Is this a good new computer?
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Theescapist




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Location: Manchester U.K
PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Aug 2012 17:29    Post subject: Is this a good new computer?
CoolerMaster Elite 430 Midi Case - Black
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/cases/cases/rc-430-kwn1.html

Akasa Quiet Cool Blue Fan - 120mm
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/cooling/fans/100mmplus/ak-274cb-4bls.html

Akasa Silent Cooling Fan - 120mm
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/cooling/fans/100mmplus/ak-191bl.html

Akasa Silent Cooling Fan - 120mm
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/cooling/ak-191sm.html

Xilence Red Wing Quiet Fan - 80mm
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/cooling/fans/80mm/redwing80mm.html

3rd Generation Intel® Core™ i5 3570K 3.40GHz Socket LGA1155 - Retail
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/processors/intel3rdgencorei3,i5andi71155socket/bx80637i53570k.html

Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (2x4GB) DDR3 PC3-12800 C9 1600MHz Dual Channel Kit

http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/memory-pc/ddr3-pc3-12800/1600mhz/bls2cp4g3d1609ds1s00ceu.html

GIGABYTE GA-Z77-D3H Intel Z77 (Socket 1155) Motherboard
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/motherboards/intel1155z77chipsetmotherboards/ga-z77-d3h.html

Crucial RealSSD M4 128GB 2.5" SATA 6Gb/s Solid State Hard Drive - Retail
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/harddrives-internal/solidstate/upto128gb/ct128m4ssd2.html

Ozone Oxid Gaming Headset - USB
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/peripherals/microphonesandheadsets/oxid.html

Novatech PowerStation Gaming 600W Silent ATX2 Modular Power Supply
http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/powersupplies/nov-psg600.html

Total price.
£543.48 inc vat.

I'm pretty happy with that but if someone cvan link me a cheaper better part I'm all ears before i order it?


Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2.
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VGAdeadcafe




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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Aug 2012 19:20    Post subject:
Graphics card ?
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mroussev




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PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Aug 2012 20:01    Post subject:
PSU is shit. Get this

http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/powersupplies/cmpsu-600cxv2uk.html

Why you get 4 different fans? Chose one model and get 4 pcs...

Depend of whether you will get video card later or not (and if yes,which model) you can save 10 bucks for cpeaer PSU with 500w max.You dont need more with graphics card like gtx560...500w is enough.If you are not planning to use external videocard you can easiy get 400w model.


no video - http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/powersupplies/cmpsu-430cxv2uk.html

gtx560 max - http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/powersupplies/cmpsu-500cxv2uk.html

something powerfull - http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/components/powersupplies/cmpsu-600cxv2uk.html
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Theescapist




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Location: Manchester U.K
PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Aug 2012 21:17    Post subject:
I'm keeping my current 4890 1 gig card for the meantime.
If it needs upgrading i'll buy one later on.


Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2.
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Theescapist




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Location: Manchester U.K
PostPosted: Thu, 2nd Aug 2012 21:23    Post subject:
Why is that psu poor the oner i selected?


Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2.
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mroussev




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Aug 2012 00:01    Post subject:
Because it is. No name brand with low quality. Why you dont want tne Corsair? It is same price.
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Theescapist




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Aug 2012 13:33    Post subject:
mroussev wrote:
Because it is. No name brand with low quality. Why you dont want tne Corsair? It is same price.

Just because there branded by the name of the shop there made in doesn't make them bad if there a mid priced psu.
But i cancelled my order last night just can't part with that amount of money atm.
I'll probably end up re buying it later on.


Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2.
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mroussev




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Aug 2012 13:36    Post subject:
With corsair you ALWAYS know what brand it is and that quality is fine. With this rebranded psu ,you dont know what it is inside...Its a little lottery,i dont see ANY reason why you should risk that way and to not get the Corsair for SAME money...
But its your choice of course...
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Breezer_




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Aug 2012 13:47    Post subject:
Seems to be nice rig. Tho that Novatech PSU will take your PC and you with it, when it blows up.
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Werelds
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Aug 2012 14:00    Post subject:
Novatech are rebranded Corsair PSUs as far as I know. It should be fine, but I'd personally still go for an "original" Corsair (there is no such thing as you'll see below) or Seasonic.


mroussev wrote:
With corsair you ALWAYS know what brand it is

No, you don't. Get your facts straight, I'll just burst this bubble for you. Corsair are the most annoying cunts when it comes to their PSUs, insanely inconsistent.

