He has a point tho, almost every great discovery comes from Jewish scientist.
That is some distorted leap you have just made from what this guy says in the video. He doesn't say anything like that.
Be specific about what he says, which is that Jews are involved in many great advances in science and technology - nothing close to, "almost every great discovery." He uses the word, "disproportionate," to talk about the nobel prizes. That is it.
He has a point tho, almost every great discovery comes from Jewish scientist.
That is some distorted leap you have just made from what this guy says in the video. He doesn't say anything like that.
Be specific about what he says, which is that Jews are involved in many great advances in science and technology - nothing close to, "almost every great discovery." He uses the word, "disproportionate," to talk about the nobel prizes. That is it.
And I'm talking in general. Try to find any major discovery in physics, let's say. Either the scientist is Jewish or of Jewish descent...
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson
chiv wrote:
thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.
I dont see where this discussion is headed. Obviously, some of the greatest minds were jews or of jewish descent. Many jews in Europe before 2nd WW were in fact members of more or less rich families that could afford good studies. I would even say that the studies of the talmud in early ages favors philosophical and intellectual competences.
But there were times, when the islamic "world" was more advanced then the western world. (Around 1000 AD). This islamic world brought us many technological, mathematical, astronomical and philosophical advancements, which we could build upon afterwards.
So, I'd say, this discussion about who's got a longer penis in scientific advancement is complete nonsense.
I can agree on other points this Condell makes, although I wouldn't see the Israeli/Palestinian conflict quite like this. Both sides are have been making it difficult for each other and I find it most difficult to pick a side.
Also, was Max Planck of jewish descent?
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
I dont see where this discussion is headed. Obviously, some of the greatest minds were jews or of jewish descent. Many jews in Europe before 2nd WW were in fact members of more or less rich families that could afford good studies. I would even say that the studies of the talmud in early ages favors philosophical and intellectual competences.
But there were times, when the islamic "world" was more advanced then the western world. (Around 1000 AD). This islamic world brought us many technological, mathematical, astronomical and philosophical advancements, which we could build upon afterwards.
So, I'd say, this discussion about who's got a longer penis in scientific advancement is complete nonsense.
I can agree on other points this Condell makes, although I wouldn't see the Israeli/Palestinian conflict quite like this. Both sides are have been making it difficult for each other and I find it most difficult to pick a side.
Also, was Max Planck of jewish descent?
Couldnt have said it better myself. Glad to see some still have half a brain in this derp world.
And its interesting that no other people in history have used their suffering as a propaganda tool like the jews. I dont hate em, I dont believe in hating a race or people but sometimes I'm disgusted by the jewish methods. The state of israel is another example...
Dont mess with God, he can impregnate your girlfriend/wife without taking his pants off!
I dont hate em, I dont believe in hating a race or people but sometimes I'm disgusted by the jewish methods. The state of israel is another example...
If you say "jewish methods" what exactly do you mean by that? Because for me it sounds like a racist argument. And how is the state of israel another example? Another example of what? Chose your words more carefully.
You can criticize the israeli government as much as you want. Even israeli people do that. And not every jew is zionist neither (like Rony Brauman f.e. read Finkielkraut Brauman- la discorde (french book)). It is a matter of opinion.
Jewish methods as in using their own suffering as a means of spreading their propaganda and getting away with murder etc because the rest of the world feels an obligation to turn a blind eye on most jewish activities.
The two comments after my post is another example of how some are brainwashed by propaganda to act instinctivly whenever someones says something critical of the state of isreal or the jewish community.
Its interesting most people have been taught to really hate Hitler, yet other mass murderers are almost unknown in comparission.
I bet if you put up a picture of Hitler next to Stalin, Fidel, Saddam Hussein, Pol Pot almost everyone would recognize Hitler, yet most wouldnt even know Stalin.
Dont mess with God, he can impregnate your girlfriend/wife without taking his pants off!
lol, I criticize the government of Israel but I don't criticizes the Israeli state per se. Also I know Stalin quite well. What is it with the prejudices?
Jewish methods as in using their own suffering as a means of spreading their propaganda and getting away with murder etc because the rest of the world feels an obligation to turn a blind eye on most jewish activities.
The two comments after my post is another example of how some are brainwashed by propaganda to act instinctivly whenever someones says something critical of the state of isreal or the jewish community.
Its interesting most people have been taught to really hate Hitler, yet other mass murderers are almost unknown in comparission.
I bet if you put up a picture of Hitler next to Stalin, Fidel, Saddam Hussein, Pol Pot almost everyone would recognize Hitler, yet most wouldnt even know Stalin.
You simply wrote an antisemitic comment and didn't even realise you did just that. Jews != Israelis or zionists.
Right after Pat ridiculed those who rant about "jewish methods of controlling the world and bla bla!" comes someone and talks about "jewish methods and activities, and even manages to throw Hitler and Stalin to the pot"
He has a point tho, almost every great discovery comes from Jewish scientist.
That is some distorted leap you have just made from what this guy says in the video. He doesn't say anything like that.
Be specific about what he says, which is that Jews are involved in many great advances in science and technology - nothing close to, "almost every great discovery." He uses the word, "disproportionate," to talk about the nobel prizes. That is it.
And I'm talking in general. Try to find any major discovery in physics, let's say. Either the scientist is Jewish or of Jewish descent...
