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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 17:13    Post subject: Marine knows better on how to behave like a cop


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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 17:19    Post subject:
he kept saying theres no honor in this well theres no honor "fighthing" in Iraq or Afghanistan either..



and why even bother telling the police their mistakes? Those who abuse their power dont listen anyways
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 17:23    Post subject:
Is there any honor in western culture anymore anyways?
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 17:30    Post subject:
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Is there any honor in western culture anymore anyways?

Eastern culture is much better. Rolling Eyes "Come here whore, let me cut off your clitoris so you don't enjoy sex!" "Come here whore, you said these formidable gentlemen raped you and you even have proof? Obviously you seduced them or otherwise tricked them into your bed; stoning to death!" Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 17:34    Post subject:
We're all victims of culture.
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 17:58    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Stormwolf wrote:
Is there any honor in western culture anymore anyways?

Eastern culture is much better. Rolling Eyes "Come here whore, let me cut off your clitoris so you don't enjoy sex!" "Come here whore, you said these formidable gentlemen raped you and you even have proof? Obviously you seduced them or otherwise tricked them into your bed; stoning to death!" Rolling Eyes


Dude, you probably mean SOUTH, as it is more prevalent in Africa than anywhere else in the world: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_genital_mutilation


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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 18:09    Post subject:
I was thinking about some parts of the "Asian" culture, but sure, Africa is a good example as well.
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 18:57    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
I was thinking about some parts of the "Asian" culture, but sure, Africa is a good example as well.


This sort of sick stuff is not limited to one area or culture. It is unfortunately present and widespread throughout the seediest underbellies of all places.



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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 19:00    Post subject:
Yes, but it is a lot more widespread on some areas rather than other. As much as we LOL at the US, you'd be hard-pressed to find such barbaric rituals. And the ones I put were just examples.
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 20:17    Post subject:
iNatan wrote:
Yes, but it is a lot more widespread on some areas rather than other. As much as we LOL at the US, you'd be hard-pressed to find such barbaric rituals. And the ones I put were just examples.


I dunno, the mass-consumption of fat, the mass self-mutilation (aka "plastic surgery" of (mainly) women due to crazy fucking norms, the police brutality, the raping of young boys in the catholic church, the nutty fucking Amish traditions, the large scale political and economic corruption, the diatribe of degeneration among fox news-republicans, the extreme ignorance towards lower classes and so on and so forth is pretty fucking barbaric in my view.


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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 21:27    Post subject:
fisk wrote:
iNatan wrote:
Yes, but it is a lot more widespread on some areas rather than other. As much as we LOL at the US, you'd be hard-pressed to find such barbaric rituals. And the ones I put were just examples.


I dunno, the mass-consumption of fat, the mass self-mutilation (aka "plastic surgery" of (mainly) women due to crazy fucking norms, the police brutality, the raping of young boys in the catholic church, the nutty fucking Amish traditions, the large scale political and economic corruption, the diatribe of degeneration among fox news-republicans, the extreme ignorance towards lower classes and so on and so forth is pretty fucking barbaric in my view.


I was not aware that plastic surgery only happened in the US. Also good to know the rest of the world has no police brutality. Slightly confused about the Catholic church and the Amish being founded in the US, I could have sworn those were in other countries, but that must be due to my poor US education. The scandles I hear about foreign politicians must be lies by our evil news corporations, as well as the class envy we hear so much of in countries such as Greece.

In other words, try to grow up just a little bit and remotely begin to use your brain and think for yourself. You sound like a complete idiot when you spout off this "usa R fukin looosers LOL" I do not know where you live, nor do I care. I am sure your country has many wonderful things to it, and many that are not; just like the rest of the world. What possible good does it do you to bemoan and belittle another place, one that you probably haven't been too and never will?

Oh and before the inevitable "Why you mad bro?" and troll-face bullshit comes; using those does nothing but reinforce that you have no valid response. Much like the childhood response of "I know you are but what am I?"