- CX Series: all CWT, except the CX400 which is Seasonic.
- GS Series: all CWT
- VX Series: VX450 is Seasonic, VX550 is CWT

Not too bad so far, now let the fucking clusterfuck begin and this shit is so ridiculous that I'm going for multi level lists:

- TX Series:
- - TX550: CWT
- - TX550M: CWT
- - TX650: Seasonic
- - TX650-C: CWT
- - TX650V2: Seasonic
- - TX650 3.0 (will be out soon): CWT
- - TX650M: CWT

- - TX750: CWT
- - TX750-C: CWT
- - TX750V2: Seasonic
- - TX750 3.0 (will be out soon): CWT
- - TX750M: CWT
- - TX850: CWT
- - TX850-C: CWT
- - TX850V2: Seasonic
- - TX850 3.0 (will be out soon): CWT
- - TX850M: CWT
- - TX950: CWT

- HX Series:
- - < 750W: Seasonic
- - HX750 and up: CWT

- AX Series:
- - < 1200W: Seasonic
- - AX1200, AX1200i (again, coming soon): Flextronics


Please note how retarded the TX650 series is, the most interesting of them all. You actually have to look at the actual type to make sure you got one of the good ones; the new CWT platform supposedly is massively improved, but the older ones were inferior to the Seasonic platform at the time.
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Theescapist




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Aug 2012 16:10    Post subject:
Ok dumb this down guy for me?
What gaming psu should i get?


Ryzen 5 3600 cpu@3.60 Mhz.
hyper x 32 gb ddr 4 memory.
Msi Carbon gaming pro ac motherboard.
Evga 600 psu.
Msi Armour rx 8 gb 5700 Graphic card.
Ps4 Standard 500gb.
Lg 4k 42 inch tv.
Oculus Quest 2.
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Werelds
Special Little Man



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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Aug 2012 17:21    Post subject:
There is no such thing as a "gaming" PSU Smile

Basically though, anything that's built by Seasonic - the brand on the PSU is absolutely meaningless, you'll have to check reviews to find out who *actually* made a particular unit. Novatech themselves have partially rebranded Corsair units, but some units are also very cheap builds so I wouldn't trust them for shit (the 40 quid 800W unit for example sounds dodgy to me, haven't looked it up yet).

Antec also have a fair number of good units, but looking at novatech.co.uk their Antec offering is very limited. Are there any other shops I could look at to recommend you one? They seem to be very expensive as well, 73 quid for a TX650V2 is a bit too much.
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Paintface




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Aug 2012 20:32    Post subject:
werelds, how can i find out what type my TX650 v2 is? i had a v1 which was whisper quiet, i assume seasonic, and now a AX650 which is also whisper quiet ( seasonic for sure ) but the TX650 v2 i owned briefly had the fan blow at 100% non stop.
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Werelds
Special Little Man



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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Aug 2012 20:43    Post subject:
Seasonic. All the V2's were Seasonic builds.
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neeger93




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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Aug 2012 20:47    Post subject:
Hey Werelds, what's wrong with Corsair CWT builds? I have a VX550 and have had zero problems with it.
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Werelds
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PostPosted: Fri, 3rd Aug 2012 20:53    Post subject:
Nothing wrong with it per se, but Seasonic builds typically have higher sustained throughput; often very close to what they're rated at (with most PSUs, the "rated" wattage is actually peak wattage, they can't sustain that for longer periods) and CWT's OCP (OverCurrent Protection) is not as good. That last part means that if there's a spike on the power line, a Seasonic unit is more likely to protect your components.
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