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W123
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I got a Samsung 830 128gb. The difference is amazing.... only snag i ran into was that I needed Win7 SP1 install disc, not plain jane Windows 7. Otherwise it wouldnt recognize my HD.
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| Posted: Fri, 21st Dec 2012 23:43 Post subject: |
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Best upgrade you can make. Difference is obvious and I can't imagine going back to HDD. Oh the horror when I remember the old HDD times
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Dec 2012 00:20 Post subject: |
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yes i agree both ye pc's have ssd's as the boot drives, makes even crap pc's so much snappier. ones got a 128gb sandisk ssd and the other a 128gb ocz vertex 2.
i did a fresh install of windows to both to make sure it used the right settings for ssd. used my friends pc the other day, thought it was dying cos it was that slow. would never buy another pc without an ssd.
The night is dark and the road is long. Come on dead men, return to your homes.
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Dec 2012 01:00 Post subject: |
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Well that sounds promising and I'll remember the tip about 7 SP1 - must have a image somewhere in the stash heh.
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Dec 2012 01:35 Post subject: |
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ones you got a ssd, you never want a pc/laptop without one.
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VonMisk
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deelix
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Dec 2012 09:45 Post subject: |
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| UreKismet wrote: | | Well that sounds promising and I'll remember the tip about 7 SP1 - must have a image somewhere in the stash heh. |
Also make sure your SATA controllers are set to AHCI mode before installing windows. You can change it after installing windows using registry tricks but in my experience that never lasts and eventually you'll end up with a corrupt windows install.
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Dec 2012 10:17 Post subject: |
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What about getting a 32GB SSD and using it for cache with intel rapid..someshit. ?
I have a 16GB SSD on my Lenovo laptop and it's being used as a cache disk, but by some lenovo app.. not sure why they aren't using the intel version..
| Lutzifer wrote: | | and yes, mine is only average |
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MAD_MAX333
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Dec 2012 23:21 Post subject: |
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went from a 2.4ghz core 2 due pc with 4 gigs ram and 7200rpm hard drive to ivy I5 3570k 16gig ram and sammy 840 pro SSD... difference was insane lol just the boot up from cold to be able to run something was nuts... no more loading my startup programs for ages... soon though u get use to it...
where i see the MOST improvement is in games... assassins creed 3 has SO MUCH loading... with SSD loading it annoying...but i cant even imagine with a 7200rpm HDD....
next purchase is a 512gig SSD as an add on 128gig isnt nearly enough
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garus
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Dec 2012 23:23 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sat, 22nd Dec 2012 23:29 Post subject: |
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Prices have come down a bit on ssd's which is another reason I decided to buy now - my 250 samsung cost me $220 US here which isn't as cheap as the US where toms alleges they start at around US $180 but I got it from a reliable mob who do back up their sales. In fact when I was negotiating, the store owner's wife whined about what a hiding they had taken on ssd's. A combination of the unreliability of some early models and the usual consumer incompetence that ramps up with completely new technology.
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Badrien
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Dec 2012 07:50 Post subject: |
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Got a 64 agility 3, for OS and 1/2 games, main reason i got it frees up alot of Hdd bandwith(or w/e its called with hdds') for recording.
loving it, waited to get one till they worked out hte kinks and wouldnt wanna go back ever lol
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Dec 2012 08:00 Post subject: |
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Samsung 830. Performance was more noticeable than going from dual core to quad.
Samsungs and Intel are the best on the market right now. Samsung makes their memory chips vs everyone like GSkill and OCZ who buy their components from elsewhere.
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Werelds
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Dec 2012 12:55 Post subject: |
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- Vertex 2 60 GB: 2 years old now, runs Windows + a few applications
- Agility 3: Games, mostly
- Vertex 4 128GB: RMA for another V2 60GB I had, it died after a little more than 1.5 years of being used as my Ubuntu and development drive. Now I've got it running OS X and still as development drive.
Biggest upgrade any PC built within the last 5 years can get. I cringe every time I'm back working on a machine with a mechanical drive, especially when it's a Mac (OS X is horrible on mechanical drives, the OS can't deal with disk latency for shit). Always happy to get back home after trips to our London office, where I get to work on a lovely Mac Mini with a 5400 RPM drive. Yes, 5400 RPM. 
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couleur
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Dec 2012 13:38 Post subject: |
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I have these two Crucial M4s (128GB & 256GB) with both Windows and OSX since 7 month now and it was the best upgrade yet. I had them running on a Sata2 port before and I feel virtually no difference to them running on a Sata3 port now (on a new mobo of course).
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Dec 2012 15:57 Post subject: |
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| Werelds wrote: | - Vertex 2 60 GB: 2 years old now, runs Windows + a few applications
- Agility 3: Games, mostly
- Vertex 4 128GB: RMA for another V2 60GB I had, it died after a little more than 1.5 years of being used as my Ubuntu and development drive. Now I've got it running OS X and still as development drive.
