[OTHER] Aiming with a controller
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Vikerness




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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Mar 2011 14:21    Post subject: [OTHER] Aiming with a controller
Ok. So how the hell people do it ? How ? I can generally hold my own and get kds of 2 but for that i really got to pay attention, work hard for each kill and mostly make sure i flank people. If i woudlnt watch youtube i'd say that's all you can do with a controller and that's probably how everyone plays. But then i see vids like
http://www.youtube.com/user/E7YC3#p/c/DA25770BB305F1FA/0/1xWJdpJpiDk
and there's plenty more videos out there mostly for mw2 and black ops which i dont feel like linking because i dont like cod games. SO anyway..
HOW ?!


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Mar 2011 14:29    Post subject:
Don't suck!
j/k

But no really, some people are just better than others, there's no tricks.


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Mar 2011 14:33    Post subject:
It's the copious amounts of auto-aim lavished on every console shooter. In COD4/MW2, just the very act of tapping the left trigger AUTOMATICALLY snaps the crosshair to the enemy. Couple that with the engine-exploiting nonsense of "quick scoping"--- and you've got your answer.
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Mar 2011 18:10    Post subject:
A lot of playing or using Mouse/Keyboard
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Mar 2011 18:51    Post subject:
Yeah, a load of practice. I went (and I bet a lot of people here did) from mouse and keyboard to controller and sucked at first. Now I find it the other way around and can't use a keyboard to save my life.

COD series is a bad example really as Sabin said, it's got auto aim which helps. Even with auto aim turned off it's still partially on which imo, sucks big time (hence one of the reasons I rarely play it). You'll find that if you're aimed on someone and another player runs across your sights, the crosshair will try to follow them Sad


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Mar 2011 18:53    Post subject:
Yeah, even the PC version of Bulletstorm has that. I was playing it and having to fight with the mouse because the crosshair was constantly locking to enemies and tracking with them Sad
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Mar 2011 19:02    Post subject:
It is impossible to play FPS games as twitchy and fast as on pc, but I find analogs (on 360 becouse I cant ...JUST CANT play on ps3 controller analogs) pretty comfortable.

Playing on analogs gives me that smooth butterish cinamatic feel and after playing some games(I own 360 which is my first console for 2 years) I think I am very good with controller. Crysis2 mp demo was quite easy for me. After all it can get quite easy and intuitive. My friend even once told me that looking just on screen, its hard to notice if I am playing with controller or mouse.

That goes to most experienced users.
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Mar 2011 19:03    Post subject:
You need to learn the retarded quickscope technique so you make use of the aimbot features of modern console games:



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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Mar 2011 19:39    Post subject:
holy crap and I thought I am good with a controller :O

btw making a tutorial for things like this is kinda retarded Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Mar 2011 20:27    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Mar 2011 20:28    Post subject:
Aw.. aimbot features ^^. I play MAG anyway and there's no aiming help there, maybe thats the reason there's not many OMGWTFPWN montages of MAG ? =)
Edit: ok i found one


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Mar 2011 20:49    Post subject:
Stop using the consoles for what they suck at (or get a mouse for the console). Regardless of how "great" people are at aiming in consoles, they still suck ass compared to a dude with a mouse on a PC.


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PostPosted: Sat, 19th Mar 2011 21:02    Post subject:
Vikerness wrote:
I play MAG anyway and there's no aiming help there

A game on the consoles that requires skill? Shocked

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PostPosted: Sun, 20th Mar 2011 00:39    Post subject:
Dragscoping... Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 24th Mar 2011 06:02    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Vikerness wrote:
I play MAG anyway and there's no aiming help there

A game on the consoles that requires skill?

