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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Sep 2010 16:06    Post subject: Matrox Tripplehead2Go
So, I bought 3x22" monitors today....and i've had my eyes on this lil gadget for awhile (Subject one). Question is now - is it the best/only one avaible atm or are there others?


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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Sep 2010 16:14    Post subject:
regular th2go features only vga connections
you'll have to get the digital edition for dvi
http://www.widescreengamingforum.com/wiki/TH2Go_FAQ

there's a few other options for triple screen gaming but it's probably the most compatible
i personally use softth for my needs as i also have non-matching screen resolutions but it usually takes some configuring to get it fully functional
th2go should be fairly plug&go, though overly expensive for it's purpose in my opinino
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Sep 2010 16:21    Post subject:
Yeah, its the dvi version ive been resting my eyes on. Im already using 2 monitors with the 2 ports on my card - but as Im to use 3 I do need th2go to get it to work fully Smile


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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Sep 2010 17:32    Post subject:
I think the best thing available for that are the Radeons with Eyefinity support. Seems to have a better feature set and better resolution support. More expensive though (for gaming at least), but if you are going for this kind of a system it's worth looking into.
At least one screen will need the Display Port though, or you'll need an adapter.
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Sep 2010 19:10    Post subject:
That's old (came out like Feb or March), better to wait for the new cards. They won't need you to use a DP->DVI convertor anymore, and they've got a couple of extra benefits Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Sep 2010 20:29    Post subject:
Anyway, Im using gtx260 and I don't plan on changing card as it works great for me. So thats why I need the Matrox Tripplehead2Go


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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Sep 2010 20:43    Post subject:
Then why make it so hard on yourself, if you've got a decent enough PSU you can pick up a second hand 260 for around 100, or even get a brandnew one for about 170-180. Stuff that in next to your existing 260, and you can use NVIDIA's Surround instead. That's still cheaper than the TripleHead2Go, and it gives you the extra performance you'll need to really use that resolution for gaming.

I definitely wouldn't run 3 monitors using a 280 euro gadget off a single GTX 260 at least, I can't imagine that being a particularly smooth experience Razz
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Sep 2010 21:20    Post subject:
are you planning on gaming on the resolution of the 3 monitors? I can't see a gtx 260 being able to handle that


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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Sep 2010 21:34    Post subject:
pwerelds wrote:
Then why make it so hard on yourself, if you've got a decent enough PSU you can pick up a second hand 260 for around 100, or even get a brandnew one for about 170-180. Stuff that in next to your existing 260, and you can use NVIDIA's Surround instead. That's still cheaper than the TripleHead2Go, and it gives you the extra performance you'll need to really use that resolution for gaming.

I definitely wouldn't run 3 monitors using a 280 euro gadget off a single GTX 260 at least, I can't imagine that being a particularly smooth experience Razz


Actually, ive seen it run pretty damn good on my card using 3 screens. So i'm really not worried Smile besides, the reason I want this gadget is for future upgrades of my gfx card..perhaps end of next year or so.


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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Sep 2010 21:50    Post subject:
Even less reason to buy a gadget that costs 280 euros then, since every card from both NVIDIA and ATI will have support for multiple monitors natively by that time. At the moment NVIDIA is behind because they need multiple cards to make it work, but they'll have fixed that by that time. ATI already support up to 3 monitors per card on every 5xxx card that's useful for gaming. There's even the 5870 Eyefinity 6 linked above which can do 6 monitors off a single card.

The TH2GO is only useful for people who have a relatively old system that needs to drive three monitors for purposes other than gaming. For other users it really is way too expensive at 280 euros. Hell, for 280 euros you can just buy a 5850 and get better performance out of it and still get the triple monitor support :/


As far as performance goes: your 260 won't handle a title like Metro, Crysis or even BF:BC2 at that resolution. A title like GRID (and thus Dirt2; GRID performance is not impacted by Eyefinity in any way on my 5870) will probably work just fine, but even with my 5870 there are limits as to what I can run off of it. I was planning to do a Crysis bench run in a few minutes anyway, I'll enable Eyefinity and test it through that as well, so I'll give you some numbers.
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Sep 2010 22:02    Post subject:
Well, I wasnt planning on running it at max resolution mate Smile but thanks for sharing your thoughts! (btw, the first 2 games you mentioned are nothing Im bothered with)


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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Sep 2010 22:05    Post subject:
Btw - I forgot to ask. So if I should by a XFX Radeon HD 5870 2GB EYEFINITY 6 or similar - it has enough ports for more than 2 monitors?

