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 Posted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2011 22:35 Post subject: ATI Catalyst 11.x 99% gpu load on idle |
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 thank you ati for this wonderful bug, it's just what I needed, my precious gpu working for no reason when surfing or doing some work and not playing games that usually takes gpu, at least the temp is low so I don't know if I should worry or not.
Fuckers forcing me to go back to nvdida with this shit, I don't care how good, and cheap, you cards are they are only as good as the drivers, it's like you have a new Porche with Ray Charles behind the wheel, a great car with a great engine but one that won't go far before crashing thanks to the blind fuck up that is ati programers. |
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2011 22:36 Post subject: |
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1. Open Taskmanager
2. Close CCC
3. Close MOM
4. ???
5. Profit!
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2011 22:49 Post subject: |
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Didn't work, prly because we are missing step 4 
Some say that firefox triggers it, among other stuff like aero and everything else in win7 that uses hardware accelerated stuff, even clear type.
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Ankh
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Werelds
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2011 23:01 Post subject: |
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No, it's only triggered by stuff that uses D2D or D3D incorrectly.
At any rate, it's something you fucked up and not ATI, because I'm not experiencing it. Highest I can get mine to peak is about 30% when opening Framerate Fest in FF4, or 15% when opening it in IE9.
Really makes me wonder what everyone does to their PC, how the fuck can I never have these issues?
Edit: you honestly have something running that is using your GPU. Win7 x64, Catalyst 11.4 (the version from last week). Was running 11.2 before that, no problems then either.
Edit #2: you SURE your load is that high? What are you using to check it?
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2011 23:03 Post subject: |
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 check the net it's a very widespread bug that attacks 5xxx cards I think and new drivers, how dare you accuse me of negligence! 
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=341721
I think it's been around since 11.x but I only recently updated, I was on 10.x. |
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| Posted: Sun, 3rd Apr 2011 23:50 Post subject: |
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How are you checking that you have high load on idle?
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2011 00:04 Post subject: |
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this gadget
and gpu-z |
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2011 00:58 Post subject: |
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why dont u open ccc and check load there ? huh huh.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2011 01:10 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2011 06:20 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2011 07:18 Post subject: |
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I have 5770 and don't have that problem. My card is running kinda higher than usual, but I reckon that's just dust...
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2011 10:32 Post subject: |
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Could be, so every time I want to play a game my card is ready and 'fired up' to jump into the fray  can't go cold when you play Cyrsis, it's like an athlete running without getting warmed up first.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2011 10:34 Post subject: |
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| Ankh wrote: | | madmax17 wrote: | check the net it's a very widespread bug that attacks 5xxx cards I think and new drivers, how dare you accuse me of negligence!
http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=341721
I think it's been around since 11.x but I only recently updated, I was on 10.x. |
Ive got a 5870...and I still dont have that problem  |
Are you sure, you need a gadget like this so you can monitor it 24/7. Otherwise you might have missed it. |
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2011 13:54 Post subject: |
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Install a different driver version. Beforehand, however, use Driver Sweeper to cleanly mop any remains of the old driver version (uninstall it using the 'Express Uninstall All Ati software' option), then use some registry mechanic like CCleaner to boost health into window's registry and therefore get rid of any other driver scraps Driver Sweeper might have missed. And finally, install the desirable driver version after all that process.
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Werelds
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2011 14:03 Post subject: |
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It is some software that you and those other people are using, just like the grey lines bug some people had. Something is causing the driver to accelerate whatever is going on, and it is not your browser or Aero.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2011 14:21 Post subject: |
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I installed new driver like 2 days ago (11.3 official from the XFX site) and now my card is 70°C at idle (really idle, 0% load) :\
I have to manually set the fan speed at 70% to get it cooled down to 57°C 
Before my card reached max 40°C at idle 
Now I have to buy stupid canned air -.-"
EDIT:
If I want to remove the front plastic with fan from the GPU, do I need to remove the cooler from the GPU as well? Because I don't have any thermal paste atm :\
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
Last edited by dingo_d on Mon, 4th Apr 2011 14:35; edited 1 time in total
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2011 14:33 Post subject: |
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Well that won't be caused by the driver at least, would be impressive programming otherwise
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2011 18:56 Post subject: |
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So should I revert the drivers to 11.2.
XFX support hasn't been that helpful: check for obstructions 
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2011 19:45 Post subject: |
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this is bit of a noobish question, but currently I have set the speed to 60% and the temp is 57-58°C (still too high but beats out the 70°C), if I go to play a game, will it override that settings and start spinning higher (because the temp while playing Crysis goes up to 90°C)?
I wouldn't want to fry my card.
If I leave it at automatic, it spins at 40% and the temps go up (idle)...
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2011 19:47 Post subject: |
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You really need to clean your card mate, there is no way a driver will cause it to run at 70 degrees when idle.
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2011 20:04 Post subject: |
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| Werelds wrote: | | You really need to clean your card mate, there is no way a driver will cause it to run at 70 degrees when idle. |
I tried but I have no canned air :\ and I don't want to unscrew the whole thing because I'd have to apply the thermal paste, which I currently don't have
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Mon, 4th Apr 2011 20:16 Post subject: |
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It should spin up as usual if the card exceeds the safety threshold the bios has, when you're already using a custom profile though it does the same under automatic mode but gradually increases airflow/fan speed, think that's 80 - 85c somewhere around.
(Card shuts down via GPU reset "error" at 95c I think but can handle up to 115c before failing though you don't really want them to reach 90c outside of programs like Furmark as that's not really normal operating temperatures.)
A dust blob or similar could be the problem as well as Werelds points out so carefully cleaning the card might prove the real solution to this heat buildup though I doubt they get that dusty in a average environment though I could easily be wrong here.
(Air should work fine, just avoid damaging the fan by having it spin too fast, unscrewing and tampering directly with the cooler and PCB is possible but would void warranty and I wouldn't recommend it as such plus the chance to accidentally damage something even if low.)
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