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 Posted: Sat, 6th Sep 2014 08:48 Post subject: 4K HDR Blu-Ray discs and player coming early 2016 |
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http://www.blu-ray.com/news/?id=14923
| Quote: | | Apart from the jump to 4K resolution (3840 × 2160p) we can also expect 4K Blu-ray to support higher frame rates (up to 60fps), an expanded color gamut along with high dynamic range (HDR), as well as HEVC/H.265 encoding to compress 4K movies more efficiently and allow for higher bit rates. The group is currently exploring the possibility of increasing the disc capacity to 66GB or 100GB. |
Can't wait for the 2GB YIFY 4K 48fps rips of the 2K DI'd Hobbit movies upscaled by the studio!
 Spoiler: | I'm actually excited for a few movies |
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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Przepraszam
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Sep 2014 08:57 Post subject: |
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Rejoice!
That 300GB cap will serve me well for a movie or two.
So.Fucking.Excited.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Sep 2014 09:19 Post subject: |
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Yes! Finally I'll be able to watch them on my super cool 4K moni... oh wait... 
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Sep 2014 09:33 Post subject: |
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I can hardly find space to store 720p\1080p bluray rips...and now this! 
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Sep 2014 11:00 Post subject: |
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About fucking time! I'm sick of watching movies in 2K, looks like shit!
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Il_Padrino
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Sep 2014 12:57 Post subject: |
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Couldn't care less about 4K to be honest, but I'm happy they're FINALLY going to support 60 FPS. The impact of this will be huge compared to 'just' another resolution improvement.
There must have been a door there in the wall, when I came in.
Truly gone fishing.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Sep 2014 13:01 Post subject: |
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Once x265 matures, 4K encodes will not be as large as you might mistakenly imagine.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Sep 2014 13:45 Post subject: |
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@LeoNatan it is still in the early stages of development, doesn't support features x264 has, buggy and EXTREMELY SLOW. We need considerably more powerful CPUs and Intel has been slacking for a while now.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Sep 2014 14:16 Post subject: |
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| h0rnyfavn wrote: | | @LeoNatan it is still in the early stages of development, doesn't support features x264 has, buggy and EXTREMELY SLOW. We need considerably more powerful CPUs and Intel has been slacking for a while now. |
| LeoNatan wrote: | | Once x265 matures |
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Also, current Intel CPUs (Ivy Bridge-E, Haswell-E) have been improving encode times considerably due to IPC optimizations and additional cores. Who's been slacking is AMD, who has thrown the towel and stopped competing. |
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Sep 2014 16:10 Post subject: |
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| bart5986 wrote: | | 4K content surprisingly looks amazing on a good quality 1080p screen as well though... |
Uhm, on a 1080p display, you are better off with a studio encode of 1080p, rather than feeding it 4K source and letting it or your player doing the rescaling. On anything above 1080p, 4K is preferable, of course.
| bart5986 wrote: | | I think a 4k tv in your lounge room is pointless unless its 60"+ |
Yes, yes, same tired and incorrect argument of 1080p vs. 720p. No. |
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Sep 2014 16:15 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | bart5986 wrote: | | 4K content surprisingly looks amazing on a good quality 1080p screen as well though... |
Uhm, on a 1080p display, you are better off with a studio encode of 1080p, rather than feeding it 4K source and letting it or your player doing the rescaling. On anything above 1080p, 4K is preferable, of course. |
I was making a point about how something looks, I'm not trying to talk about tech specs or how to make things look better.
My point is if you take the 4k footage from the shop and put it on a decent 1080p a lot of people will think that 1080p screen is 4k.
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thudo
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Sep 2014 16:25 Post subject: |
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4K?!?!? Passhhhhhhhhh..
8K is on the way and its..
Oh wait.. 12K is being spec'ed out and its gonna be..
FORMATS KEEP CHANGING TOO FAST! GAHHH!!!!!! 
TOO.. MUCH.. INNOVATIONS!!!!!! 
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Sep 2014 17:14 Post subject: |
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Too fast, what the fuck you talking about? Go watch a movie with subtitles, err, read a book.
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Sep 2014 17:46 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | bart5986 wrote: | | I think a 4k tv in your lounge room is pointless unless its 60"+ |
Yes, yes, same tired and incorrect argument of 1080p vs. 720p. No. |
Reminds me of this:
"Now that I got a 1680x1050 monitor, I don't need AA anymore! You can't see the jaggies at a resolution this big"
^ It was being spouted endlessly like a decade ago. 
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Sep 2014 18:04 Post subject: |
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| LeoNatan wrote: | | bart5986 wrote: | | I think a 4k tv in your lounge room is pointless unless its 60"+ |
Yes, yes, same tired and incorrect argument of 1080p vs. 720p. No. |
All depends on the lounge room 
Let's assume a 50" TV. Minimum distance you need to be from the TV for each resolution to become "retina"*:
- 1280x720: 293cm (117in for the Imperial impaired)
- 1920x1080: 198cm (78in for the Imperial impaired)
- 3840x2160: 99cm (78in for the Imperial impaired)
The main point here is that 1080p may or may not be as sharp as it gets on a TV of this size, whereas 4K is pretty much guaranteed unless you sit way too close to begin with.
If you go down to, say 42", those distances become 249/168/84 centimeters (or 98/66/33 in toddler measurements). Even then, 1080p may not be enough for some people (I think I'm close to that number myself, never really measured it).
It's not as clear cut as "useless" or "obviously better". In a bedroom there's no point to a 4K TV for example. Unless it's a 60+ inch TV at the foot end of a child's crib or you use binoculars to watch, the TV's never gonna be close enough for 4K to make a difference over 1080p.
* Retina meaning that someone with 20/20 vision can no longer discern individual pixels. More resolution beyond that will continue to improve sharpness slightly, but this will be very subtle. |
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Sep 2014 18:16 Post subject: |
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Who buys a 4K for their bedroom?
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Sep 2014 18:29 Post subject: |
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Sasha Grey in 4k definitely goes to my bedroom! 
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Sep 2014 19:39 Post subject: |
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| h0rnyfavn wrote: | | Sasha Grey in 4k definitely goes to my bedroom! |
4K porn? That might be more detail than you would like to see.. 
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY |
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Sep 2014 20:04 Post subject: |
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Some sites already offer content in 2160p.
6GB+ per scene, need moar hard drives 
| chiv wrote: | | don't quote me on that |
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Sep 2014 23:01 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 6th Sep 2014 23:28 Post subject: |
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Sounds awesome and exciting, but then I remember that I'm still on a 3.8Mbit connection and below average TN panel from 2011. Ya'll laugh, but the next generation of YIFI releases is indeed something that I'll be looking forward to in the future 
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| Posted: Wed, 13th May 2015 12:42 Post subject: |
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So now I just need a 4K tv, and a 4k blu-ray player?
Meh... maybe in another 3 - 4 years. I'm good for now.
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| Posted: Wed, 13th May 2015 14:43 Post subject: |
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Bought while ago 58" 4K TV, this is good news :>. 4K material looks ridiculously good, tho you need PC connected to the TV to actually get good quality for now.
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| Posted: Wed, 13th May 2015 19:52 Post subject: |
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4K is old.. 8K coming.. 12K down the road... Can't Jump.. On.. Bandwagon...
There are cheap 4Ks all around now but meh.. too outdated.. 
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