(I might aswell liste to you lot abit - so feel free to suggest similar solutions. Not getting the Matrox Tripplehead2Go yet anyway as I cannot afford it..so feel free to suggest similar things. And as I said, ive got a 2gb gtx260 card atm which imo works great. No problems with any games)


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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Sep 2010 22:16    Post subject:
Ankh wrote:
Btw - I forgot to ask. So if I should by a XFX Radeon HD 5870 2GB EYEFINITY 6 or similar - it has enough ports for more than 2 monitors?

(I might aswell liste to you lot abit - so feel free to suggest similar solutions. Not getting the Matrox Tripplehead2Go yet anyway as I cannot afford it..so feel free to suggest similar things. And as I said, ive got a 2gb gtx260 card atm which imo works great. No problems with any games)


The EyeFinity 6 means it supports 6 monitors Wink
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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Sep 2010 22:18    Post subject:
Yeah I noticed, but when I checked a picture of one it had just 2 DVI ports? (but tons of others).

So let me see if I got this straight - if I buy one that says "supports 3 monitors" (or more) i can use all ports on it and get a game to spread over all monitors no problem? (I mean, its not like its now that I can select either clone or just another screen to use...right?).

If so, please suggest cards so I know what to save for (in similar range of the TH2G ofc)


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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Sep 2010 22:21    Post subject:
I know it's noobish questions - but since ive decided to get 3 screens I'd like to know the best alternatives Smile


Edit: Also, it's not just for gaming I want this. I'm doing shitloads of other stuff and need lots of space.


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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Sep 2010 22:36    Post subject:
Well, not running it at the proper resolution will make it look shit, you kind of want all 3 monitors to run at their native resolution Smile

When do you want this setup?

Reason I'm asking is because ATI are releasing the HD6 series in october, november and december, meaning prices of current cards will drop. I think it's wisest for you to just wait for that to happen, either that or you pick up a second GTX 260 Smile

As far as ports go, all HD5 cards come with 4 ports: 2 DVI, 1 HDMI and 1 DisplayPort. You can use 3 out of 4, but there's a little catch: one of the 3 HAS to be the DisplayPort. That's not much of an issue, just means you have to buy a 20 euro DP->HDMI/DVI adapter which came out like a week ago if your monitor doesn't have a DP. The only exception is the 5870 Eyefinity 6, which comes with 6 DisplayPorts. Once you enable it, you won't have "clone" or "extend" anymore, your 3 monitors will be seen as a single monitor, so every game SHOULD support it - if they support the resolution. Most games do, just some old ones don't.

Edit: I only mentioned ATI above btw, with their DP limitation. NVIDIA's limitation is that you need 2 cards in SLI to do it.


Now, I'll give you some performance numbers anyway, so you get an idea of how things would run on your card; note, I've got a 22" 1080p monitor, and a 20" 1680x1050 monitor, so my resolution is actually not even 2/3rds of what you would have. Ignore the spoiler if you really don't care about performance numbers.

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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Sep 2010 22:43    Post subject:
I'm very very thankful for this information tbh Smile very nice indeed! cheers!

I do need to save up some cash first, so as You said - I should wait for the new ones to be released so the prices drop. However, apart from the fact that Im to wait - which cards would you suggest?


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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Sep 2010 22:48    Post subject:

http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/radeon-5870-eyefinity6,2595.html

Seems like 6 HDMI.


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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Sep 2010 22:49    Post subject:
@Ankh
I can tell you when the new cards come Razz

It's still unknown how good or bad they are and when EXACTLY they are launched, but if the rumours are correct:
- 6750/6770 in October; 6770 being as fast as a 5870, but priced at or under the $200 mark
- 6850/6870 in November; 6870 being as fast as 5970, priced at the $300 mark
- 6970 (dual-gpu) in December; being so fast that you can run 2 copies of the crappy console ports we get at the same time

If the above things are correct, I would suggest getting the 6770, but we really don't know how fast these things are going to be. All performance estimates are exactly that: estimates, based on GPU-Z data from leaked screenshots.