Biggest upgrade any PC built within the last 5 years can get. I cringe every time I'm back working on a machine with a mechanical drive, especially when it's a Mac (OS X is horrible on mechanical drives, the OS can't deal with disk latency for shit). Always happy to get back home after trips to our London office, where I get to work on a lovely Mac Mini with a 5400 RPM drive. Yes, 5400 RPM. |
My gaming laptop has my ssd in it while I'm gone for the holidays, definitely will not put the old 5400 back on |
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Przepraszam
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Dec 2012 15:59 Post subject: |
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my died 2 weeks ago, had to switch back to old hdd, so slow...but I rma it and replacement is on its way already
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Dec 2012 16:01 Post subject: |
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I can't stand the sizes of those things. Fuck that. I'll stick with normal HDD's until the SSD's becomes large enough to be viable for my use.
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Przepraszam
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Dec 2012 16:12 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | I can't stand the sizes of those things. Fuck that. I'll stick with normal HDD's until the SSD's becomes large enough to be viable for my use. |
you don't know what you are missing 128GB is fine, I have windows installed, some applications and about 5 games installed and still have about 15 gigs left. you don't need to store music or movies or that drive |
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deelix
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Werelds
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Dec 2012 16:24 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | | I can't stand the sizes of those things. Fuck that. I'll stick with normal HDD's until the SSD's becomes large enough to be viable for my use. |
They are plenty viable for "your use" - you just don't get what an SSD does. An SSD is not meant for storage. I still have mechanical drives for my storage needs. 90% of the stuff you store for longer periods (all media, ISO files, documents) don't benefit from an SSD, so there's absolutely no point in putting them on one. |
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garus
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Dec 2012 16:29 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Dec 2012 17:25 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Dec 2012 17:46 Post subject: |
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| Werelds wrote: | | Stormwolf wrote: | | I can't stand the sizes of those things. Fuck that. I'll stick with normal HDD's until the SSD's becomes large enough to be viable for my use. |
They are plenty viable for "your use" - you just don't get what an SSD does. An SSD is not meant for storage. I still have mechanical drives for my storage needs. 90% of the stuff you store for longer periods (all media, ISO files, documents) don't benefit from an SSD, so there's absolutely no point in putting them on one. |
I for one wouldn't waste an SSD on OS like 90% seems to do. All that for booting a bit quicker?
I would use them to play games, not storage. And 128gb is nothing these days. Absolutely nothing.
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Dec 2012 18:43 Post subject: |
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It's not just booting "a bit" quicker. It's booting a lot quicker, and that's just the tip of the ice berg. Applications load and start faster and in general most applications that in some way work with the drive and incredibly more snappier.
Not to mention if you use a paging file you don't have slowdown when switching between applications (even if you have 16+GB of RAM your paging file WILL get used).
In my experience most games don't benefit from SSDs a lot. Depends from game to game but decompressing the data takes longer than reading it, so reading it faster doesn't improve loading in a lot of cases. Plus game "loading" is mostly some form of preprocessing, and small part is actual file reading.
Not sure how many games you plan on having but when I had a 128GB one I had no issues if I took care what and when I played. If games didn't fit Id use the mechanical drive. Now I have another 256GB for OS and apps (70% empty), and use the 128GB for games, which is enough for about 8 games.
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Werelds
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Dec 2012 19:19 Post subject: |
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| Stormwolf wrote: | I for one wouldn't waste an SSD on OS like 90% seems to do. All that for booting a bit quicker?
I would use them to play games, not storage. And 128gb is nothing these days. Absolutely nothing. |
"Waste" it on the OS? It's not just the faster boot. It's being able to get PS loaded within a second after the desktop even appears. That's what an SSD does: it makes *everything* on the PC faster. Even when I'm on OS X, which is notoriously I/O heavy, loading Photoshop CS6 takes about a second and a half. Smaller stuff like browsers and such quite literally load as you click the icon. It may seem like nothing, but once you've used it once you realise just how much it sucks to have your OS and applications on a mechanical drive
You'd use it to play games? Bravo, you've come up with a mediocre use for it, as only half the games out there really benefit from an SSD in a way that a RAID-0/10 setup can't provide. Most games use streaming technology to stream their assets from huge files - SSDs are decent with them, but what makes them so much better than mechanical drives is that they are a billion times faster with small files scattered throughout your system. Now take a wild guess what most applications and your OS do when they start up? Yep, load a tonne of small files all over your system. For large files, a pair of good mechanical drives in RAID will achieve the same speeds.
And 128GB is nothing? My Agility begs to differ, 10 games installed on it atm and I still have room to spare - I am fairly selective though, some games are on my mechanical drive, the SSD mostly holds games that are or can be unpacked. My Vertex 4 (128GB), which has OS X and all my development tools as well as projects on it, still has 50 GB free. For OS, applications and games 12xGB is more than plenty (even my 60GB V2 still has 24GB free, that's Win7 x64 + SP1, Office and a bunch of other applications). |
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tonizito
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| Posted: Sun, 23rd Dec 2012 20:29 Post subject: |
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Stormwolf, there are 2 or 3 people on the forums from which I'd expect something like that but definitely not you.
| boundle (thoughts on cracking AITD) wrote: | | i guess thouth if without a legit key the installation was rolling back we are all fucking then |
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) so I wondered what experiences others had with ssd's.
They still have somewhat higher failure rate then regular hdd (especially OCZ in the beginning) but it's getting better and Kingston has issues with its SSD firmware.
Of course it's not for storage.
