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Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 10:22 Post subject: |
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everyone that thinks the world will end i expect to sign a paper that i get all their belongings on Jan 1st 2013.
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Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 10:29 Post subject: |
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now is the time for unprotected sex people!
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Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 10:48 Post subject: |
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The_Zeel wrote: | now is the time for unprotected sex people! |
Doing that for years.
Still I guess the people who REALLY thinks the world is going to hell on 21 Dec will kinda go crazy in the last days, in some way I'm expecting vandalism in those "last" days for them.
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Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 10:51 Post subject: |
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xExtreme wrote: | The_Zeel wrote: | now is the time for unprotected sex people! |
Doing that for years.
Still I guess the people who REALLY thinks the world is going to hell on 21 Dec will kinda go crazy in the last days, in some way I'm expecting vandalism in those "last" days for them. |
yep, i expect alot of shit to go down in the last few days before it, there will be people who firmly believe it using their last days on earth to rape, kill and destroy.
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Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 10:52 Post subject: |
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Quote: | On a serious note though there is so much stuff that can go wrong, it's not that crazy to think a coincidence might happen and the world does end on the said date. Either completely, on there's such an event, the world as we knew it gets changed beyond recognition. | It's not impossible, but it is actually crazy to expect anything. Especially on that particular date. Dec. 21 has the same exact chance of anything happening than Dec. 22. Or Dec 23. Or 24...not gona write it 365 times, ok?
Quote: | Solar flares who burns out our entire digital stuff, which nowadays is basically everything. | We have advance warning of this for a while now. If it happens, satellites will go in standby mode, the power grid will lower its load to handle the extra charge. The worst will be some idiot's cofee-grinder shorting out. Quote: | Polar shifting and stuff. | Nope. These thing don't happen over night. These things take decades or even centuries. According to NASA, even a millennia. See previous point. Shit like this doesn't come over night. 'Day After Tomorrow' was fiction. A bad one at that.There is nothing in the current political climate that would foreshadow anything like it. Maybe a terror attack, but that's hardly war, despite what the US propaganda tries to imply. Quote: | And do not forget that the day may come and nothing might even happen, which is utterly disappointing.  | Get ready for some serious disappointment then, because it will be just another day to postpone the last day Xmas shopping, like it was since forever.
This whole thing sprung up from a single misinterpretation of a single cyclical calendar of a relatively primitive culture, and it was blown out of proportions by charlatans and frauds to sell books to gullible retards.
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Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 11:08 Post subject: |
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Even if any of the scenarios you describe did happen it would not be the end of the world as such, just the end of us, which, lets face it would be a bloody good thing for the world and those animals/plants/trees etc left on it.
Us humans are so bloody conceited thinking the end of us is the end of the world.
The world has bounced back from far worse disasters and it will continue to do so.
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Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 14:12 Post subject: |
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cheat2win, you clearly have no grasp on the principle of casuality.
We measure the likelihood of events based in preceding events, not based in voided claims without any shred of reason to exist.
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Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 14:22 Post subject: |
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Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 19:33 Post subject: |
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Nhiumewyn wrote: | cheat2win, you clearly have no grasp on the principle of casuality.
We measure the likelihood of events based in preceding events, not based in voided claims without any shred of reason to exist. |
Well, Nhiumewyn you also clearly do not have a grasp on the principle of causality, so that's that.
Plus I believe there are precedents for: Solar flares? Yes. Ice Ages? Yes. Polar shifting. Yes. Wars? Yes. Natural disasters? Yes. So what's the problem?
And I'm not clinging to negative events. There can also happen some breakthrough in science, that could usher us into a new age. No more diseases? No more hunger? Immortality? Discovery of extraterrestrial life?
If something like this would happen, it would be the end of the world as we know it.
All I'm saying is: there's so much shit that can happen, and it can happen on that day, of all coincidences. I'm not saying it will happen, only that it may happen.
zmed wrote: | It's not impossible, but it is actually crazy to expect anything. Especially on that particular date. Dec. 21 has the same exact chance of anything happening than Dec. 22. Or Dec 23. Or 24...not gona write it 365 times, ok?  |
All I'm saying is: there's so much shit that can happen, and it can happen on that day, of all coincidences. I'm not saying it will happen, only that it may happen.
zmed wrote: | Nope. These thing don't happen over night. These things take decades or even centuries. According to NASA, even a millennia. |
Oh, I know. I meant it could start from there, not that it would be instantaneous. It would be the beginning of the end.
zmed wrote: | See previous point. Shit like this doesn't come over night. 'Day After Tomorrow' was fiction. A bad one at that. |
Horrible to be correct.