Don't be daft. I don't have to find anything.
You've simply exaggerated something somebody else has said and claiming it's a generalisation makes it worse - be careful. At best you chose your words incorrectly and at worst it's a blatant distortion of the truth to illuminate an opinion. Read what you post and think more carefully about it before you hit submit, then you won't post stuff that falls over so easily! The fact that you try and defend your claim instead of admitting you went too far speaks volumes. Be careful that others don't decide to label you in such a general way eh
Also read what couleur posted directly after your previous post here.
During the 20th century the Ashkenazi Jews, made up about 3% of the US population but won 27% of the US science Nobel Prizes and 25% of the Turing Awards and more than half of the world's chess champions are Ashkenazi Jews.
They are more prone to genetic diseases as well tho, but I chalk that up to watching to many Woody Allen movies
There are two kinds of people I can't stand in this world. People who are intolerant of other people's cultures, and the Dutch.
...but won 27% of the US science Nobel Prizes and 25% of the Turing Awards
Yeah that's actually referred to in the video and NOBODY is countering that, so what's your point?
Doh! wrote:
...more than half of the world's chess champions are Ashkenazi Jews.
Chess is an indulgence. You either like it or you don't. It's undoubted popularity amongst Jews is reflected in their achievements in the game but those achievement are of no contextual relevance imho.
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During the 20th century the Ashkenazi Jews, made up about 3% of the US population but won 27% of the US science Nobel Prizes and 25% of the Turing Awards and more than half of the world's chess champions are Ashkenazi Jews.
They are more prone to genetic diseases as well tho, but I chalk that up to watching to many Woody Allen movies
Wait for people to post that the Joos control those award committees!
During the 20th century the Ashkenazi Jews, made up about 3% of the US population but won 27% of the US science Nobel Prizes and 25% of the Turing Awards and more than half of the world's chess champions are Ashkenazi Jews.
They are more prone to genetic diseases as well tho, but I chalk that up to watching to many Woody Allen movies
Wait for people to post that the Joos control those award committees!
The joos control those award commitess, ofcourse they do. How naive are you guys...
Dont mess with God, he can impregnate your girlfriend/wife without taking his pants off!
That is some distorted leap you have just made from what this guy says in the video. He doesn't say anything like that.
Be specific about what he says, which is that Jews are involved in many great advances in science and technology - nothing close to, "almost every great discovery." He uses the word, "disproportionate," to talk about the nobel prizes. That is it.
And I'm talking in general. Try to find any major discovery in physics, let's say. Either the scientist is Jewish or of Jewish descent...
Don't be daft. I don't have to find anything.
You've simply exaggerated something somebody else has said and claiming it's a generalisation makes it worse - be careful. At best you chose your words incorrectly and at worst it's a blatant distortion of the truth to illuminate an opinion. Read what you post and think more carefully about it before you hit submit, then you won't post stuff that falls over so easily! The fact that you try and defend your claim instead of admitting you went too far speaks volumes. Be careful that others don't decide to label you in such a general way eh
Also read what couleur posted directly after your previous post here.
Wtf is your problem?
I wrote what I think it's fuckin' forum ffs
I haven't exaggerated anything, google and see, Gell Man, Einstein, Bloch, Bethe, Feynman, Lederman, Oppenheimer, Rabi... The list goes on.
The fact that you don't know them is your problem, not mine
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson
chiv wrote:
thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found.
I haven't exaggerated anything, google and see, Gell Man, Einstein, Bloch, Bethe, Feynman, Lederman, Oppenheimer, Rabi... The list goes on.
The fact that you don't know them is your problem, not mine
Get the fuck over yourself
Guess what?... I wrote what I think - "it's a fuckin' forum ffs"
You don't only bullshit - you are a hipocrit as well... you are the only one who can post what they think?
Who said I don't know them? You throw a few names out gratuitously like it validates what you say and think that's it? Keep wearing your blinkers though.
He has a point tho, almost every great discovery comes from Jewish scientist.
Well that's a fact. In terms of Nobel prizes and such. I've read the average IQ of sephardic and ashkenazi (nazi? lol) Jews is 115. Which is by far the highest in the world.
He has a point tho, almost every great discovery comes from Jewish scientist.
Well that's a fact. In terms of Nobel prizes and such.
Yes, that is what the guy in the vid said - he didn't go as far as dingo_d did and in fact I'm sure he wouldn't be that stupid as to make such an idiotic claim. It doesn't matter how far your subjective attitude takes you - those Jewish scientists woulda done fuck all if they'd been as slack in their analysis and of course, we are lucky they weren't.
dingo_d wrote:
Mussolinka wrote:
dingo_d wrote:
Aaah the beauty of ignore button...
Fucking win to have the last word, eh?
absolutely! Problem?
I don't bother with the ignore button cos quotes tend to override it. dingo_d can't rationally discuss the things he made up because it's impossible. Opinions are like asshole as they say, everybody as one but when you can't qualify a claim, and in this case, quantify the evidence, you don't simply have an asshole...
Spoiler:
You are one! Hello dingo_d - yeah I know you will read it ya potato
Oh btw - I believe circumstances are a big factor in development, of various types. I do believe that for a long sustained period the Jews had little room for much else other than intellectual advancement. It was really the only way forward for them - maybe I'm wrong... it's an idea, that's all.
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