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DXWarlock
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 Posted: Tue, 14th Aug 2012 15:05 Post subject: Stubborn ass people. |
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Man some people don't listen to wisdom..and then act like the 'world is against them"
Say you saw your friend working on his car, and hes never done it before..hes about to pour oil in the radiator...If you walk over and go "No don't do that, Ive had experience in cars and that would turn out VERY VERY bad" He would probably thank you, and be glad he has a friend with experience with cars around to stop him from doing something stupid...right?
Then why when its "wisdom of life" people get upset when you offer advice in things you have had experience in. You see them doing or planning do to something stupid and you tell them "Hey I've been there, done that, or know a lot of people that thought that too..it turns out bad" you get a "You don't know about it, Why are you trying to discourage me and what I need to do??"
Sure its not ALWAYS the same outcome, but when 99% of the time its the same..you can be pretty sure they aren't in that 1% that gets lucky.
So then it goes bad, they act all shocked, and use the line "Why does everything go wrong for me? I try and try yet my luck is horrible"
Maybe because you ignore advice from people that have been thru it or seen it?
stupid people...
Just 'lost' a friend I've had for 20 years since high school because of it. We aren't talking now...well hes not talking to me. because some dumb ass hair-brained idea he had he asked my advice on, and Told him its a bad idea. So hes went off to do it after giving me an earful of "Its what I want to do, why cant you just support me and wish me luck??".
Friends may support you in whatever you do..but true friends tell you if its stupid.
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Aug 2012 15:26 Post subject: |
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its a Long story..
He's always been a 'lazy no job for 10 years, take the easy road, look for the something for nothing, but then complain how he doesn't have anything, and life is crap" type.
I was use to that, its who he is. I just accept that as part of him.
Since ive known him..hes took too many "too good to be true" offers or situations and got fucked by them to count.
Like he had an offer to move to Hawaii with his GF, for FREE, to live at a resort her dad worked at and all that had to do was some light work at the resort in return for lodging and food (pretty much to him
"wow a free resort in Hawaii, no bills, and all I got to do is some chores? sounds legit and sweeeet!"
Of course he asked me, I looked the resort up..its run by some quack 'spiritual hippy nature doctor" that runs it like a commune. everyone grows their own food in the garden, the 'resort' is a collection of random buildings on some land that make even the worst hotels here look like luxury. So i tell him "this will turn out baad dude. Why would he pay $3000 to fly you out there to hire you, when you have NO resort experience..he can hire locally"
Of course I get the "Maybe he just wants to help me, hes heard about my life issues and my situation from my GF's dad and hes a nice guy? ever think of that?"
So we argued...he went, and in 6 months comes back bitching about how it was a borderline cult, and the doctor was a wack job...
Anyway...hes done things like this since high school. and I keep warning him "man, thats just ridiculous, its too good to be true" but the "Life sucks, this is a quick fix to try" always makes him do it, while telling me that 'I wont know until I try right???"
Well anyway..since highschool hes wanted to be a comicbook artist. Hes pretty good. But hes 40 now, and never had any job experience...so its pretty much a "you missed that bus dude, let it go" thing.
HE was at a Dennys resturant at 3am talking to some guy..and he ALWAYS bring up how he wanted to be an artist to anyone that listens. This guy goes "oh really? I run a small commercial art business and need some employees. Would you like a job?"
So my friend goes on to tell him "HELL YEA! but I have no supplies or such of my own." The guy out of the 'kindness of his heart' offers to use his business discount to get my friend $1000 of art tools for $300 so he can start. and to meet him there the next night to give him the money and he can start next week when the supplies come in and he can setup him an office.
So of course he told me asking if I had $200 to borrow, and I went "hmm some random dude at a crappy all night diner offered you a job by pure chance, in the very thing you was just saying to him you had a burning passion to do, and will 'hook you up' with art tools for 1/3 the price before hand without seeing any of your work, or anything...sound totally legit, hes scamming you dude"
Arguments start of how 'hes finally getting his break, and I wont help him out, that I suck as a friend, and now hes going to stay jobless, sad, and in a shitty life because of him missing the opportunity"
So he hung up on me blinded by "YESS! life FINALLY gave me a break, I can do art!" fevor he has..and borrowed money from his parents (that he lives with). and is waiting for 'next week' to come to start.
