The Death of Sealth
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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 06:55    Post subject: The Death of Sealth


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Stealth games as we know them are dying and, rather ironically, you may not have even noticed. It’s been a slow decline for the shadow skulking, light destroying genre, but they simply don’t get made that much any more. What used to be powerful franchises are now little but fond memories or warped variations of what once was. So, what happened?

Well, let’s go back to the start first and do a whistle-stop tour. Not the very start, but probably the most important year in stealth gaming - 1998. It was the year that two very important games launched - Thief: The Dark Project and Metal Gear Solid, both of which would define the genre for years to come.


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Thief, MGS and Hitman were completely different games in all respects bar their core idea which departed from the gaming norm - one guy can not take on a small army unless he’s smart about it.




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kouga




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 06:58    Post subject:
Sealth who?
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Neon
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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 08:22    Post subject:
I pretty much agree with the article, though I don't agree that Splinter Cell: Conviction was a great game, but it wasn't Splinter Cell.

No, it wasn't a great game. It was a disaster. I hope Michael Ironside will stop doing voice-overs so that the brand would just die with little honor that is left.
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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 09:42    Post subject:
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human_steel




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 09:44    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:
who the fuck is sealth?

Nobody knows. It's Stealth after all.
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 10:10    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 11:17    Post subject:
Zed's dead baby, Zed's dead.
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Maus0r




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 12:14    Post subject:
Stealthy T is stealthy.

Edit: I've looked at the word so many times in this thread, it no longer has any meaning. Weird that.
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Epsilon
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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 12:23    Post subject:
I remember that one fondly, still got the first two on my shelf.
I would not single out this specific genre and say it's dying though, I'd rather say that in depth gaming is dying. As everything is turning casual these days, with quick to pickup gaming with no real depth but nice graphics.


Here is a picture of the shelf these games are on.

Smug
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 12:31    Post subject:
I was looking for a smug image for u epsilon but there isnt one that has a big enough smug look to suit lol Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 12:36    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:
I was looking for a smug image for u epsilon but there isnt one that has a big enough smug look to suit lol Smile

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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 12:44    Post subject:
The stealth games are almost dead, but there's still some decent ones like Death to Spies and Death to Spies: Moment of Truth.


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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 13:16    Post subject:
good pic epsilon Very Happy and very fitting oh mr retro game collector..
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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 14:15    Post subject:
Epsilon wrote:
I remember that one fondly, still got the first two on my shelf.
I would not single out this specific genre and say it's dying though, I'd rather say that in depth gaming is dying. As everything is turning casual these days, with quick to pickup gaming with no real depth but nice graphics.

Here is a picture of the shelf these games are on.

Smug


I see game boxes but no shelf. This is a shelf -

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ixigia
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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 15:08    Post subject:
Stealth games require to use brain and plan an intelligent strategic approach to enemies: these two features can't be applied when the player is sitting on a couch pretending to be invincible.
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 15:38    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
Stealth games require to use brain and plan an intelligent strategic approach to enemies: these two features can't be applied when the player is sitting on a couch pretending to be invincible.


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SpykeZ




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 16:06    Post subject:
CompuGeek wrote:
Epsilon wrote:
I remember that one fondly, still got the first two on my shelf.
I would not single out this specific genre and say it's dying though, I'd rather say that in depth gaming is dying. As everything is turning casual these days, with quick to pickup gaming with no real depth but nice graphics.

Here is a picture of the shelf these games are on.

Smug


I see game boxes but no shelf. This is a shelf -



This is like .2% of this collection lol.

Epsilon I demand you post the holy grail picture of games


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Atropa




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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 16:54    Post subject:
I threw my thief box out just last year(didn't go well with living on 14 m^2). Is that shit worth money? System shock and quake box long gone though.
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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 17:09    Post subject:
out of all the games you got sin in there... seriously? Laughing it's the worst game out of all of those... should've put in kingpin in there. Razz Though i did enjoy sin as much as the next guy and had a teenage boner for Elexis Sad

stealth isn't dead. and it will never die. the approach to stealth is constantly changing though. just like fps died when the USE button was introduced to interact with enviroment. And then it died again when physics became a major part. and it died after that with autoaim and derp controls.

Gaming genres don't die. They just progress either for worse or for better.


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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 17:27    Post subject:
Epsilon wrote:




Das Keyboard? Very Happy
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ixigia
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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 17:57    Post subject:
Ishkur123 wrote:
Epsilon wrote:




Das Keyboard? Very Happy


Labels are for pussies Razz
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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 17:57    Post subject:
the "t" is hiding
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PostPosted: Tue, 2nd Nov 2010 17:57    Post subject:
CompuGeek wrote:

This is a shelf -



I see indeed a shelf, with a huge load of shit on it.
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Nov 2010 20:36    Post subject:
CompuGeek wrote:
Epsilon wrote:
I remember that one fondly, still got the first two on my shelf.
I would not single out this specific genre and say it's dying though, I'd rather say that in depth gaming is dying. As everything is turning casual these days, with quick to pickup gaming with no real depth but nice graphics.

Here is a picture of the shelf these games are on.

Smug


I see game boxes but no shelf. This is a shelf -




bioforge was a masterpice. But the sshocks...well by me would be: CAN that bioshock 2 and remake a new system shock 1 AND 2! great games eps, excelente selection, good to see Blood 1 there too, the only game were youd kill muttering sinatra lines Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Nov 2010 20:39    Post subject:
PLEASE edit the title Spykey! I keep seeing "Death of Sealth" Razz
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Hfric




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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Nov 2010 21:38    Post subject:

now that's epic
Code:
'NO
ROCKET LUNCHER
....
NO
BIO-ARMOR
....
JUST SKILL
THE DARK
....
AND A FEW ARROWS"


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PostPosted: Fri, 5th Nov 2010 21:47    Post subject:
Hfric wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGRVuWpZ9lE
now that's epic
Code:
'NO
ROCKET LUNCHER
....
NO
BIO-ARMOR
....
JUST SKILL
THE DARK
....
AND A FEW ARROWS"

You're right of course, I also reevaluated how I positioned stuff on my shelf according to gameplay, a more complete picture can be seen in the show off your pc games collection thread.
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