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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 21:45    Post subject:
Thenjhar wrote:
fisk wrote:
iNatan wrote:
Yes, but it is a lot more widespread on some areas rather than other. As much as we LOL at the US, you'd be hard-pressed to find such barbaric rituals. And the ones I put were just examples.


I dunno, the mass-consumption of fat, the mass self-mutilation (aka "plastic surgery" of (mainly) women due to crazy fucking norms, the police brutality, the raping of young boys in the catholic church, the nutty fucking Amish traditions, the large scale political and economic corruption, the diatribe of degeneration among fox news-republicans, the extreme ignorance towards lower classes and so on and so forth is pretty fucking barbaric in my view.


I was not aware that plastic surgery only happened in the US. Also good to know the rest of the world has no police brutality. Slightly confused about the Catholic church and the Amish being founded in the US, I could have sworn those were in other countries, but that must be due to my poor US education. The scandles I hear about foreign politicians must be lies by our evil news corporations, as well as the class envy we hear so much of in countries such as Greece.

In other words, try to grow up just a little bit and remotely begin to use your brain and think for yourself. You sound like a complete idiot when you spout off this "usa R fukin looosers LOL" I do not know where you live, nor do I care. I am sure your country has many wonderful things to it, and many that are not; just like the rest of the world. What possible good does it do you to bemoan and belittle another place, one that you probably haven't been too and never will?

Oh and before the inevitable "Why you mad bro?" and troll-face bullshit comes; using those does nothing but reinforce that you have no valid response. Much like the childhood response of "I know you are but what am I?"
Haha don't even bother dude. USA-bashing is a protected right on this forum.
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 21:52    Post subject:
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I was not aware that plastic surgery only happened in the US.


You do know that he was saying "not happening in the U.S", right? And that I put forth some examples that barbaric shit DOES happen in the U.S.

The reason USA is so often demonized by a lot of people is because of how fucking holy americans and (thus) hypocritical the USA looks to the rest of the world. With its "We're saving the world/protecting freedom and democracy"-bullshit.

The fact that it happens elsewhere in the world doesn't make it any better.


I think that there are plenty of smart, educated, reasonable Americans out there, unfortunately they are a minority. No other country as a whole is much better, I agree with you there (certainly not mine). But most of them don't go out and pretend to be better either while doing stupid shit on such a grand scale, and that is why it rubs many (including me) the wrong way.


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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 21:57    Post subject:
fisk wrote:
iNatan wrote:
Yes, but it is a lot more widespread on some areas rather than other. As much as we LOL at the US, you'd be hard-pressed to find such barbaric rituals. And the ones I put were just examples.


I dunno, the mass-consumption of fat, the mass self-mutilation (aka "plastic surgery" of (mainly) women due to crazy fucking norms, the police brutality, the raping of young boys in the catholic church, the nutty fucking Amish traditions, the large scale political and economic corruption, the diatribe of degeneration among fox news-republicans, the extreme ignorance towards lower classes and so on and so forth is pretty fucking barbaric in my view.

So if push comes to shove, and you are force to pick between living in the USA and Saudi Arabia (or some other shithole in Africa), you'd go for Arabia? Give me a fucking break. Because that is what I meant. While USA is one of the worst of "developed" countries, it is still infinitely better than the other parts of the world with "different" "cultures".
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iNatan wrote:
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iNatan wrote:
Yes, but it is a lot more widespread on some areas rather than other. As much as we LOL at the US, you'd be hard-pressed to find such barbaric rituals. And the ones I put were just examples.


I dunno, the mass-consumption of fat, the mass self-mutilation (aka "plastic surgery" of (mainly) women due to crazy fucking norms, the police brutality, the raping of young boys in the catholic church, the nutty fucking Amish traditions, the large scale political and economic corruption, the diatribe of degeneration among fox news-republicans, the extreme ignorance towards lower classes and so on and so forth is pretty fucking barbaric in my view.

