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sausje
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 Posted: Wed, 31st Aug 2011 18:55 Post subject: BSOD?! Help... |
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Well as some of you might know, i bought new hardware a couple of weeks ago.
Now suddenly, out of nothing, i started getting BSOD atleast 2x per day.
Most of them came when i had my pc running idle and i was sleeping or so.
The error involves mostly 0x0000007A, but there is not much clear info on that error.
Typical is that somehow a *.sys file always is in that BSOD, plus the fact that creating the dump file ALWAYS fails...
Img of last time i got it: http://i.imgur.com/ZtbYC.jpg
Anyone got any idea what this might could be, all parts in this pc are new (except for power supply.)
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Aug 2011 19:11 Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Resolving the Problem
Stop 0x7A is usually caused by a bad block (sector) in a paging file, a virus, a disk controller error, or failing RAM. In rare cases, it is caused when nonpaged pool resources run out. It is also caused by defective hardware. |
| Quote: | | Failing RAM. Another common cause of this error message is failing RAM. |
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc939024.aspx
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sausje
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Aug 2011 19:13 Post subject: |
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Well like i said, all hardware is new, and is kinda top notch stuff.
Seems stupid that out of the blue this suddenly starts happening, any clue tho how i can narrow the search down? So i dont have to send everything back?
Because i cant recreate the error, and i hate having no pc avaible for 4 weeks of them testing. 
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Aug 2011 19:14 Post subject: |
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Ram or disk.
Try swapping ram sticks (places on mobo), and try running chkdisk...
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sausje
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Aug 2011 19:25 Post subject: |
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Ah i didnt see that it was pointed to ram already, i kinda tought it was HDD or ram.
I did hear however that my SSD, the vertex3, sometimes tends to fail on some systems, your 100% sure that its not my SSD causing this?
As for ram, im having "Kingston HyperX 4 GB DDR3-1333" Link to dutch website about what ram
Was getting this ram a good choise or a bad one anyway?
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Aug 2011 20:28 Post subject: |
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Nothing wrong with Kingston. Do you have multiple chips?
Run memtest, let it pass several times. Swap the chips, run again. RAM is the first thing to check and easiest to replace. Unfortunately, it might be your motherboard, my motherboard was broken as well. Went through 3 sets of RAM (MyCom!), then sent my mobo back to the online store I got it from for RMA. Got a new one back, no problems since.
With that board, the *second* bank was broken. It would always throw the errors in the second half of addresses 
Just swapping sticks isn't enough, you need to run memtest. Takes some time though
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Aug 2011 20:51 Post subject: |
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Make sure you have firmware 2.11 for your Vertex 3.
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sausje
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Aug 2011 21:36 Post subject: |
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@Werelds
I will run a memtest tonight and get back with results 2morrow for ya.
@Frant
How do i check what firmware im currently running on the disk, and IF i would upgrade, would i loose all my data?
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sausje
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| Posted: Wed, 31st Aug 2011 23:55 Post subject: |
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Actually scratch that, i cant do it atm.
No usb stick/dvd burner cant be connected (IDE:( )
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Sep 2011 00:14 Post subject: |
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Go outside, I'll throw one over 
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Sep 2011 01:52 Post subject: |
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Are timmings for your RAM properly set?
| ManMountain wrote: | | It could well be RAM related but I'd lean towards saying 0x0000007A is related to your SSD. If you search OCZ's SSD forums section, you'll find it's littered with folk experiencing that very fault, amongst many other issues. |
Good thing I didn't buy SSD disk then. Was planning to but now I think I'll just stick to regular HDD.
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sausje
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Sep 2011 02:11 Post subject: |
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@Werelds
If only we didnt live like 10 whole km's away from eachother ffs!
@ManMountain
Just checked, currently running v2.06, but doing an update WILL make me loose my data right?
So it might can be the case of me just having a bad SSD and have to replace it and be lucky?!
@wygosnik23
My ram is just straight out of the box into the mainboard, that shoudnt cause any issues asfar as i know right...?
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| sausje wrote: | @wygosnik23
My ram is just straight out of the box into the mainboard, that shoudnt cause any issues asfar as i know right...? |
You may go to BIOS and check thier frequency. It should be set to 1333Mhz or something. But most likely this BSOD is caused by SSD, just like guys here have already said.
| sausje wrote: | | but doing an update WILL make me loose my data right? |
Quote from OCZ's website:
| OCZ wrote: | | Please do not update firmware unless absolutely necessary. Firmware updates may result in loss of user data and we recommend you back up your data before updating the firmware. |
You would not necessarily lose your data but the risk is high.
