So, I'm getting myself a new car - as I'm supremely sick of dealing with the hassle of used cars.
I've scoured the web for the optimal choice, and as far as I can tell - the Hyundai i10 2017 is the best choice right now, for a small car in this class.
Is there something I should know - or a better alternative?
You should probably know I don't give a shit about cars - and I have no interest in "comfort" if it's going to cost anything significant.
What I care about is longevity, economics and solid warranties.
All these new models are too bulky IMO. i10, Nissan Micra, Citroen C3, Renault Clio - they all used to be really compact but the latest iterations are going towards SUV look (and size). While the parking spots in cities remain the same size for the last 30 years.
edit: How about Fiat Panda? They should be durable, and at least all bottom-tier Fiats are cheap for maintenance.
hyundai aren't very good at used cars reliability at TUV, when you compare them to the other brands that i've listed, don't jump at the big warranty blindly, it doesn't matter if the repair is free if the car sits 10% of the year in the shop
my suggestion would be get a German or a Japanese car
find one that you like how it looks and are happy with interior space
get the biggest engine
pick the biggest package you can afford and fill with additional extras till you hit the budget mark
hyundai aren't very good at used cars reliability at TUV, when you compare them to the other brands that i've listed, don't jump at the big warranty blindly, it doesn't matter if the repair is free if the car sits 10% of the year in the shop
my suggestion would be get a German or a Japanese car
find one that you like how it looks and are happy with interior space
get the biggest engine
pick the biggest package you can afford and fill with additional extras till you hit the budget mark
Good point.
But when I'm checking out the various cars - the "fault percentage" doesn't seem to vary THAT much. Certainly not enough to make me question the 4-5 professional reviews saying i10 is the best car in its class.
Then again, I know shit about cars - so I'm just trying to rely on experienced dudes
best advice I can give is go and see at least 3 different cars in person, test drive them and make a decision. Sometimes what is best on paper and reviews may not be the best for you, even small differences in things like seat comfort or how heavy the steering wheel is can make a difference.
As for quality, hyundai improved A LOT in the last decade, I believe its on par with german brands, but you can't really beat Toyota if all you want is a decent car to get you from A to B for years without headaches.
he is right - go and test drive each one for an hour, play with the infotainment system, sit in the back, sit in the front passenger, go different speeds, how the car handles, how's the sound, engine responsiveness
also good way to judge the car is to enter the regional maker/brand forum and just read recent posts about it
Ir don't get it. Why buy new shit class car if you can get luxury/business class used one.
Ofc if you don't care about comfort or your area has high taxes on used cars, then it's different.
For most people a brand new (or almost) small car is the better option. They just need to get from A to B in relative comfort, with economy and safety. High HP, multilink suspension, rear wheel drive and whatnot is only for enthusiasts...
@Casus: Most new cars will be pretty decent. If you want top reliability go for Toyota, but even then you might still have problems, only the chances are smaller. And even the less reliable cars might still be perfect, although they usually aren't.
Ir don't get it. Why buy new shit class car if you can get luxury/business class used one.
Ofc if you don't care about comfort or your area has high taxes on used cars, then it's different.
Because used cars have no warranty - and I don't enjoy having my car break down and not being able to get to work.
best advice I can give is go and see at least 3 different cars in person, test drive them and make a decision. Sometimes what is best on paper and reviews may not be the best for you, even small differences in things like seat comfort or how heavy the steering wheel is can make a difference.
As for quality, hyundai improved A LOT in the last decade, I believe its on par with german brands, but you can't really beat Toyota if all you want is a decent car to get you from A to B for years without headaches.
I concur. Especially the part about comfort. Reliability is the most important factor but driver comfort is just half step behind it. I was driving i20 and it was ok, I didn't really like the interior, very plain, the steering wheel had some weight to it. The cheap fabias have awful seats, didn't drive one but not very comfy car. My Fiat GP is very comfy and I like the interior but the car is a bit understeering for my taste compared to i20.
Ir don't get it. Why buy new shit class car if you can get luxury/business class used one.
Ofc if you don't care about comfort or your area has high taxes on used cars, then it's different.
Because used cars have no warranty - and I don't enjoy having my car break down and not being able to get to work.
Oh yeah, like cars with warranty don't break. You still have to to do regular maintenance checks if you don't want to lose warranty. And you have to pay for those maintenance checks(depends on dealer policy).
Just do regular maintenance with your car and you don't have to worry. Also many repair shops will give you temporary vehicle while yours is taken care of.
Ir don't get it. Why buy new shit class car if you can get luxury/business class used one.
Ofc if you don't care about comfort or your area has high taxes on used cars, then it's different.
Because used cars have no warranty - and I don't enjoy having my car break down and not being able to get to work.
Oh yeah, like cars with warranty don't break. You still have to to do regular maintenance checks if you don't want to lose warranty. And you have to pay for those maintenance checks(depends on dealer policy).
Just do regular maintenance with your car and you don't have to worry. Also many repair shops will give you temporary vehicle while yours is taken care of.
I've owned my share of used cars these past 15 years. Let's say I know all about what's involved. Again, I know shit about cars - so I don't notice if anything's wrong unless it's incredibly obvious.
I don't want to bother with that crap anymore - not knowing when my car will need some major repairs, not knowing if I have the money - and not being able to get to work.
This policy means I don't pay anything at all for the first 5 years - except for standard stuff like oil/car lamps/etc.
That's the entire point of getting a new car - as well as for the obviously implicit lower fault rate.
No matter what, you're taking a bigger risk with a used car in terms of unpredictable repairs.
I'm not saying my way is the right way - it's just my way.
That said, this will be my first entirely new car - so I'll finally have a chance to test out this theory that it's better for me.
I would never, ever, buy an expensive new car, though. I consider that lunacy - unless you seriously don't care about your money.
Buying a new car is always lunacy, even a used car is stupid. Like many things in life, it's usually a total waste of money. The write-off in the first three years is crazy, less with smaller/cheaper new cars obviously. Let's say you have 15K to spend. Instead of spending that money on a car like the i10, just because it has to be new, spend half of it on a fairly new used car. If you get a good car with perfect maintenance history, you can rarely go wrong. If you are truly unlucky and something does go wrong, you have the money to fix it. The difference in reliability between a new car and a young used car is minimal. You know why cars such as the i10 get all that warranty? The chance of something major breaking down is negligible.
I'd really advise getting something like the Fiat Grande Punto (or Evo). If you only care about reliability, get the Suzuki Swift or Toyota Yaris. Both great cars, but the FIat is cheaper and a bit more luxurious. If you really really want a new car, look at the new Opel Astra. It has won a lot of prizes and it's a great car, but it might be over your budget.
The most important question is: how much do you drive and is it mainly city and highway? If you drive a lot and on highways a lot, stay away from the i10
Congrats! For the new car. i10 is the car I am also waiting to buy one. Most probably I will buy my car next month. Will be waiting to know your reviews on the car.
I bought the "Comfort" version - which is the middle-of-the-road version.
Extras include remote-controlled windows, steering-wheel controls for the media center, central locking, fancy airconditioning and stuff.
So far, it's been a very pleasant car to drive - and it has lots of neat features that I'm not used to, since I always drove crappy old cars.
Some of my favorite features include estimated kilometers left based on remaining fuel, optimal gear switch suggestion, the way everything is lit up when you turn on the light (when it's dark outside), speed-limiter and more
Now, I know shit about cars - but I have no problem recommending this.
That said, it's a sensible car with good fuel economy - it's NOT a great car for zippy acceleration and stuff like that.
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