So if push comes to shove, and you are force to pick between living in the USA and Saudi Arabia (or some other shithole in Africa), you'd go for Arabia? Give me a fucking break. Because that is what I meant. While USA is one of the worst of "developed" countries, it is still infinitely better than the other parts of the world with "different" "cultures".


If push came to shove, I wouldn't live in any of those two countries. As for how it is to live in Saudi Arabia, I don't really know. Do you? Have you researched how it is to live there? Or is it the typical Israeli "every muslim nation is a terrorist-nation" dogma spoon fed to you, as it is spoon fed to a lot of them about Israel?


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Haha don't even bother dude. USA-bashing is a protected right on this forum.


I can understand how frustrating it must be. I probably would've been beaten up or shot if I ever said something similar in the U.S. They should put me away or mute me, right? Because that is the proper way to deal with opinions that besmirch your lovely nation?

You know what happens if I call Sweden a shitty ass country with a broken political system (which it has)? People either just shrug and think I'm just clueless, or ignore me, or agree with me.

But I'm sure you prefer the former, amirite?


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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 22:14    Post subject:
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I've been posting here for so many years and you ask me that?
But indeed, living in Saudi Arabia seems fun:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-beheaded-in-saudi-arabia-for-being-88892
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/12/saudi-man-could-be-stoned-to-death-for-adultery-with-ex-wife-who-had-no-idea-she-had-been-divorced.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/07/09/the-world-s-most-barbaric-punishments.html


That fucking sucks man, but you know - nothing of this is any worse than what goes on in the good old USA. Where black people still to this day get abused (or worse) by police, where cops kill civilians or where the justice system (for serious) puts so many people in prison for drug possession that it's not even funny.

But you're right, no one is getting stoned to death for cheating on their husbands. Instead the justice system in USA allows for guilty murderers to get away with murder (O.J Simpson anyone?) because they're famous or rich. That is so much better.


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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 22:34    Post subject:
fisk wrote:
iNatan wrote:


I've been posting here for so many years and you ask me that?
But indeed, living in Saudi Arabia seems fun:
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/man-beheaded-in-saudi-arabia-for-being-88892
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2011/12/saudi-man-could-be-stoned-to-death-for-adultery-with-ex-wife-who-had-no-idea-she-had-been-divorced.html
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2010/07/09/the-world-s-most-barbaric-punishments.html


That fucking sucks man, but you know - nothing of this is any worse than what goes on in the good old USA. Where black people still to this day get abused (or worse) by police, where cops kill civilians or where the justice system (for serious) puts so many people in prison for drug possession that it's not even funny.

But you're right, no one is getting stoned to death for cheating on their husbands. Instead the justice system in USA allows for guilty murderers to get away with murder (O.J Simpson anyone?) because they're famous or rich. That is so much better.


You forgot pedophiles walking free! Wink
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 22:39    Post subject:
Right they don't walk free in Saudi Arabia or Germany or other parts of Europe. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 23:17    Post subject:
fisk wrote:
tainted4ever wrote:
Haha don't even bother dude. USA-bashing is a protected right on this forum.


I can understand how frustrating it must be. I probably would've been beaten up or shot if I ever said something similar in the U.S. They should put me away or mute me, right? Because that is the proper way to deal with opinions that besmirch your lovely nation?

You know what happens if I call Sweden a shitty ass country with a broken political system (which it has)? People either just shrug and think I'm just clueless, or ignore me, or agree with me.

But I'm sure you prefer the former, amirite?
You're such a troll. I'm not going to even bother replying Laughing Have fun with your little internet games, angry man Wink

The fact that you're even allowed to post your vitriol here so often shows the level these forums have fallen to.

