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Ronhrin
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 Posted: Fri, 14th Jan 2011 03:33 Post subject: Re: Windows 8 |
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| Frant wrote: | The first tidbits about Windows 8 has begun to leak.
Windows 8 will support SoC (System-on-a-Chip) and ARM
Windows 8 UI will be called Wind and may be a 3D desktop (whatever that entails)
Windows 8 Milestone 2 has been compiled: Windows 8 Milestone 2: 6.2.79xx.0.winmain_win8m2.xxxxxx-xxxx
Windows 8 will be integrated in the "cloud" (as a service?)
Release is set to sometime in 2012. |
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Jan 2011 04:11 Post subject: |
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ixigia
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Jan 2011 12:45 Post subject: |
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The question is, will Windows 8 be useful, mandantory or useless for games? 
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Jan 2011 13:31 Post subject: |
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Since there doesn't appear to be a new DirectX revision we can rule out mandatory.
Apart from mandatory DirectX updates, new Windows revisions themselves were never useful for games since they just ended up using more resources for themselves hurting gaming performance.
And yes, I know there have been marketing rebrands as well like Win2000 -> WinXP and Vista -> Win7 which didn't hurt but kept everything the same.
But real new versions always used more resources. Which category Windows 8 will fall in is still unknown.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Jan 2011 13:40 Post subject: |
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We will be on win7 for another two releases yet you watch 
8 will fall on arse like vista did but worse, due to so many fandangle tools and shit thrown probably in it to keep all the derpo's amused for twitting/facing and fapping.. etc.. Prob only looked at if you run new hardware with specific use for said new os.. Gaming wise Im thinking win7 is going to be another xp for a while yet.
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Jan 2011 13:50 Post subject: |
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They are also adding a WinStore! 
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Jan 2011 13:57 Post subject: |
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oh fuck me where is my ubuntu disc..
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| Posted: Fri, 14th Jan 2011 15:34 Post subject: |
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Daz already has a working crack for windows 8
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Frant
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Jan 2011 06:10 Post subject: |
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http://windows7center.com/news/windows-next-after-windows-7/
http://www.dailytech.com/Report+Windows+8+Dubbed+WindowsNext+Internally+to+be+Revolutionary/article17668.htm
Internally it's NOT known as Windows 8 but as Windows.Next according to an MSDN blog (which has since been pulled).
| Quote: | This could be the best indication so far that the next version of Windows will be based on the Midori OS project that Microsoft have been working on since 2003. Midori has a completely re-written kernel from the ground up that is suppose to be a written almost entirely in managed code.
While this should not mean much to end users it means that Microsoft will be able to make a complete break from the legacy code that has been in Windows for the past 2 decades. The importance for this break with legacy code recently became highlighted when Microsoft recently released a patch to fix a security issues that was 17 years old.
Previously such a big changes the OS was not possible but with the release of XP Mode and other virtualisation technologies with Windows 7 backwards compatibility may no longer be an issues. |
| Quote: | Midori is the code name for a managed code operating system being developed by Microsoft Research. It has been reported to be a possible commercial implementation of the Singularity operating system, a research project started in 2003 to build a highly-dependable operating system in which the kernel, device drivers, and applications are all written in managed code. It was designed for concurrency, and can run a program spread across multiple nodes at once. It also features an entirely new security model that sandboxes applications for increased security. Microsoft has mapped out several possible migration paths from Windows to Midori (referred to as "Windows.Next").
In a possible link to Microsoft’s Oslo composite application initiative, the programming model will have a dependence on metadata, with the aim of allowing the system to more reliably manage applications. There is also a possibility that Midori is internet-based.
