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 Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 15:07 Post subject: Crytek treats their staff like disposable pieces of meat |
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http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=30675621&postcount=1
Way to go Yerli.
| Quote: | The work of all individuals responsible for the games should be immensely proud of what they have achieved under the circumstances of a bullying mentality given at CEO level. Monthly meetings were met with speeches worthy of YouTube in hilarity with lines such as “You should all be so proud to work for Crytek”, yet demanding six months of crunch time due to project management failures. This caused certain members of staff to suffer both in medical and personal ways.
This polluted work atmosphere has resulted in the resignation and / or unlawfully firing of:
Global Talent Manager
Global Head of Resourceful Humans
Lead Games Designer / Senior AI Designer
Lead Community Manager
Community Manager
Lead Researcher
Storyboard and Concept Artist
Concept Artist
Producer
Executive Producer
Chief Finance Officer
Senior Level Designer
Level/Environment Artist
Technical Artist
Level Designer/s
Web Developer |
More at the above link.
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Frant
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 15:14 Post subject: |
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Cevat Yerli clearly got megalomania, feeling like a Goa'uld Systemlord.
Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!
"The sky was the color of a TV tuned to a dead station" - Neuromancer
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 15:39 Post subject: |
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What's the problem? People being fired and leaving? Isn't that common practice in game development? Dev studios are in constant flux afaik.
PS. I didn't know there was an "amazement bubble" around Crytek.
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 15:41 Post subject: |
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Are these positions available?
Lead Researcher
Level/Environment Artist
Global Talent Manager
I could apply 
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ixigia
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 15:43 Post subject: |
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I hope
-that all the people that left/got fired find a better replacement soon
-that the company fails, leaving Orly and his inflated ego forever alone
And nothing of value was lost that day 
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 15:44 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | What's the problem? People being fired and leaving? Isn't that common practice in game development? Dev studios are in constant flux afaik.
PS. I didn't know there was an "amazement bubble" around Crytek. |
Click the link
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 15:46 Post subject: |
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He just wants to make Crysis 3 the best game ever. That's why he's been putting lots of pressure and demand on his employees to work harder.
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Sin317
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 15:47 Post subject: |
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consolitis, way to troll ...
before commenting on the above quotes, i highly suggest reading the whole thing, before saying any more stupid things on some out of context quotes of questionables sources ...
and i dont like crysis or any games coming from crytek, but i prefer to be fair ...
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 15:49 Post subject: |
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| Sin317 wrote: | consolitis, way to troll ...
before commenting on the above quotes, i highly suggest reading the whole thing, before saying any more stupid things on some out of context quotes of questionables sources ...
and i dont like crysis or any games coming from crytek, but i prefer to be fair ... |
Troll? Click the link.
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tonizito
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 15:52 Post subject: |
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I wonder if the portuguese dude that worked there was also fired/left the company.
Oh and Cevat can suck my balls!
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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Sin317
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 15:53 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | | Sin317 wrote: | consolitis, way to troll ...
before commenting on the above quotes, i highly suggest reading the whole thing, before saying any more stupid things on some out of context quotes of questionables sources ...
and i dont like crysis or any games coming from crytek, but i prefer to be fair ... |
Troll? Click the link. |
i did click the link and read the WHOLE thing and it seems like someone took something out of context, added a few lies to it and presented it half baked to some media site ...
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 15:57 Post subject: |
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Did you read the very first sentence?
It refers to someone working in the industry commenting:
| Quote: | | My sources make me way more inclined to believe that blog more than CryTek upper management and PR. |
a few posts bellow. And another one replying "same here" and providing inside info:
| Quote: | | Edit: Staff crunched at Crytek earlier than February 2010. Around that time "MAXIMUM CRUNCH" became a running joke around the german industry. The claimed 3 months are ridiculous. |
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 16:19 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | | Mister_s wrote: | What's the problem? People being fired and leaving? Isn't that common practice in game development? Dev studios are in constant flux afaik.