zmed wrote: | There is nothing in the current political climate that would foreshadow anything like it. Maybe a terror attack, but that's hardly war, despite what the US propaganda tries to imply. |
Today, yes. Tomorrow we don't really know. Iran? North-Korea? How about China, who might want all their money back? Or with the current economical situation in Europe, we don't know that can happen.
zmed wrote: | Get ready for some serious disappointment then, because it will be just another day to postpone the last day Xmas shopping, like it was since forever. |
It wouldn't be a serious one, just like 1% of what could be achieved.
zmed wrote: | This whole thing sprung up from a single misinterpretation of a single cyclical calendar of a relatively primitive culture, and it was blown out of proportions by charlatans and frauds to sell books to gullible retards. |
I guess I'm more fascinated for what would the nay sayers say, if it did happen. Most people do the opposite. They wanna see what those who believe will be saying when it doesn't happen. I like to root for the villain.
And once again, I'm no saying that it will happen only that it can.
Can I has Armageddon now? 
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Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 22:38 Post subject: |
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cheat2win wrote: | I guess I'm more fascinated for what would the nay sayers say, if it did happen. | Mostly they would go two ways:
1: "Huh, I guess I was wrong." You know, unlike believers, who instead of admiting they are wrong would revise their lunacy, move the date, pull some idiotic excuse out of their ass, etc. We've seen this a million times and we will see it a million times again. Despite what true believers think, those who employ actual skepticism are not afraid to admit they are wrong. The whole scientific method is built upon being wrong and admitting to oneself if they are so we can weed out false ideas.
2: "Now that is a huge coincidence if I've ever seen one." Those who are skeptically minded understand that the world is full of coincidences. There will come a time when a widespread doomsday prophecy will just happen to coincide with some great calamity. It will have absolutely no bearing on the validity of the foretelling, but that won't stop the nutjobs to claim victory. After trying for thousand upon thousands of years, I guess they will deserve some blind luck on their part. 
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Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 23:22 Post subject: |
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zmed wrote: | cheat2win wrote: | I guess I'm more fascinated for what would the nay sayers say, if it did happen. | Mostly they would go two ways:
1: "Huh, I guess I was wrong." You know, unlike believers, who instead of admiting they are wrong would revise their lunacy, move the date, pull some idiotic excuse out of their ass, etc. We've seen this a million times and we will see it a million times again. Despite what true believers think, those who employ actual skepticism are not afraid to admit they are wrong. The whole scientific method is built upon being wrong and admitting to oneself if they are so we can weed out false ideas.
2: "Now that is a huge coincidence if I've ever seen one." Those who are skeptically minded understand that the world is full of coincidences. There will come a time when a widespread doomsday prophecy will just happen to coincide with some great calamity. It will have absolutely no bearing on the validity of the foretelling, but that won't stop the nutjobs to claim victory. After trying for thousand upon thousands of years, I guess they will deserve some blind luck on their part.  |
That's no fun.
But I agree, they would probably react like that.
The thing is: I like to think everything is possible. Or at least, that we do not know what is. Just looking back, people would burn those who said the Earth was not flat. Now we know it to be round. All I'm saying is: people shouldn't be fast in judging believes that go against their own.
And just to clarify once again, I'm not speaking exclusively of a doomsday scenario, but of any event, catastrophic or not that would change peoples lives.
Disclaimer: I'm not saying something will definitely happen, I'm just defending the possibility. 
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Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 23:26 Post subject: |
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End of the world? Will my house survive?
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Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 23:34 Post subject: |
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Number of murders/suicides/other bat shit crazy stuff will surely increase on the lead up to this?
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Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 23:35 Post subject: |
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If it somehow lasts the whole day I'm going on a nekkid stabbing rampage against every fucker that ever rubbed me the wrong way! 
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Posted: Sat, 18th Aug 2012 23:54 Post subject: |
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cheat2win wrote: | Nhiumewyn wrote: | cheat2win, you clearly have no grasp on the principle of casuality.
We measure the likelihood of events based in preceding events, not based in voided claims without any shred of reason to exist. |
Well, Nhiumewyn you also clearly do not have a grasp on the principle of causality, so that's that.
Plus I believe there are precedents for: Solar flares? Yes. Ice Ages? Yes. Polar shifting. Yes. Wars? Yes. Natural disasters? Yes. So what's the problem?
And I'm not clinging to negative events. There can also happen some breakthrough in science, that could usher us into a new age. No more diseases? No more hunger? Immortality? Discovery of extraterrestrial life?
If something like this would happen, it would be the end of the world as we know it.
All I'm saying is: there's so much shit that can happen, and it can happen on that day, of all coincidences. I'm not saying it will happen, only that it may happen.
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Which takes us back to my original question, that you neglected to address.
Why that day?
Why not tomorrow or why not 23 of September 2056?