Try swapping this SSD with an old HDD (if you have one) for a few days and see what happens. (Or back up your data and do the firmware update.)
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sausje
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| Posted: Thu, 1st Sep 2011 09:55 Post subject: |
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Currently, i only got 1 other hdd (wich is my 10.000rpm raptor) but i have a feeling sometimes is broken on that hdd aswell.
Bad thing is, that i cannot reinstall this week as im not having an SATA discdrive.
My old burner is still IDE and didnt had the money yet to buy a SATA one
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Sep 2011 12:42 Post subject: |
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@Werelds
I can safely presume now that its not my ram, but the SSD right?
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Sep 2011 16:44 Post subject: |
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Looks fine like that, yeah.
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Sep 2011 19:37 Post subject: |
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Dude don't bother... i have exactly the same problems and i thought i got mental until i got this blue screen
I tried everything.. upgraded drivers.. disable OC... memtests hd tests but it seems the version of windows that is the problem. You probably are using the evalution version.
Search a bit on this issue and you see problems from people with all kind of different errors BSOD
Seems its fixable with downloading a new FULL release copy and choose upgrade while installing. After that a new loader and you should be good to go.
Im now gonna install the upgrade cause i cant be bothered to reinstall everything atm, ill update when i know some more.
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Sep 2011 19:40 Post subject: |
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Like i said... just look at your version you use. Loads of people are reporting this problems atm. My BSOD where about kernel power/paging/ntfs.sys etc etc etc
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Sep 2011 20:03 Post subject: |
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| Lathieza wrote: | | Like i said... just look at your version you use. Loads of people are reporting this problems atm. My BSOD where about kernel power/paging/ntfs.sys etc etc etc |
So your referring that this might be a windows error and not my SSD?
Your making me confused now :s
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Sep 2011 20:43 Post subject: |
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the intel's SSD had such an issue + the loss of all information. they even made a patch, that increased the problem...
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Sep 2011 20:44 Post subject: |
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Just check your windows version... If you run the 7600 series its probably the cause of your problems. Seems microsoft had something in SP1 what makes this version unusable after a certain time. Because of the loader or whatever you used you get different problems like different BSOD.
My problems started in the same period as yours and that combined with loads of other users im pretty sure thats your problem.
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sausje
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Sep 2011 20:46 Post subject: |
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| Lathieza wrote: | Just check your windows version... If you run the 7600 series its probably the cause of your problems. Seems microsoft had something in SP1 what makes this version unusable after a certain time. Because of the loader or whatever you used you get different problems like different BSOD.
My problems started in the same period as yours and that combined with loads of other users im pretty sure thats your problem. |
My install is only few weeks old tho..
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| kumkss wrote: | | the intel's SSD had such an issue + the loss of all information. they even made a patch, that increased the problem... |
So basically most SSD's are still buggy as fuck, even the "second generation" ones?
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Sep 2011 21:05 Post subject: |
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Yep your using the old version. Same problem i have. My update didnt work either ffs
I just had 3 BSOD trying to get into this install again, and all mentioned harddisk problems.
My advice try to get the latest version you can find.
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sausje
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Sep 2011 21:08 Post subject: |
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This WAS the latest it could find on the usenet...
But i highly doubt mine has to do with windows, as all pointed out that its most likely the OCZ ssd that i got.
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Sep 2011 21:12 Post subject: |
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No, you just need to update the firmware on most to avoid issues.
SandForce (i.e. Corsair Force, Vertex): update to avoid the damn thing bricking itself randomly
Micron (i.e. Crucial M4): grab latest update to get more consistent and even higher performance
Intel (i.e....really?): Even latest update can still corrupt some data, but never to the extent where you lose everything
SSDs are still very new technology, none of the controllers are bug free yet, you need to make sure you're on the latest (stable) firmware before you start using them
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| Posted: Fri, 2nd Sep 2011 21:16 Post subject: |
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@Werelds
Yea well, i cannot update my drive atm.
I tryed doing it, and it coudnt because it has the system running on it.
So in order for me to be able to update firmwire, i have to do:
-Backup Important data
-Get a new HDD
-Install windows on that new HDD
-Update firmware SSD
-Install windows SSD
-Put data back
Now as i dont have a spare HDD atm for a temp windows install, i cant do it
Unless you have some spare time to come over and help me out 
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