But oops, I better not say anything else. Or I might get a temp ban Laughing You on the other hand, feel free to keep up with the hateful posts and mindless USA bashing. Perfectly acceptable behavior here of course Smile

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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 23:33    Post subject:
FYI, he's not a Marine. Either that or was a marine and isn't anymore. He is out of uniform, and if anyone in his command saw that video he'd get in serious trouble. He's also got the facial hair which is also a complete no-no. And no, I doubt he has a shaving waiver as his facial hair is 'stylish' and not just trimmed.


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Seems like he's a Marine there.
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 23:43    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmVvWBJVtxY

Seems like he's a Marine there.


'Marine Corps Veteran' and wearing clothing he shouldn't be, and acting like he is still an active service member. I've got no problem with his message, but he is abusing the uniform.
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 23:47    Post subject:
Well you're the military guy here, but as far as I know - armed forces are allowed to wear civilian clothing when they're on leave. Seeing as how he claims to have just come back from two tours, I presume that means he's on leave and is given authority to wear what he wants. No? He's just wearing a desert jacket and showing off his medals, something else I wasn't aware was prohibited.

I think the reason he's wearing those is to show the police that he's not just another civvie so that they don't stick a baton up his ass Laughing

Looking around some more, it seems wearing camouflage utilities when off duty is prohibited, so perhaps that desert jacket he's wearing (half wearing.. since it's not even buttoned Very Happy) is what you mean by wearing clothing he shouldn't be?
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Well you're the military guy here, but as far as I know - armed forces are allowed to wear civilian clothing when they're on leave. Seeing as how he claims to have just come back from two tours, I presume that means he's on leave and is given authority to wear what he wants. No? He's just wearing a desert jacket and showing off his medals, something else I wasn't aware was prohibited.

I think the reason he's wearing those is to show the police that he's not just another civvie so that they don't stick a baton up his ass Laughing


Service members are only authorized to wear the utility uniform while at their duty location or doing something related to their duties.

Further, he isn't on leave. It said 'Veteran' which means he got out, or got kicked out. So he isn't allowed to wear the uniform anymore. He could keep the uniform, but he can't wear it like that.

Frankly, I doubt he is even a veteran. There are a number of people who finely craft the lie that they were in the service - But never actually were.
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PostPosted: Sat, 25th Feb 2012 23:58    Post subject:
Yeah, but since this stuff is from 2011 and has been passed around the internet like a cheap whore, as well as appearing on national television, surely he would have been outed as a fraud if that were the case? As for saying "veteran" - it was my understanding that a vet is someone who has extended experience. He'd still be a veteran after serving two years in a combat zone, whether he's left or still part of the military or not.

Or not?
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Feb 2012 00:01    Post subject:
sabin1981 wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MmVvWBJVtxY

Seems like he's a Marine there.
wow, he is a calm rational person after all Smile
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Yeah, but since this stuff is from 2011 and has been passed around the internet like a cheap whore, as well as appearing on national television, surely he would have been outed as a fraud if that were the case? As for saying "veteran" - it was my understanding that a vet is someone who has extended experience. He'd still be a veteran after serving two years in a combat zone, whether he's left or still part of the military or not.

Or not?


Anyone who served an honorable term of enlistment could be called a veteran.


I have no idea if he is a faker or not; What I can tell you is that most anyone who has a shred of honor for his service wouldn't abuse his uniform like that. People who are real veterans typically don't have the attitude of walking around like an attention whore bringing that fact up.
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PostPosted: Sun, 26th Feb 2012 00:21    Post subject:
I'm not sure why you're so angry with the guy or what he was doing. He hasn't been whoring it up, rather he's been standing up for the people you military guys claim to do on a daily basis anyhow. Except rather than doing it in a conflict zone, something he has already done for several years (if he's telling the truth), he's now doing it where it matters the most; at home. Protecting innocent people from abuse and brutality.

Who cares how he chooses to do that? If wearing his medals and/or jacket helps legitimise his voice when sounding off to the police, so what? Power to him. As Sev said; he was calm, rational, helpful and he acted as a barrier between innocent civilised protesters and aggressive police. It's not like he was profiteering off his military background/etc.
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