Islam is a religion of peace
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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Jul 2012 21:14    Post subject: Islam is a religion of peace
Debate by Intelligence Squared U.S. duration 1h 46min
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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Jul 2012 21:16    Post subject:
Everytime I read the word "RELIGION"..
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PostPosted: Fri, 6th Jul 2012 23:39    Post subject:
Good debate, but "For" panel did not present convincing arguments enough.
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Jul 2012 21:44    Post subject:
huxanomaly2 wrote:
Everytime I read the word "RELIGION"..


^very much this^
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Jul 2012 21:47    Post subject:
i dont get how people say that they were told to question their faith and seek knowledge and be skeptic and THEN take their obvious failure for a great achievement. *shakes head*
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Jul 2012 21:52    Post subject:
11 minutes in and all i have heard so far are fallacies (no true scotsman, appeal to emotion, appeal to authority, morality, misrepresentations etc. )

so far the "pro" camp is failing
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Jul 2012 21:59    Post subject:
At the end, the pro Muslim says "Even if you don''t think Islam is a religion of pieces, vote how you want it to be" Laughing Laughing Laughing
Now that is a debate right there. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Jul 2012 22:02    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
At the end, the pro Muslim says "Even if you don''t think Islam is a religion of pieces, vote how you want it to be" Laughing Laughing Laughing
Now that is a debate right there. Laughing




the power of prayer!!! grinhurt
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Jul 2012 22:06    Post subject:
Thanks, I'll pop this in when I need background noise in less attention intensive games. Smile

I would have loved to have Hitchens on the team, he loved to rip pro-delusion guys to shreds, like he did in the Catholic debate, teaming up with Stephen Fry. If he was on, it would have been an instant watch, now it's just "maybe later". Sad
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Jul 2012 22:11    Post subject:
yeah, it s not in the league of hitchens or fry so far...
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Jul 2012 22:12    Post subject:
@zmed: This one is most likely not that good. Although all 4 of the debaters are interesting people, none are really highly intellectual.
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Jul 2012 22:19    Post subject:
i m now at the second anti-guy and he s at least funny Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Jul 2012 22:23    Post subject:
Going to watch Hitchens+Fry debate now. Very Happy

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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Jul 2012 22:24    Post subject:
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Going to watch Hitchens+Fry debate now. Very Happy

Prepare to see the Hitchslap in action. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Jul 2012 22:27    Post subject:
Well, they brought some priest and some nutcase right-winger to counter them. Laughing
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Jul 2012 22:28    Post subject:
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Well, they brought some priest and some nutcase right-winger to counter them. Laughing
They are still making more sense than - for example - Dembsky did in his debate with Hitchens. And that guy is a champion of the ID movement in the US. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Jul 2012 22:31    Post subject:
That accent.... grinhurt Reminds me of Mr. Eko from Lost Laughing

"Institushaan" "Belivaas" "United Neshaans" Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Jul 2012 22:40    Post subject:
zmed wrote:
LeoNatan wrote:
Well, they brought some priest and some nutcase right-winger to counter them. Laughing
They are still making more sense than - for example - Dembsky did in his debate with Hitchens. And that guy is a champion of the ID movement in the US. Smile

I am not familiar with debate either, but from the priest opening statement, it seems he used the same theoretic and arguments most religious people use - apply their own personal good view of their believe and their belief in their institution and tuck their head in the sand (or purposefully ignore) regarding the bad that these institutions do.
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What else is there for them to do? If all the rest is made up stuff with no rational justification, all they can fall back on is their personal touchy-feely view, and strawmaning the opposition. It's just a pleasure watching those two rip them a new one. Smile
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Jul 2012 23:14    Post subject:
Haha, a woman in pink asked if the ten commandments are an anchor of morals, and the audience burst out laughing.
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Jul 2012 23:15    Post subject:
wow, 20mins before the end. Epic bitch-fight, where the koranazi gets her knickers in a twist, because she doesnt like that somebody is turning her no-true-scotsman argument the other way around grinhurt
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But she learned Hebrew Cool Face
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Jul 2012 23:18    Post subject:
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But she learned Hebrew Cool Face


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i really have to watch the hitch and fry after this to get my head cleared again Very Happy
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From 678 for "Catholic Church is a force of good" to 268. Laughing

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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Jul 2012 23:36    Post subject:
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From 678 for "Catholic Church is a force of good" to 268. Laughing

Edit: Spoiler Laughing

Ah shit still watching that one. Very Happy
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watched only parts of it before, started it just now as well Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat, 7th Jul 2012 23:48    Post subject:
also, why is everybody who promotes religion pronouncing peace like piss? grinhurt
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