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 Posted: Sat, 27th Jul 2013 12:16 Post subject: |
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770 is cheaper and bit faster than 680 (it's the same GPU as you probably know), go with 770.
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Jul 2013 13:52 Post subject: |
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If you are going for that good overclocking mobo, for god sakes get K model from the ivy!
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Jul 2013 14:08 Post subject: |
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Would make any difference? Since I don't plan to OC for now and never really interested in that, K model would take another 50€.
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Jul 2013 15:39 Post subject: |
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The Zalman Z12 looks better imo, pretty much the same on the inside as the Z11.
Also I would pick the 770.
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Jul 2013 16:21 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 27th Jul 2013 18:13 Post subject: |
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Fair enough but I still need some serious rendering power on my home PC. Then, looking for a cheaper MB and maybe going for a i7.
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Jul 2013 02:27 Post subject: |
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For the K question..ID say get it.
I wouldn't even call it 'overclocking' on a K series (technically it is, but not in the sense of the impression hearing the word overclocking gives, of 'pushing it to the max limit'). A K series is MILES better than a non-k, and simply changing the multiplier for an almost 1ghz gain that takes 10 seconds to set once and never think about again is simple.
Instead of thinking of it as overclocking, think of it as removing the governor off a car so it cant go over 55mph installed by the factory, the engines made to go well over 55, they just limit you to that speed..your just allowing the K series to run its uncrippled speed compared to the non-k 
Maybe its my mentality..A k series is the standard chip, the non k is the 'run of the mill" one..it would be like nvidia making a 790 and a 790k, and the 790 is the EXACT same card, just with one of the working header output filled with superglue so you cant ever use it 
For the SSD, I have 2 Crucial brand ones, and love them. no issues or speed complaints from me. Windows 7 is at the login screen before the 'loading windows' on black screen can even make the windows logo from the 'colored spiraling lights'.
Also get nothing smaller than a 128g one. Windows doesnt take THAT much..and even with only installing windows, and random apps on it, mines at 67g already.. COULD clean it up and make room, but didnt want that hassle of having to watch the space on it like a hawk.
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Jul 2013 04:15 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Jul 2013 09:26 Post subject: |
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Oh yea, you dont need that much of a MB with all those bells and whistles if all your doing is stock everything else with a small multiplier tweak.
You should be able to find one that's under that 50 difference that's just as good.
As for the whole paragraph about the K thing above, when it came to processors before the i3/5/7 series, I never really nudged people to get the 'black/unlocked' edition from either AMD or intel unless they was wanting one and knowing what they was doing with FSB/voltage/ratios..etc, always recommended what fit what they needed and price range. But since the K intels, getting the K is a no brainier to me the extra money is WAY worth the gains, and the change to get the gain is literally changing one number in a setting.
To chime in on the PSU question, it should be fine. 650w is quite a lot of overhead from what you need, Right now I max out at around 270ish watts with everything going in a game or stress testing with a 2500k, and 7870 AMD card (pulling from the wall according to my kill-a-watt meter, so component side is even less)
and seasonic is a good PSU vendor.
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| Posted: Sun, 28th Jul 2013 21:35 Post subject: |
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Looks good, the monitor aspect ratio is horrible, i would really get something else.
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Jul 2013 00:03 Post subject: |
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650w is a bit on the low side these days tho, especially if you maybe wanna go dual cards instead of buying a new (expensive) one..
I personally would go a tad higher.
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Jul 2013 02:36 Post subject: |
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650W is plenty these days, especially if its a quality unit... 2x 770s will consume like 400W in maximum load (peak), add rest components to that and you have even room left.
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Jul 2013 02:53 Post subject: |
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2x 230w + ~100w for the CPU and you already have 560w, count with that mobo/ram/dvdrom drives/hdd's/ssd's/usb ports etc...
But that's only the case with dual cards.
That extra 100w or so on the PSU ain't gonna hurt in price and makes sure you are safe for a while..
Not everyone builds their PC for just a few years, or don't reuse parts to save in costs 
When i build PC's for others, i usually have in mind that they want to use them for at least 5 years, if not longer.
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Jul 2013 03:43 Post subject: |
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Like i said, if you build a rig that only has to last a couple of years then yeah, but not everyone got money flowing as you (apparently) do or still lives at home sucking their parents nipples still dry and don't have monthly expenses.
You can defend your point all you want, but my opinion won't budge.
If he's making a PC that has to last more then a couple of years, then he's better off getting a tad more for just those few extra $.
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| Breezer_ wrote: | | Do you even realize that power consumption goes down when technology advances |
285= 236w
480= nvidia page borked (prolly removed because the card was a disgrace)
580= 244w
680= 195w
780= 250w
I removed the rest of the post
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Jul 2013 04:44 Post subject: |
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Sorry yeah i already deleted my post, my brain doesnt work at full capacity @ nearly 6 AM...
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Jul 2013 08:36 Post subject: |
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The current PC that I have date from the ancient date of 2007, still works, MOBO was never changed, neither the CPU, they both still work fine and at decent temps, I never applied thermal compund  might have already applied. Still, my point is that I take care of the damn PC and this one, should have this fate, I don't plan to fully upgrade each year.
So, should I go for a PSU with ~100w more? And yes, I don't plan to SLI.
(Also, just checked your sig Breezer, why the 4x4GB? Why not 2x8?)
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Jul 2013 09:15 Post subject: |
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If you dont plan on putting two Titans in there, 650W will be plenty (and more), for whatever Single Card you will want to use.
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Jul 2013 09:18 Post subject: |
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keep in mind that PSUs are most efficient when they run at around 50% load. so if you overclock the shit out of your system and PSU load is 60-70% while gaming that's not very efficient.
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| Posted: Mon, 29th Jul 2013 10:57 Post subject: |
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I would personally get the 100w more, IF it's not insane price difference.
That would make you safe(r) for future builds and you might not have to get another PSU when you upgrade in another 5/6 years, thus saving you money then
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In gaming it will be something like this with i5 + 770SLI.