Even if the above is not correct, the 5870 should drop way below the $300 mark, which would make it an excellent choice, since it still handles every game out there without problems Smile

Can you hold out for another 6-8 weeks? Very Happy


Edit @iconized:
No, that's 6 DisplayPort-to-HDMI adapters Smile

This one is what one would get now. Priced at $29.99 I believe Smile


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PostPosted: Sat, 4th Sep 2010 22:53    Post subject:
Ankh wrote:
Yeah I noticed, but when I checked a picture of one it had just 2 DVI ports? (but tons of others).

So let me see if I got this straight - if I buy one that says "supports 3 monitors" (or more) i can use all ports on it and get a game to spread over all monitors no problem? (I mean, its not like its now that I can select either clone or just another screen to use...right?).

If so, please suggest cards so I know what to save for (in similar range of the TH2G ofc)


the six screen version comes with 6 display ports and obviously you'll need monitors that support that or adapters


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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Sep 2010 13:21    Post subject:
ASUS Radeon HD 5870 2GB EYEFINITY 6PCI-Express 2.0, GDDR5, 6x mini-DisplayPort, "Voltage Tweak", 850MHz <- so I got myself one of those. Well, it will arrive tomorrow. Let's hope its any good Smile


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PostPosted: Wed, 29th Sep 2010 14:19    Post subject:
Got the DP adapters as well or do your monitors support DP?
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Oct 2010 00:58    Post subject:
pwerelds wrote:
@Ankh
I can tell you when the new cards come Razz

It's still unknown how good or bad they are and when EXACTLY they are launched, but if the rumours are correct:
- 6750/6770 in October; 6770 being as fast as a 5870, but priced at or under the $200 mark
- 6850/6870 in November; 6870 being as fast as 5970, priced at the $300 mark
- 6970 (dual-gpu) in December; being so fast that you can run 2 copies of the crappy console ports we get at the same time

If the above things are correct, I would suggest getting the 6770, but we really don't know how fast these things are going to be. All performance estimates are exactly that: estimates, based on GPU-Z data from leaked screenshots.

Even if the above is not correct, the 5870 should drop way below the $300 mark, which would make it an excellent choice, since it still handles every game out there without problems Smile

Can you hold out for another 6-8 weeks? Very Happy


Edit @iconized:
No, that's 6 DisplayPort-to-HDMI adapters Smile

This one is what one would get now. Priced at $29.99 I believe Smile


There has been no reliable benchmark at all from these new radeons, and i can say for sure that "IF" 6870 would match 5970 performance, it sure would not cost 300 dollars lol. This is complete bullshit. From what i have heard and saw from interwebz, 6xxx series is just refreshed 5xxx series with less power consumption and little more peformance to their counterparts.
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Oct 2010 12:15    Post subject:
We'll see Smile

The 'stuff' you read must come from one of the NVIDIA-oriented sites, because they're complete bullshit and impossible. NI (Northern Island, AKA HD6xxx) is built on a 40nm process just like Evergreen (aka HD5xxx), and thus it will be at least as big, power consuming and hot as that. The only thing that might tip the scales a bit is if the rumours about going back to 4D shaders (vs 5D shaders in Evergreen) are true, in which case they should be able to get the same performance off a smaller die. My guess: the top chips will be sitting in between Cypress and GF100 in terms of heat/power consumption/size, but perform better than GF100.

If that shader rumour is true then the relative performance difference will also be bigger than a "little" more though - and it likely is to be true as the 5D shaders in Evergreen are hardly used, and it's a rumour that's been popping up since early this year.
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Oct 2010 12:20    Post subject:
Ankh wrote:
ASUS Radeon HD 5870 2GB EYEFINITY 6PCI-Express 2.0, GDDR5, 6x mini-DisplayPort, "Voltage Tweak", 850MHz <- so I got myself one of those. Well, it will arrive tomorrow. Let's hope its any good Smile

Tell us and show some pictures! Smile
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PostPosted: Fri, 1st Oct 2010 17:02    Post subject:
iconized wrote:
Ankh wrote:
ASUS Radeon HD 5870 2GB EYEFINITY 6PCI-Express 2.0, GDDR5, 6x mini-DisplayPort, "Voltage Tweak", 850MHz <- so I got myself one of those. Well, it will arrive tomorrow. Let's hope its any good Smile

Tell us and show some pictures! Smile


will do Smile

pwerelds wrote:
Got the DP adapters as well or do your monitors support DP?


It had adapters Smile just connected it - need to rearrange my place to fit the 3 monitors (will get 3 more next year).


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