[XBOX360] Nov2010 new dashboard, new checks ?
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bill_the_one




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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010 20:36    Post subject: [XBOX360] Nov2010 new dashboard, new checks ?
Hi guys,

I don't want to be pessimistic but i've read on several french xbox360 forums that the new games (Fable 3, Sims3) don't boot on the new dashboard (they are on the last beta dashboard, but high risk it stays like that with the official release)

To summarize:

With old dashboard, old and new backup work.
With new dashboard, old backup work but new ones don't boot...

Looks like new ISO games include new security information that only the new dashboard check ? Future will tell ...
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010 20:38    Post subject:
good thing i never updated then Smug
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010 20:42    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
good thing i never updated then Smug
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010 20:43    Post subject:
Yeah, but games released after the new dash, will probably require the new dash. Only reason I've ever updated my 360.

Mortibus wrote:
good thing i never updated then Smug


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bill_the_one




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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010 20:46    Post subject:
Just to add:

The guy who made these trials is on the 12607 beta dashboard and made the experiment on 2 different xbox who have different drives (both LT 1.1)

Weird...
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010 20:51    Post subject:
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ITRUK




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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010 21:04    Post subject:
From what ive read on XS, people with the official beta dash arn't having any problems. But those who's installed the leaked version are having issues. Possibly because it doesn't have certain avatar features.
These should be rectified once the new dash is rolled out, they can properly update and then get back to normal.

I could be wrond though..
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010 21:20    Post subject:
Jtag FTW Cool Face
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010 21:29    Post subject:
Sims 3 boots perfect on new dash its only Fable.
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Mr_Baggins




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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010 21:37    Post subject:
Why does this stupid Microshit even bother with new checks? It's just the matter of updating the firmware. Don't they EVER learn, that people WILL use backups?


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010 22:01    Post subject:
fable doesnt boot for me and ive got the official beta dash. my drive has lt1.2 on it now, tried with ixtreme 1.6 non stealth and didnt work with that either. might be cos my liteon died and im using as benq thats spoofed as a liteon. also used the xval program and it says failed the api 25 challenge (if i remember right).


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010 22:39    Post subject:
Mr_Baggins wrote:
Why does this stupid Microshit even bother with new checks? It's just the matter of updating the firmware. Don't they EVER learn, that people WILL use backups?

I think they have been pretty good with the whole thong TBH, especially compared to Sony that will soon sue their own mothers. Can´t blame MS for making it harder can we?
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010 22:49    Post subject:
Mr_Baggins wrote:
Why does this stupid Microshit even bother with new checks? It's just the matter of updating the firmware. Don't they EVER learn, that people WILL use backups?


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010 23:40    Post subject:
Did the users who tried to play Fable 3 and couldn't, did you have an error something like "Failed AP25 Challenge"? If yes then it's certain.. MS did it Laughing they finally integrated that anti-piracy shit..


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010 23:43    Post subject:
OranosTheMighty wrote:
Did the users who tried to play Fable 3 and couldn't, did you have an error something like "Failed AP25 Challenge"? If yes then it's certain.. MS did it Laughing they finally integrated that anti-piracy shit..


I believe it's a generic "Disc Unreadable" message.


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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010 23:45    Post subject:
Yeah, the average enduser will NEVER see that AP25 message, it's buried in the internal logs on the 360. You need certain tools and know-how to even get access - so while it could be the AntiPiracy 2.5 bit raising it's ugly head... the average person will never know and will just see "Disk is unreadable" error.
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PostPosted: Tue, 26th Oct 2010 23:46    Post subject:
armando99 wrote:
Sims 3 boots perfect on new dash its only Fable.
must really suck, because Fable 3 is awesome Very HappyVery HappyVery Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 00:29    Post subject:

Looks like Anti-Piracy 2.5 challenges are sent....and that ain't implemented in any ixtreme yet "because there was no need" said c4eva way back in the stoneage. Why does it work for someone? Again, c4eva said that not all drives support it (old ones don't) and that it's not easy to properly implement from MSs side.

If it really turns out to be a real threat then I'm guessing C4 will spit out a new fw version but not until he "feels" it's ready like that long silent period with LT aka enough users get banned, the dust settles and then you get a "safe" fw. That guy is working with M$ I tell ya Razz Razz
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 00:38    Post subject:
Remember, AP25 is not supported by all drives Wink
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 00:41    Post subject:
You can bet it's supported by our LiteOns though, eh Sev? Sad
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 00:49    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
You can bet it's supported by our LiteOns though, eh Sev? Sad
Not sure mate. This is what I found: http://www.xbox-scene.com/xbox1data/sep/EkupFVFuluBaVkSRMq.php

Some time ago obviously.
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 00:52    Post subject:
Ah well, I'm expecting a ban pretty soon anyhow.. and once AP25 really does start hitting people, c4eva will just patch it again.
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 00:57    Post subject:
If a console gets banned there is no possibility to unban it? Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 01:06    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
Ah well, I'm expecting a ban pretty soon anyhow.. and once AP25 really does start hitting people, c4eva will just patch it again.


And this is why i wonder why the hell they bother.
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 01:15    Post subject:
The same reason why they put out WPA, yet it gets cracked within seconds by the most simple of boot loaders; they have to show their stockholders that they're doing SOMETHING. In reality? MS don't really give a rat's ass if you hack their Xbox or pirate their OS .. because every person that owns either, or both, is just another plus on their market share Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 01:53    Post subject:
the only real protection that consoles can get is on-line activation, now crack that hackers Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 01:57    Post subject:
Mortibus wrote:
the only real protection that consoles can get is on-line activation, now crack that hackers Very Happy


What, you mean like Ubisoft's online protection? Yeah... you're right, that'll never be cracked. Damn Sad
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Mortibus




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 01:59    Post subject:
and that too Cool Face

then again i'm sure alot of derps will be unhappy Laughing
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Gargamel198024




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 02:41    Post subject:
I have the Official Dash preview and still on 1.6. Fable 3 Boots fine for me. I have no issues with any games to be honest.


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revdirty




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Oct 2010 03:43    Post subject:
Well i have the leaked dash and fable 3 boots just fine. then again, my xbox doesnt go online and i wavepatch all my games down to wave 3 anyway


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