...new cpu - who wants to do a little window shopping :D
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chiv




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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd May 2011 01:57    Post subject: ...new cpu - who wants to do a little window shopping :D
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentlist.asp?parttypeid=13&t=7

this is NZ prices, so its higher than the USD equivalent, though its still nuts how much we're overcharged...

ANYWAY - from the models available there, which one would make the best sense - price to performance? obviously id like it to really beat the shit out of any games coming out in the next few years, but also for 3d and design work as well.

if it matters, a gtx 570 is the card thats going with it... maybe a second one for sli in the future (2560x1600 is my screens native res.)

and while we're at it, any idea what motherboard youd suggest to go with it? (motherboard section is on the left menu)


also, whats standard now... 6... 8gb of ram?


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd May 2011 02:02    Post subject:
What proc are you upgrading from? Personally, I'd say it all depends on what you're willing to spend .. but the i5-2500k is a powerhouse chip. Supremely clockable and, clock for clock, faster than the older 1st gen models. Obviously if you can afford it, grab the i7-2600k - but you won't be upset with the 2500k.
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd May 2011 02:05    Post subject:
Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 is what i have at the moment


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd May 2011 02:15    Post subject:
Ignore SLI/Crossfire. There's so much trouble with SLI/Crossfire that I never found it worth it, and once you have an SLI/Crossfire setup it won't be long until next generation shows up with a single card that outperforms your SLI/Crossfire setup without flickering/crashing/bugging out.

And it's the same in both camps. SLI/Crossfire is simply asking for issues to deal with.

2500K is quite enough, and very overclockable. Smile


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd May 2011 02:24    Post subject:
so thats two yes's on the 2500.. will that give me a significant boost over my qx6700? (Intel Core 2 Extreme QX6700 2.66GHz 2x4Mb 1066MHZ Quad)


what about a motherboard to go with it?

http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentlist.asp?parttypeid=147&t=2
http://www.computerlounge.co.nz/components/componentlist.asp?parttypeid=10&t=2

or perhaps something that isnt even on the list thats significantly better than whats available?


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd May 2011 02:51    Post subject:
For motherboard get an ASUS ROG or EVGA board. These boards are solid. Especially for multi GPU and overclocking



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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd May 2011 02:58    Post subject:
I prefer GigaByte mb's...but buying motherboard is just personal prefence.

and 4gb of ram will be fine


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd May 2011 03:01    Post subject:
so nix the 12 gb ram set i was planning, got it.


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd May 2011 03:03    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
so nix the 12 gb ram set i was planning, got it.


anything over 4gb is an overkill and pretty much most of people will agree on that


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd May 2011 03:06    Post subject:
but i like overkill Sad

fine fine, 4..ish..gb Very Happy


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd May 2011 09:11    Post subject:
Besides, some kit aren't available in 3gig sticks. And 2x 6gigs is just stupid Razz

And from what I've heard oc i5 comes really close to i7, so..


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd May 2011 10:30    Post subject:
I'd actually go for 8GB, esp. if you've got an SSD-drive as system disk. Then you can disable your pagefile completely and really fine tune your system for performance. I tried disabling with 4GB but it still happened a couple of times that I ran out of RAM and the system acted weird.

I do think 8GB is the new 4GB, esp. since it's so damn cheap nowadays.


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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd May 2011 11:10    Post subject:
Like people above already said, i5-2500K is the king of value. SLI/CFX aren't worth it if you're not ready to deal with missing and/or broken profiles for games. Microstuttering is a non-issue these days, but profiles are still very much a problem, especially when you get lazy ass developers who don't do QA like on a certain AAA title that came out recently Cool Face

What TC says is a bit over the top; the ROG and EVGA boards don't offer more stability than the "normal" high-end boards from ASUS, MSI or Gigabyte, but they still cost a shitton more. Why? because you pay extra for looks or gimmicks you won't care about anyway Smile
I would never get one of those at least, as I've seen enough of them failing just the same, and that shouldn't happen at those prices.
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PostPosted: Sun, 22nd May 2011 22:14    Post subject:
I would wait for couple weeks, when AMD releases Bulldozer chips. If they fail, then get 2500k. Waiting myself aswell how the bulldozer is doing. Gonna replace my Phenom II setup.

