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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 15:34    Post subject: Land of the free fascist.
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Fucking M4 carbines lol
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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 15:40    Post subject:
smells like viral

i really have 2nd thought about applying for a green card
i'd rather live in Canada even though i didn't really like it there.


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Ankh




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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 15:47    Post subject:
Omg...did they really get arrested for dancing and kissing? Land of the free eh?


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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 15:48    Post subject:
Yeah, in Canada everyone is nice, healthcare is free and pool's always closed due to freezing temperatures. it's kinda boring.
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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 15:52    Post subject:
is there something wrong with those links? personally, i dont see anything wrong.
just a couple of idiots who dance like dorks at a respectful place. it is illegal and the cops should have also beat them up a little.





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Ankh




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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 15:54    Post subject:
Laurentiu499 wrote:
is there something wrong with those links? personally, i dont see anything wrong.
just a couple of idiots who dance like dorks at a respectful place. it is illegal and the cops should have also beat them up a little.


In exactly what way is that disrespectful? And kissing? Really...

They had no music on - other than in their earphones.


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Mr.Tinkles




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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 15:58    Post subject:
Laurentiu499 wrote:
is there something wrong with those links? personally, i dont see anything wrong.
just a couple of idiots who dance like dorks at a respectful place. it is illegal and the cops should have also beat them up a little.



Are you serious? o.O
It's not like they took a shit there or anything...


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Hierofan
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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 16:27    Post subject:
Laurentiu499 wrote:
is there something wrong with those links? personally, i dont see anything wrong.
just a couple of idiots who dance like dorks at a respectful place. it is illegal and the cops should have also beat them up a little.




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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 16:35    Post subject:
Wow... just wow...*implied face palm*


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Ragedoctor




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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 17:11    Post subject:
Explain this to me, if a cop asks you not to do something to maintain public peace, why would you do it on purpose in his face and then whine about it when he arrests you. If you dont like it, complain at the authorities rather then taunting the policemen. However they wont do that since they come to create chaos and disorder rather than change things fundamentally.
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 17:13    Post subject:
"public peace" exactly HOW would dancing or kissing affect public peace? You think it would bring chaos and mayhem???


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Mr.Tinkles




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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 17:17    Post subject:
Because cops aren't the law, they should maintain it. A cop also follows a set of rules just like everyone else, they somehow seem to think they don't. And asking someone not to kiss in public because it's it disturbs public peace is just weak, that's like saying that you're wearing the wrong kind of sneakers and it's disturbing the public peace...

It's not like those people were standing there waving their hands screaming and pushing people around and being hostile towards bystanders, quite the opposite, they were pretty much minding their own business.


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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 17:24    Post subject:
Ankh wrote:
"public peace" exactly HOW would dancing or kissing affect public peace? You think it would bring chaos and mayhem???


Im not defending the banning of kissing and dancing within monument grounds, Im attacking the people who still danced and kissed, KNOWING it would lead to a heavy police response. There are many ways to fight an injust law/rule and the one they picked is the most provocative and ineffective. Just in that moment they alienated all other people there that just wanted to enjoy that day within the monument grounds, because those people also had to leave because that bunch decided to play the attentionwhore.

Again dont misunderstand, Im not defending the fucking law. Im criticizing the way the protestors went about protesting against that law.
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Ankh




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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 17:27    Post subject:
Alright - fair enough.


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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 17:49    Post subject:
Land of the free
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helvete




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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 17:55    Post subject:
Ragedoctor wrote:
Ankh wrote:
"public peace" exactly HOW would dancing or kissing affect public peace? You think it would bring chaos and mayhem???


Im not defending the banning of kissing and dancing within monument grounds, Im attacking the people who still danced and kissed, KNOWING it would lead to a heavy police response. There are many ways to fight an injust law/rule and the one they picked is the most provocative and ineffective. Just in that moment they alienated all other people there that just wanted to enjoy that day within the monument grounds, because those people also had to leave because that bunch decided to play the attentionwhore.

Again dont misunderstand, Im not defending the fucking law. Im criticizing the way the protestors went about protesting against that law.

And just how do you suggest they fight the law? An internet petition? Civil disobedience gave India its independence. It's the most peaceful and effective way of fighting injustice. And you reasoning is backwards; the protestors didn't provoke the law, the law provoked a protest.

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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 17:58    Post subject:
helvete wrote:
Ragedoctor wrote:
Ankh wrote:
"public peace" exactly HOW would dancing or kissing affect public peace? You think it would bring chaos and mayhem???


Im not defending the banning of kissing and dancing within monument grounds, Im attacking the people who still danced and kissed, KNOWING it would lead to a heavy police response. There are many ways to fight an injust law/rule and the one they picked is the most provocative and ineffective. Just in that moment they alienated all other people there that just wanted to enjoy that day within the monument grounds, because those people also had to leave because that bunch decided to play the attentionwhore.

Again dont misunderstand, Im not defending the fucking law. Im criticizing the way the protestors went about protesting against that law.

And just how do you suggest they fight the law? An internet petition? Civil disobedience gave India its independence. It's the most peaceful and effective way of fighting injustice. And you reasoning is backwards; the protestors didn't provoke the law, the law provoked a protest.