The code name Midori was first discovered through the PowerPoint presentation CHESS: A systematic testing tool for concurrent software. |
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oh great so they re-written the code to use :
1. Virtual PC from the year 2007 that has a custom made image of WindowsXP preinstalled called now ZE XP Mode
2. use or rather steal another ideas from "VMware Thinapp" application that creates self running self contained sandboxed single filed exes programs that have limited access and custom sandboxed os of your choosing
3. totally re-written windows to make programming on it a totally new horrible experience ... PS3 rings a bell much, yeah this will totally help the gaming industry on the PC
4. the only plus they see ,its making it more dependent on Internet connectivity and by using sandboxed environment they help the concurrency of programs that now will not fragment in computer memory making them run faster...
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I disagree on point 3. The PS3 doesn't make developer's life's a living hell because of its software but because of the weak GPU - strong CPU combo that is unsuited for gaming. An OS written in managed code doesn't imply that the hardware you buy for your PC must be unsuited for a certain task (Microsoft doesn't force you to buy a weak GPU for your gaming PC)
Managed code has two big security advantages: no more memory leaks and a good excuse to break compatibility with bad legacy APIs. I hope MS has the balls to continue the path they started with Vista. A lot of old software had issues at the start but after applications and driver were brought up to speed it was a much better user experience than Win98 or XP for me.
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So backwards compatibility will be achieved through emulation and a new API will emerge ?
Sounds logical. Finally.
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Jan 2011 03:11 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | It also features an entirely new security model that sandboxes applications for increased security. |
ok, but what does this mean exactly?
does it mean that software doesn't have rights for shit by default but still install into a fucking hairy mess of files and bazillion useless registry entries like always?
or does it mean something like sandboxie, where everything a piece of software does is within it's own contained bubble that can be destroyed within seconds without needing a ridiculous uninstall procedure and vestigial files and messed up registry?
i'm hoping for the latter, but being microsoft, i kind of doubt they'd ever to anything that awesome
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thudo
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| Posted: Tue, 1st Feb 2011 22:21 Post subject: |
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Where is the bloody 128bit one? That supposed to be in the forecast as of mid-last year.
Yeah yeah they barely move forward on 64bit for almost a decade so how can they even think to going to 128bit?
Just cause its BLOODY COOL!
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And what processors will it be running on?
Moving forward to 128bit isn't happening in the next 5 years at least. Neither Intel nor AMD are planning anything in that range any time soon.
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Feb 2011 06:48 Post subject: |
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I'd also like to have 36893488147419103232 MB RAM.
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| Posted: Wed, 2nd Feb 2011 10:50 Post subject: |
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| thudo wrote: | Where is the bloody 128bit one? That supposed to be in the forecast as of mid-last year.
Yeah yeah they barely move forward on 64bit for almost a decade so how can they even think to going to 128bit?
Just cause its BLOODY COOL! |
if consoles would use 874293748728394798237ram then you would get your 128 bit system
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thudo
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Look at the older blurbs from MS.. 128bit is in dev. Yesh thats insane but I welcome it. 12Gb of ram is a joke price anyway.
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Why would you welcome it. Name one practical use.
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How useless, especially with all the new SSE instruction sets allowing operations on 128 bit regs/mem (or even more ?)
Parallelism is the future of performance anyway.
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Frant
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| Posted: Thu, 3rd Feb 2011 13:21 Post subject: |
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Windows 8 @ 128-bit rumour is fake.
| Quote: | | Robert Morgan is working to get IA-128 working backwards with full binary compatibility on the existing IA-64 instructions in the hardware simulation to work for Windows 8 and definitely Windows 9. |
There is no IA-128
| Quote: | It started with information about support for some new
128-bit multiply instructions on some future X86-64 based platform. That
got misquoted as IA-128 and then people started to think about 128-bit
virtual addresses. There would be no need to actually implement 128-bit
physical addresses as I suspect you could neither afford or connect that
much memory. Even for a 128-bit virtual address space, you better get lots
of the 1TB drives for pagefiles. |
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thudo
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There will be a mainstream 128bit OS someday in conjunction with mainstream 128bit processors. Just a matter of time but after we all die in late '12. 
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thudo
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I'll be on the front lines accepting my just-due diet of Mass DEATH! As an ethereal, 256bit OS will be common-place.
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