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ixigia
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 Posted: Tue, 30th Nov 2010 16:38 Post subject: New Monitor |
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Ok guys I'd like to buy a new 24'' monitor, but my budget is only 250€ max..
I'll use it only for gaming and watching movies 
After some googling I found some monitors:
Samsung SyncMaster P2470H
| Quote: | Screen size 24 inches
Panel type TN
Resolution 1920 x 1080
Response time 2 ms
Contrast Ratio (dynamic): 70000:1 |
~230€
http://www.digitalversus.com/samsung-syncmaster-p2470h-p357_8128_36.html
ASUS VW246H
| Quote: | Screen size 24 inches
Panel type TN
Resolution 1920 x 1080
Response time 2 ms
Contrast Ratio (dynamic): 20000:1 |
~200€
http://lcdcomputermonitorsinfo.com/asus-vw246h/
I couldn't find anything else at that price  (I focalized my research on monitors with high responsiveness and decent quality).
What do you think, any feedbacks/suggestions? I'm quite noob when it comes to monitors 
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Nov 2010 16:42 Post subject: |
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ixigia
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Nov 2010 16:45 Post subject: |
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| human_steel wrote: | | What's your current one? |
A Samsung Syncmaster 204b (4:3, 20.1''), but it's giving me some problems so I'm deciding to replace it |
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Nov 2010 16:57 Post subject: |
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The monitors you've posted are good. If you're not pretentious over image quality (i.e. you're not an animator, artist, graphical designer who requires pristine and qualitative imagery), just pick one up of the above two closest to your liking. TN matrix is just about right when it comes to gaming, movies and internet browsing. Plus, given that your budget is limited, these two are quite a good deal. Personally, I'd latch the Samsung ...
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Nov 2010 17:38 Post subject: |
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ixigia is limited on budget, so I'd go with Samsung too. But make sure to check reviews to see if all revisions are good. Sometimes some revisions are not as good as the others.
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ixigia
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Nov 2010 18:05 Post subject: |
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Thanks guys for the fast replies
I think I'll choose the Samsung; the user reviews are definitely positive as well as the experts' ones, also I like the aesthetic design of the P2470H
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Nov 2010 18:17 Post subject: |
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Love the acer i got now, the 8000000:1 contrast white led backlighting is amazing on my eyes..
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Nov 2010 20:17 Post subject: |
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| pwerelds wrote: | | iNatan wrote: | | ixigia is limited on budget, so I'd go with Samsung too. But make sure to check reviews to see if all revisions are good. Sometimes some revisions are not as good as the others. |
This. Make sure you check the EXACT model number on the box ixigia. Samsung often replace their panels with inferior ones for the retail version |
sometimes a not so great revision can be altered via the engineers panel as well though + with a decent profile..
the 226bw's had the panel difference shit as well from some not coming out of the main samsung site but made elsewhere and inferior slightly. |
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Werelds
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Nov 2010 20:29 Post subject: |
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No I'm talking from switching from a good panel like Samsung's own to something shit like Philips. No fiddling or profile can fix those 
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ixigia
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| Posted: Tue, 30th Nov 2010 22:11 Post subject: |
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I didn't know that they could do such a mean procedure 
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Dec 2010 01:46 Post subject: |
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Go for a 120hz LCD. Not just for 3d vision but for the refresh rate. It makes everything look sexy smooth
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Dec 2010 01:54 Post subject: |
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| Mortibus wrote: | u can't tell the difference between 60 and 120 fps unless u use it in 3d and don't say u actually can and u have somekinda super vision or something  |
This is exactly what every person with a 60hz monitor will always say. Obviously youve never gamed on 60hz+ CRT monitor
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Dec 2010 02:01 Post subject: |
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| Mortibus wrote: | err sure i did, what's your point?
i just get screen tearing in some games, that's the only sign that game runs above 60fps for me
v-sync fixing that naturally |
The reason you get screen tearing is because your monitor is only capable of refreshing at 60hz while your game is displaying 60+fps. Vsync locks your max fps to your refresh rate (60 for you) so you dont see any tearing. In other words, you cant see anything past 60fps using your monitor
http://www.overclock.net/monitors-displays/662628-60hz-vs-120hz-explained.html
@ 60hz monitors
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Dec 2010 02:05 Post subject: |
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considering human eye can't catch anything beyond 24 fps, sure 
it's just for gaming 60 fps is a must for maximum eye rest, some engines can pull out smoothness even with 30 fps
taken from your own link
| Quote: | | If the primary application of you display is gaming, I suggest against purchasing a 120hz[HDTV]. The benefit of 120hz technology in 120hz LCD HDTVs will not be utilized in gaming applications. The reason for this is, a 120hz LCD HDTV refreshes at 120hz, although, it will only accept a 60hz or lower input[even if they did accept 120hz inputs, it would simply render it at 60hz and double the frames; 60hz x2=120 instead of TRUE 120hz. In other words, 120hz LCD HDTVs are not TRUE 120hz displays]. Consequently, even if you are gaming at above 120 frames per second, you will not gain the benefit of seeing those additional frames. |
so yeah, like i said gbye
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Dec 2010 02:10 Post subject: |
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| Mortibus wrote: | considering human eye can't catch anything beyond 24 fps, sure
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HAHAHAHAHA wow. Youre serious?
How am I (the guy who washes laptop screen with soap) the only person who isn't clueless about refresh rates
ixigia, do yourself a favor and research 120Hz vs 60hz before purchasing your new monitor instead of listening to these biased comments
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Dec 2010 02:13 Post subject: |
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| Mortibus wrote: | considering human eye can't catch anything beyond 24 fps, sure
it's just for gaming 60 fps is a must for maximum eye rest, some engines can pull out smoothness even with 30 fps
taken from your own link
| Quote: | | If the primary application of you display is gaming, I suggest against purchasing a 120hz[HDTV]. The benefit of 120hz technology in 120hz LCD HDTVs will not be utilized in gaming applications. The reason for this is, a 120hz LCD HDTV refreshes at 120hz, although, it will only accept a 60hz or lower input[even if they did accept 120hz inputs, it would simply render it at 60hz and double the frames; 60hz x2=120 instead of TRUE 120hz. In other words, 120hz LCD HDTVs are not TRUE 120hz displays]. Consequently, even if you are gaming at above 120 frames per second, you will not gain the benefit of seeing those additional frames. |
so yeah, like i said gbye |
Again another clueless comment. What youre referring to is image interpolation which HDTV's use(60hz input, 120hz output). True 120hz LCD monitor dont use interpolation. A true 120hz Monitor can take an input of 120hz and output 120Hz.
Read before posting kid
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Dec 2010 02:17 Post subject: |
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again for the brain dead
if u intend to use your monitor for 3d get 120 and above, if not don't
simple as that
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Dec 2010 02:24 Post subject: |
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| Mortibus wrote: | again for the brain dead
if u intend to use your monitor for 3d get 120 and above, if not don't
simple as that |
No such "above" unless youre referring to 120hz+ HDTV using interpolation (fake 240hz)
Enjoy your permanent 60fps cap
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ixigia
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| Posted: Thu, 9th Dec 2010 02:35 Post subject: |
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@Timechange: My order will arrive in ~48 hours (208€ + 10€ for shipping was the best I could find here)
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