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JackQ
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 Posted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 15:41 Post subject: Kudo:"hardly anyone plays FPS on PC anymore" |
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| Quote: | Kinect lead designer Kudo Tsunoda has weighed into the decline of PC gaming whilst responding to a question as to how Microsoft are approaching the design of future titles for the new hands-free motion control device.
"If you think about the way that first person shooters evolved, they started on the PC," Tsunoda comments. "People for the longest time tried to port shooters from the PC onto the console. And people said the same things that they are saying now about Kinect - "It's never going to be responsive enough to do this," or "You're never going to get a fun first person shooter on the console - it's only made for a keyboard and mouse and that is the way it is supposed to be played." And as long as everyone was just porting the existing shooters over to console, they weren't as fun as the PC ones. Of course, they were built for the PC."
He continues, "Halo did an awesome job of building a first-person shooter exclusively for the console, and now hardly anyone plays first person shooters on the PC anymore. It's all about the console."
"And I feel it is the same with Kinect stuff. If you are constantly trying to take something that is made for a controller and port it over to Kinect, it's not going to be a good experience because it is made for a controller. If you take the time to build it for Kinect from the ground up, however, you can make something that is a very new experience, but lots of times even more fun than it was before."
In relation to this, NPD announced this morning that PC downloads have surpassed retail figures within the first six months of this year within the US, proving that PC gaming still has plenty of life left in it.
Between January to June alone, 11.2 million games were downloaded in comparison to a further 8.2 million that were sold at retail. Whilst sales for both were reportedly down by 21 per cent, Kudo is perhaps a little too quick to hammer a nail into the PC gaming coffin |
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 15:42 Post subject: Re: Kudo: "hardly anyone plays first person shooters on |
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| Quote: | | "Halo did an awesome job of building a first-person shooter exclusively for the console, and now hardly anyone plays first person shooters on the PC anymore. It's all about the console." |
I feel this deserves "The GIF"
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 15:46 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 15:47 Post subject: |
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hah !
steam statistics.
nuff' said
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 15:49 Post subject: |
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ixigia
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 15:51 Post subject: |
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I stopped reading at
"Kinect lead designer Kudo Tsunoda.."
Come on.. 
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 15:54 Post subject: |
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How Microsoft plans to make the so called 'hardocore gamers' (aka your average Halo/GoW/CoD gamer) buy Kinnect: http://www.gamerzines.com/xbox-360/news/hardcore-gamers-wrong-10-years.html
"I have one thing to say to the hardcore gamer who says Kinect has nothing for them," said Toulouse while discussing concerns about Kinect on Major Nelson's latest podcast. "Those games will have achievements, so don't tell me you're not going to play at least some of them, you hardcore gamers out there. I know you will."
"Let's go back and look at the track record of the hardcore gamer," he continued.
"Shipping a console with an Ethernet port? Oh, it'll never succeed. Paying for multiplayer? Oh no, that's not good. I don't like avatars; I won't buy anything that goes to my avatar. The Wii... I mean no offence hardcore gamers, you've kinda been wrong a lot for the past ten years.
His way of making 360 owners buy Kinect is mocking them for constantly paying for whatever garbage MS asks money for; multiplayer, avatars, etc
Last but not least, he claims that the success of the Wii proves that hardcore gamers are wrong? How the fuck is the Wii a console of the 'hardcore gamers'????
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tonizito
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 16:01 Post subject: |
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LMAO.
| Quote: | "Eurogamer: What are examples of games in your line-up that have those skill-based elements that core gamers love?
Kudo Tsunoda: In Kinect Adventures they have the River Rush game, and there's hundreds of different ways you can go down each of those levels.It's a lot like a platformer game, which in general is a genre core gamers love." |
Don't expect anything else from one of Microsoft's major hipster console s.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 16:06 Post subject: |
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We have a Wii that I play occasionally.
So I suppose technically I could be statistically classed as one of the ones making it a success.
However if you research beyond the stats I only ever play it with the kids and certainly not for my "hardcore" gaming fix.
Console will never take over PC for hardcore gamers, definitely not for FPS.
Console is convenient and easy. That's about it.
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 16:12 Post subject: |
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I absolutely hate this motion control bullcrap wave which was starting with the Wii. People are going to play shooters with that shit now? Fuck off. I'd feel like a moron doing that.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 16:16 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | People are going to play shooters with that shit now? |
Yeah, can't wait to play CoD with my Kinect with that awesome ~100ms lag.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 16:19 Post subject: |
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Kinect was already an unmitigated failure each and every time they've shown it off ... the product is FUBAR and should just be scrapped. Microsoft knows this which is why they're charging $150 for it... to recover as much money from as many suckers as possible.
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 16:23 Post subject: |
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I wonder if kinect is as bad as the wii controller. The wii controller makes me think of Ray Charles trying to play a video game.
Not because of the whole blind thing, but because he's dead.
Mice are awesome.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 16:30 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | "Those games will have achievements"
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Well it's true, I know many retards that buy DLC because, among the meaningful content they add, it gives them 600 more achievement points. 
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 16:32 Post subject: |
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Hi long time lurker first time poster here.
If they want to evolve the fps genre, why not build on the forgotten lightpistol concept? you know, duck hunt and virtua cop. 40+ inch lcd tvs are pretty much standard nowadays right?
Some even have 3d glasses and such.
Dont make me wave my arms to move just give me a mat to step on wich direction i want to go, lean the gun to turn or something like that.
This whole motion sensor thing is simply an overdeveloped idea imo, something that sounds awesome at the board meeting but in reality just gets in the way of simple sensible solutions.
I really miss those types of games and i think it could turn out to be really fun with todays tech + it wouldnt matter much if its a console or pc.
Something like being able to play borderlands with the gun in my hand aiming myself is pretty much the only thing that would make me buy 3d glasses/a vr helmet/motion sensor gear or whatever.
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LeoNatan
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 16:37 Post subject: |
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Well both the WiiMote and Sony Move can work pretty much exactly like the lightgun, but that's not evolution of the FPS genre, sorry. This type of game is just for shooting and nothing else. You can't even move.
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 18:01 Post subject: |
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Lol fail gimmick is fail. Good luck with that fad, dude ...
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 18:03 Post subject: |
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| EwarWoo1 wrote: | ...
Console will never take over PC for hardcore gamers, definitely not for FPS.
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Stupid comment.
To most real hc-gamers it´s not the platform that´s important, it´s the games. There is plenty of challange and fun to be found from even before pc was even found in average joes home.
Minblowing.
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 18:07 Post subject: |
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hardcore gamers dont play consoles...
unless you count anyone who sits on a 360 for 5+ hours a day getting acheivements as a hardcore gamer.
microsoft only shipped a console with an ethernet port because they were to cheap to stick a wifi card inside and wanted people to buy them as an addon lulz
halo was also originally planned as a pc game which is why one of the old voodoo cards had the warthog on the box , then nvidia made the videos that are still on youtube
the guy doesnt have a clue what hes talking about so i will be very happy if he stays the fuck away from pc games
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Nui
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 18:14 Post subject: |
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| snoop1050 wrote: | | hardcore gamers dont play consoles... |
that is bullshit. There are games on the consoles suited for hardcore gamers.
And to find hardcore gamers in statistics seems stupid. Hardcore gamers != average and way smaller in numbers.
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| Posted: Mon, 20th Sep 2010 18:20 Post subject: |
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Bullshit! FPS and RTS play so much better on a PC. It's just too bad they pretty much all suck now.
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