EDIT:

Prices has been leaked

AMD FX-8130P – 8 Core, 3.8Ghz, Max T.C 4.2Ghz, 125W (320$)
AMD FX-8110 – 8 Core, 3.6Ghz, Max T.C 4.0Ghz, 95W (290$)
AMD FX-6110 – 6 Core, Unknown, Max T.C Unknown, 95W (240$)
AMD FX-4110 – 4 Core, Unknown, Max T.C Unknown, 95W (190$)

Read more: http://wccftech.com/2011/05/22/asus-leaks-specifications-upcoming-bulldozer-zambezifx-processors/#ixzz1N9sJbMPT

Considering that the FX-8130P is expensiver than i7 2600k, it cant be shit. Probably kicks intel´s butt (if not, AMD is fucked).
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd May 2011 22:23    Post subject:
thanks for everyones feedback...

looking at the prices, i think i can afford the 2600k - so would it be recommended to get that instead of the 2500k? - the comparisons i saw made it look like the 2600k performed significantly better, but is the extra cost equal to the performance gain if i can afford it?

and these are good for gaming, yes? thats not ALL i want to use them for, obviously, but i wont find myself being limited by my cpu for a while, right?

and yes ill wait a couple of weeks breezer - i think ill probably be waiting until the end of june.


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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd May 2011 22:35    Post subject:
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PostPosted: Mon, 23rd May 2011 22:53    Post subject:
chiv wrote:
thanks for everyones feedback...

looking at the prices, i think i can afford the 2600k - so would it be recommended to get that instead of the 2500k? - the comparisons i saw made it look like the 2600k performed significantly better, but is the extra cost equal to the performance gain if i can afford it?

and these are good for gaming, yes? thats not ALL i want to use them for, obviously, but i wont find myself being limited by my cpu for a while, right?

and yes ill wait a couple of weeks breezer - i think ill probably be waiting until the end of june.


2500k is better for gaming tbh, games doesnt utilize HT at all. Also 2500k overclocks like beast, OCing 2600k requires more tweaking to the Vcore (Better Mobo) because of HT.
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th May 2011 00:06    Post subject:
Breezer is right, the 2600K requires a bit more work when overclocking, and HT is actually often a limiting factor. I'd pick the 2500K; same reason I went for an i5-760 instead of i7-8xx or 9xx - HT adds almost nothing of value except for the most heavily threaded applications, and in return you get a CPU that clocks better with better temps Smile
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th May 2011 00:49    Post subject:
really wondering how well bulldozer will do with such prices.

I do wish though they would call those octos quadcores instead.
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th May 2011 01:04    Post subject:
Werelds wrote:
Breezer is right, the 2600K requires a bit more work when overclocking, and HT is actually often a limiting factor. I'd pick the 2500K; same reason I went for an i5-760 instead of i7-8xx or 9xx - HT adds almost nothing of value except for the most heavily threaded applications, and in return you get a CPU that clocks better with better temps Smile

Some i7 2600K's can go over 5 GHz, just need the right mb and excellent cooling.
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PostPosted: Tue, 24th May 2011 14:55    Post subject:
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Werelds wrote:
Breezer is right, the 2600K requires a bit more work when overclocking, and HT is actually often a limiting factor. I'd pick the 2500K; same reason I went for an i5-760 instead of i7-8xx or 9xx - HT adds almost nothing of value except for the most heavily threaded applications, and in return you get a CPU that clocks better with better temps Smile

Some i7 2600K's can go over 5 GHz, just need the right mb and excellent cooling.


Ofc there are chips that overclocks like hell. But in 2600k case, its like winning in lottery if you get 5Ghz + chip (atleast now, tho first batch of 2600k´s were golden).
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