current 40nm process.
Sources tell SemiAccurate that SI uses some of the NI uncore (unshader?), and wraps that around a mildly updated Evergreen shader. RAM is more of an open question. NI was set to use GDDR5+, but since DRAM makers might not be ready, we may end up with only GDDR5 on SI. |
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