On one hand there is no aiming help, on the other hand everybody gets 2 grenades. Imagine a battlefield of 256 players where everyone when they spawn, the first thing they do is throw their grenades. Add the people camping near the ammo resupply thingie and all they do is throw grenade nr1, throw grenade nr2, resupply, repeat, and you get a big exploding fest Sad
But anyway i got pissed at my lack of controlling skills, started fresh with a lvl1 dude and played 24 hours straight to lvl 30 =D Started getting better, might actually consider playing my shooters on the ps3, kinda got bored of the pc and certanly got bored of getting called a cheater every friking day in bc2 by those exact pc elitists that talk about skill (edit: talking about 90% of german clans) yet they think if you're better than them you must be cheating ! fuck that, back to mag for now =)


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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 14:54    Post subject:
Aww.. ok, definitely need to post this. After more mag on ps3 and more bc2 on pc i think there's soo much more fail by the pc players. Really, join a random server on bc2 and what do you get? Players camping in corners, crouching in the bushes, sitting there scoping with a gustav and many many more aimless dudes that.. dunno.. just sit there crouching.. like statues.
Now join a random game in mag, everyone can aim, everyone uses his knife, nobody just sits there waiting for.. rain? Also the other day, after arming the bomb, i stopped there for like 3 seconds to stub out my cigg and already hear a dude saying "dont camp there mate, you'll die, place the bomb, get out and camp outside". WOW. only good impressions so far from the ps3 players and so I think the number of dumb pc players is wayyyyy way bigger than on the consoles.
Any opinions? Similar impressions? Maybe its just mag? Agree? Disagree?


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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 15:30    Post subject:
A lot of games have autoaim, press LT close enough to a enemy and you will notice it Wink
But you will get better, taim n præktis
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 15:40    Post subject:
I think a modified trackpad (such as Apple's) could allow for some easy precision aiming on consoles Exclamation


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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 15:45    Post subject:
Rofl_Mao wrote:
I think a modified trackpad (such as Apple's) could allow for some easy precision aiming on consoles Exclamation

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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 15:56    Post subject:
I could never play fps on a console :\ Mouse ftw ^^


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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 15:59    Post subject:
dingo_d wrote:
I could never play fps on a console :\ Mouse ftw ^^
I think you could... with a gun to your head Wink Even leo would probably manage the art of good FPS console gaming Smug
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 16:23    Post subject:
deelix wrote:
dingo_d wrote:
I could never play fps on a console :\ Mouse ftw ^^
I think you could... with a gun to your head Wink Even leo would probably manage the art of good FPS console gaming Smug


The only type of games that are better played on consoles than on PC, imo, are fighting games.

But playing fps on console... I think I'd rather take the bullet grinhurt


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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 16:57    Post subject:
Well, i've been a PC gamer for 15 years. I only got a console for 3 months but i enjoy the challenge of aiming with a controller moreso than i do with a mouse right now.


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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 17:19    Post subject:
dingo_d wrote:
deelix wrote:
dingo_d wrote:
I could never play fps on a console :\ Mouse ftw ^^
I think you could... with a gun to your head Wink Even leo would probably manage the art of good FPS console gaming Smug


The only type of games that are better played on consoles than on PC, imo, are fighting games.

But playing fps on console... I think I'd rather take the bullet grinhurt
And platform games. Most of my PC gaming friends got a 360 controller, for the PC
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PostPosted: Mon, 28th Mar 2011 17:47    Post subject:
XIM3 is 150$, thats quite a lot of money to "own" console retards...
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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Mar 2011 06:59    Post subject:
I haven't seen a convincible solution for mouse/kb on consoles yet. There is always the problem with the stick acceleration, that you don't have with a mouse on PC.
On consoles, the more you move the stick, the faster the character looks around. It's different from mouse controls, where movement transfers directly. And I don't see how that can be avoided by such boxes. You would need developer support in the games for that.


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PostPosted: Tue, 29th Mar 2011 19:29    Post subject:
xTerro wrote:
Well, i've been a PC gamer for 15 years. I only got a console for 3 months but i enjoy the challenge of aiming with a controller moreso than i do with a mouse right now.

Exactly my thoughts atm, a whole new world to explore =D So far its more fun than i expected, at least on ps3


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