I dont like the law which prevents me from forcing myself into your bedroom and dance, so Im going to force myself into your bedroom and dance. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 18:03    Post subject:
Ragedoctor wrote:
helvete wrote:
Ragedoctor wrote:


Im not defending the banning of kissing and dancing within monument grounds, Im attacking the people who still danced and kissed, KNOWING it would lead to a heavy police response. There are many ways to fight an injust law/rule and the one they picked is the most provocative and ineffective. Just in that moment they alienated all other people there that just wanted to enjoy that day within the monument grounds, because those people also had to leave because that bunch decided to play the attentionwhore.

Again dont misunderstand, Im not defending the fucking law. Im criticizing the way the protestors went about protesting against that law.

And just how do you suggest they fight the law? An internet petition? Civil disobedience gave India its independence. It's the most peaceful and effective way of fighting injustice. And you reasoning is backwards; the protestors didn't provoke the law, the law provoked a protest.


I dont like the law which prevents me from forcing myself into your bedroom and dance, so Im going to force myself into your bedroom and dance. Laughing


Well - as long as your a good dancer...


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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 18:21    Post subject:
Well you could do that Rage, and if you thought people would support you it would be a good idea to promote awareness of that stupid "anti-break-in-and-dancing-law". But you know no one would so it'd be pretty stupid, wouldn't it?
Following your line of reasoning we'd all die if someone passed a stupid law banning breathing. And Gandhi and Martin Luther King would only criminals.
Civil disobedience works, and is morally correct, when you have enough people behind you. The true power in a society is derived from its citizens, and if law-makers are out of touch with the interests of those citizens then the law-makers are wrong and the law should not be adhered to.


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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 18:24    Post subject:



lolz


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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 18:25    Post subject:
helvete wrote:
Well you could do that Rage, and if you thought people would support you it would be a good idea to promote awareness of that stupid "anti-break-in-and-dancing-law". But you know no one would so it'd be pretty stupid, wouldn't it?
Following your line of reasoning we'd all die if someone passed a stupid law banning breathing. And Gandhi and Martin Luther King would only criminals.
Civil disobedience works, and is morally correct, when you have enough people behind you. The true power in a society is derived from its citizens, and if law-makers are out of touch with the interests of those citizens then the law-makers are wrong and the law should not be adhered to.


I think you missed the point I was trying to make, the severity of the things that are wrong with the law should dictate what action to take, we'd all revolt if we werent allowed to breathe by the government, however a law that bans dancing and kissing on monumental grounds hardly needs to be protested against in the manner that was displayed. They could have gone to the media or authorities themselves rather than play the angry civil movement at the cost of everyones pleasure.


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helvete




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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 18:34    Post subject:
Gone to the media or authorities? Are you kidding me? Laughing
What they did IS going to the media. The proper media. They got people (like us) talking about it. It worked. So while you might not agree that the protest was called for, you can't possibly deny it's been far far more effective than whining about it to a politician who won't listen. And as the severity of the crime/law isn't all that imposing, well then neither is the breaking of that law.


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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 18:41    Post subject:
helvete wrote:
Gone to the media or authorities? Are you kidding me? Laughing
What they did IS going to the media. The proper media. They got people (like us) talking about it. It worked. So while you might not agree that the protest was called for, you can't possibly deny it's been far far more effective than whining about it to a politician who won't listen. And as the severity of the crime/law isn't all that imposing, well then neither is the breaking of that law.

Yes the goal has been reached, they have truly touched my heart for their cause and I will totally make sure the issue gets adressed. Rolling Eyes
Personally I'd love to see them get another beating for ruining the day for all other visitors, but ofcourse everything has to make way for your queer campaigne for justice. I cant believe you are honestly agreeing to this approach whilst it has clearly done more good than harm for other bystanders. I hope you did watch the entire video where the monument gets closed for the rest of the day because of the "rightful protests".
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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 19:27    Post subject:
This Ragedoctor guy is a funny troll.


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Ankh




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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 19:34    Post subject:
Ragedoctor wrote:
helvete wrote:
Gone to the media or authorities? Are you kidding me? Laughing
What they did IS going to the media. The proper media. They got people (like us) talking about it. It worked. So while you might not agree that the protest was called for, you can't possibly deny it's been far far more effective than whining about it to a politician who won't listen. And as the severity of the crime/law isn't all that imposing, well then neither is the breaking of that law.

Yes the goal has been reached, they have truly touched my heart for their cause and I will totally make sure the issue gets adressed. Rolling Eyes
Personally I'd love to see them get another beating for ruining the day for all other visitors, but ofcourse everything has to make way for your queer campaigne for justice. I cant believe you are honestly agreeing to this approach whilst it has clearly done more good than harm for other bystanders. I hope you did watch the entire video where the monument gets closed for the rest of the day because of the "rightful protests".


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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 19:41    Post subject:
Yeah I think my work here is done.


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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 20:03    Post subject:
Fuck those cops. I hope every one of them and their leadership gets fucked up the ass with a cane.

The people continue dancing because it's a public fucking place and we should be able to do anything we want. (Within reason) Saying you can't dance at a public place is a fucking disgrace.
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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 20:08    Post subject:
helvete wrote:
Yeah I think my work here is done.

Yeah it is if you decide to end a discussion like this, might just aswell put "u mad" or "but youre a nazi" in that post. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sun, 29th May 2011 21:49    Post subject:
Ragedoctor wrote:
helvete wrote:
Yeah I think my work here is done.

Yeah it is if you decide to end a discussion like this, might just aswell put "u mad" or "but youre a nazi" in that post. Laughing


He's just tired of feeding the trolls.


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