PS. I didn't know there was an "amazement bubble" around Crytek. |
Click the link |
I did, both sides make good points. Why would I believe one side more than the other?
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 16:30 Post subject: |
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I don't see anything wrong. I'm in the software development industry, and let me tell you people tend to leave more than get fired. I know a guy who's basically just been travelling countries working for a year or so for different companies then moving on. Of course he's very good at what he does so it's expected really.
OK, someone else agree with me and say "same here" so consolitis will accept my word as fact.
Gustave the Steel
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 16:35 Post subject: |
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| Mister_s wrote: | | consolitis wrote: | | Mister_s wrote: | What's the problem? People being fired and leaving? Isn't that common practice in game development? Dev studios are in constant flux afaik.
PS. I didn't know there was an "amazement bubble" around Crytek. |
Click the link |
I did, both sides make good points. Why would I believe one side more than the other? |
Well for one the management wouldn't say "yes we are terrible, don't work for us".
So it comes to the validity of that blog post. Either it's a troll, or..?
And given a couple of responses in that thread by people working in the industry and the huge amount of issues Crysis 2 had (and I am not talking about "oh noez teh texturez r lo rez", I am talking about the Nanocatalyst bug, the completely broken AI, the appearing/disappearing decals, the z-fighting on some surfaces, the broken animations, the "we didn't catch 2 AI bugs" confession of Cevat, and the "we didn't have time to do DX11 on launch") I am going to guess that indeed they were in crunch mode for a long time.
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 16:37 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | staff to suffer both in medical and personal ways. |
| AKofC wrote: | | I don't see anything wrong. |
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 16:39 Post subject: |
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From the number of resignations given won't the current projects be cancelled?
1 and 2 are still amazing.
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 16:41 Post subject: |
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| yuri999 wrote: | | From the number of resignations given won't the current projects be cancelled? |
Nobody is irreplaceable.
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 16:44 Post subject: |
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they treat their fucking CUSTOMERS like shit, so its nice to know its atleast a consistent company...
dont know why you bolded out "staff suffering in both medical and personal ways".. its incredibly misleading without context... i mean if someone has a headache or stubs their toe because they were running, or had to miss out on a couple of weekends of downtime, its hardly that big of an issue....
now if there were suicides or people were cutting themselves because they couldnt take the pain of having to dumb down crysis 2 constantly, i could understand... so context plz, what medical problems?
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 16:44 Post subject: |
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I still don't know why some comments on a blog/forum are more reliably than an interview, but I'll let it rest. The big evil company is naturally always evil.
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chiv
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 17:05 Post subject: |
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really? i woulda gone with extreme brain trauma
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 17:06 Post subject: |
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Don't you mean "maximum"?
TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"
~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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chiv
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 17:16 Post subject: |
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Nurse: DOCTOR... DOCTOR, COME QUICK!
Doc: whats wrong, nurse
Nurse: CRYSIS 2... THEYRE BRINGING HIM IN NOW... ITS REALLY BAD!
Doc: how bad?
Nurse: BRAIN TRAUMA
Doc: what kind?
Nurse: MAXIMUM!
Doc: ... mother of god...
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| Posted: Mon, 5th Sep 2011 17:38 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | | Quote: | | staff to suffer both in medical and personal ways. |
| AKofC wrote: | | I don't see anything wrong. |
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The source is coming from who? The guys who filed the lawsuit against Crytek demanding more cash? Why, whatever basis could they possibly have for demanding such. Oh wait let me guess. Is it because they suffered both in medical and personal ways? But if you're readily willing to believe their side, why aren't you readily willing to believe Crytek's? They both have no ample evidence apart from allegations.
Again, as of now this is just lopsided. The only reason I'm more willing to believe Crytek is that I've been in software development for a couple of years now, and in the corporate world, it's really more back stabbing between employees. It's more likely that those people simply left after Crytek refused to give in to certain demands or they scouted by another company and so on. Most developers don't stay long in one place if they're ambitious.
So be more level headed and rational when it comes to believing reports without any proper evidence and only alleged sources.
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