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 Posted: Wed, 12th Sep 2012 16:08 Post subject: Thinking of applying for university next year |
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Been putting it off for 10 years now but I feel the time is right. Basically im unsure whether I should apply for an engineering degree or take a relatively easy degree in computer science. The engineering program im interested in is called Mechatronics and is the combination of mechanics, electronics and mathematics. Basically you learn how to build and program different types of robots, be it industrial, for future home products etc
The dream job would be mechatronics but im concerned regarding the study and how intense the program is. Computer Science is the easy path, pretty easy program with little math and programming and lots of bullshit courses. Have a few people at my current work doing programming work with computer science degrees and its also a profession that'll be in demand in the very near future if not already.
what would you guys do? Keep in mind Ill be 31 next year and havent studied anything for more than 10 years except for a few certifications. Have forgotten all math I read in high school...
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ixigia
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It's a good challenge and a definitely interesting path for your career, but it will also be damn tough at first, especially if you choose engineering.
I'd suggest you to start looking for your high school books, it's essential to face these kind of studies with at least basic knowledge 
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ixigia
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Sep 2012 16:44 Post subject: Re: Thinking of applying for university next year |
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| Acer wrote: | | Computer Science is the easy path, pretty easy program with little math and programming and lots of bullshit courses. |
That's one crappy ass education then. If that university is of any worth whatsoever, there's about as much math as there is programming (if not more); and not the kind where you get some basic formulas to deal with. Everything I got in high school came back and then some; all my beloved integrals and logarithms, as well the dreadful probability theory.
And if they're not behind the times, you'll get electronics as well because the two are not just intertwined these days, they don't exist without the other anymore. I've had about half the courses you get in electrical engineering; in electrical engineering they also get some programming courses (mainly limited to microcontrollers).
If I'm honest, that CS course sounds pretty bad and if the mechatronics one is what you want, go for it. You're never too old to study, especially not at 31. If you were good at math 10 years ago, you'll have forgotten some of it, but it'll also come back quickly and you'll still be able to pick new things up with relative ease 
I have a cousin who started studying again last year as well (funnily enough, when he was 31  ) and he's enjoying it a lot. He says he should've done it sooner; he has a lot of catching up to do, so it does cost him quite a few nights, but he thinks it's worth it
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My sister is 32 and got her masters in accounting in May and recently passed all CPA exams, and she was working full time 9-5pm and took night classes, it took her about 6 years including summer and winter classes
if you will stick it out, go for it, and btw for engineering & math is done on computer softwares like mathcad until exams come and you have to know how to solve questions..we are all fucking then
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Sep 2012 16:58 Post subject: Re: Thinking of applying for university next year |
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| Werelds wrote: | | Acer wrote: | | Computer Science is the easy path, pretty easy program with little math and programming and lots of bullshit courses. |
That's one crappy ass education then. If that university is of any worth whatsoever, there's about as much math as there is programming (if not more); and not the kind where you get some basic formulas to deal with. Everything I got in high school came back and then some; all my beloved integrals and logarithms, as well the dreadful probability theory.
And if they're not behind the times, you'll get electronics as well because the two are not just intertwined these days, they don't exist without the other anymore. I've had about half the courses you get in electrical engineering; in electrical engineering they also get some programming courses (mainly limited to microcontrollers).
If I'm honest, that CS course sounds pretty bad and if the mechatronics one is what you want, go for it. You're never too old to study, especially not at 31. If you were good at math 10 years ago, you'll have forgotten some of it, but it'll also come back quickly and you'll still be able to pick new things up with relative ease
I have a cousin who started studying again last year as well (funnily enough, when he was 31 ) and he's enjoying it a lot. He says he should've done it sooner; he has a lot of catching up to do, so it does cost him quite a few nights, but he thinks it's worth it |
I think of it this way, I wanna be successfull and have a job where im motivated and love what I do, preferbly designing robots, androids, creating AI that'll one day destroy us all etc
If I take the CS course it'll be like my life today, Ill do it and I hate every minute of it because im not that kind of person whos able to work without feeling some kind of passion or enjoyment.
Im thinking of studying a pre university math book which explains everything you need and also read up on electronics.
Thnx guys, means alot to get some encouragement and some hidden sexual innuendos that Ixi is so good at.
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| Posted: Wed, 12th Sep 2012 17:06 Post subject: |
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If you like robotics, than by all means go for it! You don't want to end up stuck doing something you don't like 
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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Yeah, well, i am going to start my 10th year of university in october. Almost finished everything I ever wanted to do. However, they keep inventing interesting stuff, so maybe maybe maybe i will squeeze in yet another year.
However, with getting older, it becomes difficult to combine everything and especially find motivation to study retarded chapters or totally useless courses. I am still amazed i ever finished studying a gazillion animals in latin. Give it to me now and there is no way i would have motivation to study such a retarded bunch of crap.
Second thing, lessons are soooo slow compared to working. I did take days off in the beginning to take classes, well i did it once. I just fell asleep in the class because of the slow pace.
third, the young people can be annoying sometimes, but eventually you will get over it. People calling the 22yo friends of their group 'grandma' is quite funny when you are 27. But once you get over that, you will get along.
And i will give you the speech i give everyone who goes to uni after they started working. Don't upgrade to a uni degree if you dont like the courses. You wont get more money to have the degree, you will get extra money to use your degree. I know people who are nurse and then go to uni and have some math and statistics. And they swear 'they will never use that crap again'. Well, then you wont be using ur degree, hence you wont make extra dough.
Nevertheless enjoy. dunno if you have a missus, but you might find some young ass in uni, although the direction you want to go in might be quite disapointing...
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Engineering Degree all the way.
I am Electrical, and am now VP of a small oil and gas company, doing primary geophysics and contract negotiations.
All my Computer science buddies are still in the back room, fixing others problems, and have kind of peaked in position and salary.
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Plus if you have any math problem, just ask here, there are few of us here quite skilled with maths
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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Any technical degree will give you a well paid safe job if that's what you want or be a good starting point for a riskier career that can lead to a management position/own company.
Make your choice solely based on your interests, studying isn't easy and intrinsic motivation is key to push it to the end.
...and don't worry about math. Everyone leaves the lecture hall with a dizzy head after his first math lecture at university.
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