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| Posted: Tue, 9th Aug 2011 15:12 Post subject: |
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Corsair XMS3 1333 2x2GB
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Aug 2011 15:18 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | | Corsair XMS3 2x4GB 1600 CL9 |
16175 MB/s ?
Wow that's a lot
dingo_d has the same RAM Module but in 1333 MHz, how come the differences are so big ?
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Aug 2011 15:33 Post subject: |
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| b0se wrote: | | Frant wrote: | | Corsair XMS3 2x4GB 1600 CL9 |
16175 MB/s ?
Wow that's a lot
dingo_d has the same RAM Module but in 1333 MHz, how come the differences are so big ? |
Higher clock, 8GB instead of 4GB, better quality? Better processor, dunno :\
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Aug 2011 15:37 Post subject: |
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Ehm how does this determine the fastest RAM? Sorry, this method determines the fastest combination of CPU/RAM & MAINBOARD.
If you want to actually get the fastest RAM look out for reviews were all modules are tested in the exactly same machine with same cpu & mobo...
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Aug 2011 15:51 Post subject: |
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And RAM speeds are pointless anyway unless you give a fuck about synthetic benchmarks 
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Aug 2011 16:11 Post subject: |
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My advice is to buy the cheapest Ram possible.
You won`t notice nay difference (well in benchmarks only). You don`t need any "dual channel kits" - it`s all voodoo.
What Werelds said is all you need to know about ram.
For the price of the Ram you posted, you can get 8 GB of Ram (at least where I live).
Edit:
If 4 GB is enough and you NEED 1600MHz these will do:
http://www.pcgarage.ro/memorii/sycron/2gb-ddr3-1600mhz-cl9/
if 1333 is enough take a look:
http://www.pcgarage.ro/memorii/a-data/2gb-ddr3-1333mhz-cl9/
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Aug 2011 16:16 Post subject: |
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Dingo_d: What the hell...? Why the crappy timings??
9-12-12-30 CR2? Those timings definitely impact performance. You should run those @ 9-9-9-24 CR1 without a problem.
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Aug 2011 16:20 Post subject: |
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^ ... plus, he's probably not having his ram at dual-channel mode as well.
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Aug 2011 17:21 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | Dingo_d: What the hell...? Why the crappy timings??
9-12-12-30 CR2? Those timings definitely impact performance. You should run those @ 9-9-9-24 CR1 without a problem. |
Well I thought about changing that, but I was always kinda afraid I'd mess sth up 
I'll try to see how easily I can change that in bios, it shouldn't be a problem, right?
P.S. if my comp suddenly blows up I'm holding you responsible Frant  
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Aug 2011 17:27 Post subject: |
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What is the exact model of your RAM, dingo? Why don't you check on either your box or in the site of Corsair what set of timings is exactly recommended?
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Everything was set on Auto in BIOS, I changed it but I dk what to do with tRC timings (it's still 34 clocks), and I couldn't find how to change CR to CR1 in bios :\
the results now are:
The change is minute. I'll update my bios (current is v. 1.4, to 1.7 and see if sth new will pop up for timings)...
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Aug 2011 19:07 Post subject: |
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It's not called CR1/CR2 in any BIOS I've seen, no idea what AIDA64 is using that term. It differs from different BIOSes, but you'll be looking for one of these...
1T/2T Memory Timing
DRAM Command Rate (1T or 2T)
Command Rate
Active_to_CMD(Trcd)
Trcd
Command per Clock (CMD)
It will say Auto or 2T. Set it to 1T.
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Aug 2011 19:33 Post subject: |
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Yeah, I realized that it's T1/T2
I updated my bios and new options were shown so I set the things as you recommended, and now the results are:
Altho I really cannot say I feel any noticeable difference (a 2 ns boost woohoo xD)
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Aug 2011 19:37 Post subject: |
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| human_steel wrote: | | ^ ... plus, he's probably not having his ram at dual-channel mode as well. |
Oh and I have set my ram @dual channel, I know how to read manual
unganged just means:
| Quote: | | ... each memory controller gets its own channel and dosen't have to fight with another memory controller to interleave the memory reads and writes. |
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Aug 2011 20:31 Post subject: |
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Not sure if you still need the help, but here's mine...
Corsair Dominator memory, btw.
edit: And I'm running 12Gb of it as well, if that makes any difference.
Hobo Zombie: TRAAAAAAAIIIINNNNNNSSSSSS
Woman Zombie: COMPLAAAAAAAIIIIIIINNNNNSSSSS
Englishmen Zombie: REFRAAAAAAAAAIIIIIINNNNNSSSSS
Thanks for the idea Lutz!
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| Posted: Tue, 9th Aug 2011 20:33 Post subject: |
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| human_steel wrote: | 
Corsair Vengeance 1600Mhz CL8. The CPU isn't clocked (the frequency you see on the image is because of the effect of the turbo function). |
And this is why I want a sandybridge cpu...
Hobo Zombie: TRAAAAAAAIIIINNNNNNSSSSSS
Woman Zombie: COMPLAAAAAAAIIIIIIINNNNNSSSSS
Englishmen Zombie: REFRAAAAAAAAAIIIIIINNNNNSSSSS
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| Posted: Wed, 10th Aug 2011 09:18 Post subject: |
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| Frant wrote: | | dingo_d wrote: | Yeah, I realized that it's T1/T2
I updated my bios and new options were shown so I set the things as you recommended, and now the results are:
Altho I really cannot say I feel any noticeable difference (a 2 ns boost woohoo xD) |
Well, performance made a jump but I suspect your motherboard/CPU just isn't up to it. After all, you're running a low-budget CPU and I doubt the on-CPU memory controllers are working particularly fast. You don't even have L3-cache on that chip. A new CPU might be a good idea, esp. since AMD Phenom II quad-cores are so cheap. You've got an AM3-board which means you could even pick a 6-core Phenom II. 
Or you start overclocking that bitch, running your stuff stock is just silly, I haven't run stock since 1997. |
I was looking at 6 core Phenoms but the price is still to high for my non existent budget xD
First I need to get me some more space (I need new HD), and then I'll consider buying new proc.
But the great thing is that I really can upgrade without changing the MBO, which is a major plus
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
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| b0se wrote: | | human_steel wrote: |
Corsair Vengeance 1600Mhz CL8. The CPU isn't clocked (the frequency you see on the image is because of the effect of the turbo function). |
Why you no overclock your CPU ? |
He's trolling us poor people! 
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| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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| Posted: Wed, 10th Aug 2011 17:29 Post subject: |
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I personally don't have the time nor the nerves to do overclocking now and the eventual stress-testing afterwards. Moreover, the CPU is really powerful enough the way it is now.
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| Posted: Wed, 10th Aug 2011 18:16 Post subject: |
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| human_steel wrote: | | Moreover, the CPU is really powerful enough the way it is now. |
That's not the point. The point is that you have all this untapped performance/power that is just sitting there being wasted.
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| Posted: Wed, 10th Aug 2011 18:26 Post subject: |
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I'm happy as it is now. Plus, read the first sentence again.
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