Your hypothesized apocalyptic scenarios have the same likelihood of happening any of those days, so again, going back to voided claims without preceding casual premises.
Why do you believe that any of those events would take place specifically in December 21st 2012?
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Posted: Sun, 19th Aug 2012 00:19 Post subject: |
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cheat2win wrote: | Nhiumewyn wrote: |
Which takes us back to my original question, that you neglected to address.
Why that day?
Why not tomorrow or why not 23 of September 2056?
Your hypothesized apocalyptic scenarios have the same likelihood of happening any of those days, so again, going back to voided claims without preceding casual premises.
Why do you believe that any of those events would take place specifically in December 21st 2012? |
Why December 21? Why not? I do not believe something will happen, just that it can happen, and if it did happen to happen on said date, besides being a great coincidence would also be mindfucking for those who say it wouldn't happen on said date, or any other date for that matter. Just that.
Why not other date? Fine by me. I'm not defending the date itself, but...
It's not my fault the alien overlords have chosen this date to return.  |
That date has only a relevance to you due to the fact that you are aware of a mythos surrounding the mayan calendar and its abrupt ending on that specific date.
Otherwise, it would have no relevance whatsoever.
But since there is no substance to that specific mythos, any assumption is useless.
All that you're really saying is that everything that could possibly happen in nature, could potentially happen in December 21st.
Without any a priori causation, it's truly pointless, everyone is aware that our existence is fragile, and if something is possible, there's always a probability of happening.
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Posted: Sun, 19th Aug 2012 05:52 Post subject: |
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The thing I could imagine happening is a big economic crash but I do not think it will bring us to a mad max dystopian future. Just more of the usual misery.
Per Ardua Ad Astra
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Posted: Sun, 19th Aug 2012 08:10 Post subject: |
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With all the batshit craziness going on now I would not be surprised if something happens..
But to be honest I just want a zombie apocalypse.
Reality is merely an illusion, albeit a very persistent one
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Posted: Sun, 19th Aug 2012 08:15 Post subject: |
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that whole crap with 21.12.2012 was invented by hollywood and other fiction like books etclol (no kidding). Nothing ever came from the mayans themselves. And somehow became common believe ...
and cheat2win, just wondering, are you one of those guys who has an insurance in the case a meteor hits you "because it could happen" ? ^^
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Posted: Sun, 19th Aug 2012 08:22 Post subject: |
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i was watching one of those loose change wannabe movies where it's all "ooo scary stuff developed by the governments and we're all being mind controlled and every time we pay our taxes we let the governments govern our lives and tell us what to do therefore we're paying to live a life in prison" and they had a segment on 2012 thing and they were talking about how the frequency of earth has changed over the past years and each time the frequency changed there was a marking on the mayan calendar, therefore, obviously since 2012 has the same marking... the frequency of earth will change. Which can lead to either evolution, destruction, etc, etc, etc, etc, but it has happened before you know... that is if you actually believe that the united states caused 911, and that kennedy was assassinated before he announced alien life existed and that the moon landing was faked and shot in Australia, and that there's a shadow government controlling the world. Lol.
Nothing will happen. Just like god almighty didn't come down and punish us on those many prophesied occasions. This 'threat' is just as real as y2k and the alien bodies locked up in area 51.
What ever will happen will be mainly cause of us and our own doing, not something foreseen years ago.
Sin317 wrote: | that whole crap with 21.12.2012 was invented by hollywood and other fiction like books etclol (no kidding). Nothing ever came from the mayans themselves. And somehow became common believe ... |
Lol. Hollywood has a time machine? It's just speculation cause the calendar ends. that's it. and the calendar is real. and it's older than hollywood. and the whole end of the world wasn't invented by hollywood but by some wannabe famous person who went all "the calendar ends, they saw the end of the world, they mysteriously vanished... it's a sign! THE WORLD WILL END ON THAT SPECIFIC DATE!" that's that. Hollywood just made money out of it mainly because the whole 2012 didn't come to the public eye until after the whole end of the world movies. Before that, the calendar and the story behind it was known but only to those who actually bothered looking it up.
cheat2win wrote: | And after giving it a long and hard thought, I do not object it. There are a few people I wouldn't mind to bat their heads in... So I could save them from their decaying condition of course...  |
Mmm. You'd die before you'd bash a single skull. I don't understand why people want a zombie apoc. That shit just isn't cool. You'll die. No one will actually survive. It ain't gonna be like the movies where you find guns and shit and run for cover and kill zombies. You're gonna die. The guy who wants to be a hero will die. if there's a cure, it'll become available to public. Military will shoot everything on sight, and then die from the inside. Everyone will die before years end. Lol. Unless they're up in the mountains away from anyone, anything.
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