Last thing I told him is don't expect a call monday with an address and what hours he works...
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Aug 2012 16:34 Post subject: |
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1. You're doing exactly what a friend is supposed to. Telling him what you honestly think.
2. He's expecting you to be a yes-man, supporting your friends is telling them the truth regardless.
3. This really goes to show, age has nothing to do with intelligence, wisdom, or even experience. A lot of people are stupid so they keep making the same mistakes over and over - what's the point of experience if you don't learn anything from it?
This guy is a victim, and will treated as such by everyone until he realizes he's acting like a victim and attracting the sharks. Opportunities aren't given, they are something you work for, if someone offers you something that sounds too good to be true, it is. If you accept the offer, then you are a sucker and a gamma.
Yes, yes I'm back.
Somewhat.
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DXWarlock
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Yea, but he doesn't understand that 
And I've noticed it before. seems a some people do that sort of thing a lot.
Wisdom in anything is welcome unless its a "'life situation" then they get stubborn and defensive as if your trying to foil them just to be vengeful or something. and it confuses me
I understand there is a bit of a difference between the 'life' and 'car' examples..as 'life decisions' have some emotional weight tied to them. but to me that would make knowledge on that from someone else would be MORE welcome to help decide, instead of brushing it off a 'a personal attack'.
Just this is happened a LOT with him, and its totally baffling that he can keep screwing up for 20 years, and most the time I'm correct when I tell him "Really man? step back and think about it, does it sound like a good idea or deal here?"..And he doesn't realize "maybe I should take Mikes advice at least as something to keep in mind".
I think its gotten to the point he not only wants me to be a yes man...hes telling me all these 'decisions' he makes hoping that at least one I will think is a good one, and get the pride of knowing he finally made a choice I thought was smart. kinda 'saving face" from all the others..
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Aug 2012 18:34 Post subject: |
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Like he had an offer to move to Hawaii with his GF, for FREE, to live at a resort her dad worked at and all that had to do was some light work at the resort in return for lodging and food (pretty much to him
"wow a free resort in Hawaii, no bills, and all I got to do is some chores? sounds legit and sweeeet!"
Of course he asked me, I looked the resort up..its run by some quack 'spiritual hippy nature doctor" that runs it like a commune. everyone grows their own food in the garden, the 'resort' is a collection of random buildings on some land that make even the worst hotels here look like luxury. So i tell him "this will turn out baad dude. Why would he pay $3000 to fly you out there to hire you, when you have NO resort experience..he can hire locally"
Of course I get the "Maybe he just wants to help me, hes heard about my life issues and my situation from my GF's dad and hes a nice guy? ever think of that?"
So we argued...he went, and in 6 months comes back bitching about how it was a borderline cult, and the doctor was a wack job...
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DXWarlock
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| Posted: Tue, 14th Aug 2012 19:27 Post subject: |
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LOL great vacation spot, long as you don't mind working 16 hours a day in the garden and 'healing springs' taking care of the crazy people that pay to come there, while he keeps the money..and demands everyone calls him "Father", and forces 3 hours a night of listening to "space harmonics" for all the members, so their body can be cleansed of harmful negative energy and infused with "love", as he puts it.
Doctors name is len horowitz, I just a 2 minute Google search before he left, he was listed on a "5 worst quack doctors around"
http://buffalobeast.com/the-5-worst-quacks-around-today/
and all kinda weird websites he had setup (most are gone) about healing powers of 'miracle water, crystals, curing cancer with tuning forks"' and the freq 528 like this one:
http://www.love528.com/LOVE528/HOME.html
I showed him these, gave him my input..and he looked past it all just at the "free room and board, in HAWAII, and don't have to get a 'real job? how can that not be AWESOME!"
-We don't control what happens to us in life, but we control how we respond to what happens in life.
-Hard times create strong men, strong men create good times, good times create weak men, and weak men create hard times. -G. Michael Hopf
Disclaimer: Post made by me are of my own creation. A delusional mind relayed in text form.
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He actually made the top5 list, dude's practically a celebrity
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