Remember when PCs...
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Interinactive
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2013 02:09    Post subject: Remember when PCs...
Were crap because new and updated parts would come out each and every year and your 'new' PC would suddenly look old?

Remember how if you wanted the latest and greatest tech you'd have to spend a few hundred every 6-12 months to stay up to date?

How new games wouldn't work on your older CPU/GPU/whatever else? And if you wanted to play them you'd have to upgrade?

Remember how if you wanted to take advantage of that new resolution/depth your GPU supported, you'd have to buy another screen?

So what's the big difference here between these sorts of 'negative' aspects, and owning a iPhone/iPad/Macbook?
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2013 02:54    Post subject:
As soon as the next gen consoles are out such bad times will return Sad


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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2013 04:35    Post subject:
Interesting point of view.
The difference is back then things were that way for technical reasons, and now it's all about artificial demand, created with the sole purpose of selling more. But it still is the same process of quick obsolescence (not to mention planned obsolescence, which is related)...
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2013 11:22    Post subject:
WhiteBarbarian wrote:
As soon as the next gen consoles are out such bad times will return Sad


Bad times? Hah! You should cherish the joy of finally getting games again every 6 months that put your rig to its knees!

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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2013 12:12    Post subject:
I remember always having a 'crappy' PC since I never could buy the best parts Sad
After my first proper job when I was a kid, I bought the GF4-TI, I was king for a couple of months then.
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PostPosted: Wed, 2nd Jan 2013 12:49    Post subject:
I remember that switching from my 486 DX4 100 MHz to an AMD 5x86 133 MHz was not a dramatic improvement. But then i got a Pentium 100 MHz (the one with the floating point unit bug) and the difference was huge. It ran so much faster i couldn't believe it.

Also, in my 486 i had a Realtek video card, on the ISA slot, with 512 kB memory. When i tried to play Warcraft 2 in 640x480 it was like 4 FPS. After a while i managed to buy a Cyrus Logic card, on the VLB slot, with 1 MB video RAM which i extended later to 2 MB. After that Warcraft 2 was smooth like butter in 640x480.

I have also seen this kind of major improvement when i switched from a Pentium II (Slot 1) to a Pentium IV 3 GHz, and then to an E8400 3 GHz.

Now i'm really lagging behind : i have an E8400 3 GHz, GTX260 with almost 1 GB video ram, and 6 GB RAM DDR 2. Runs fine, but next gen games will kill it.
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jan 2013 15:48    Post subject:
yes I remember those days, I remember having to upgrade my card to be able to play quake2 engine games, man those were exciting times lol.

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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jan 2013 15:59    Post subject:
Yes I remember Voodoo cards..

A little more modern - my 6yo Q6600 has still to find it's bottleneck lol...


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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jan 2013 16:39    Post subject:
Voodo 2 and Radeon 9800pro <3
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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jan 2013 16:46    Post subject:
garus wrote:
inz wrote:
WhiteBarbarian wrote:
As soon as the next gen consoles are out such bad times will return Sad


Bad times? Hah! You should cherish the joy of finally getting games again every 6 months that put your rig to its knees!

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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Jan 2013 16:57    Post subject:
Invasor wrote:
Interesting point of view.
The difference is back then things were that way for technical reasons, and now it's all about artificial demand, created with the sole purpose of selling more. But it still is the same process of quick obsolescence (not to mention planned obsolescence, which is related)...

This exactly.
back then it was tech advancing so fast it was how they could keep the new stuff on the cutting edge. Working with as much compatibility as possible, but not being compatible was choice they had to make to move forward, it wasn't the first choice of "lets milk the market to upgrade the entire PC".

Now with apple, its them limiting on purpose the tech, for the sole purpose of re-releasing what they could have done last time, to get new sales, with as LITTLE compatibility as possible.

So one was tech advancing faster than they could predict to stay in compatibility, the other is tech being withheld from the consumer on purpose, to dangle it like a carrot at them 6 months later.

So think of it like this...They invented the car, and someone went "Hey we can add a windshield, to stop dust! it wont fit on the old cars with the round hoods, but all new cars can have it and be better from this point forward!"
Then apple goes "we know they invented the windshield already..and we have a crap load of them in stock, but how can we promote it as 'special' unless we make a lot of cars without it now thats just a BIT better than our current cars, and make them rebuy cars in a year with windshield?


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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Jan 2013 01:34    Post subject:
all i can say when consoles began to be hip then PCs ...OVERALL computer tech advancement went DOWN HILL

in the old days every 6 months !!!!!! there was a technological advancement that made you go WOW

now when PS 1 came later PS2 then Xbox , Saturn , Xbox360 etc...

you can say every technological advancement is now put artificially on hold for the next generation of consoles ... first they have to MILK ALL THE WAY DOWN the current generation to go to the next ... but some are SCUM like Nintendo and its Gamecube that was re-released with a working motion sensor and re-named WII






and now the sad truth : we now live in a world when you have to work as 2 or 3 people combined in the same work place as before , work crazy hours to be able to pay for food or for living space ... in this world of crazy when you have not enough time ... Handheld gaming became the only way to go

you asked : So what's the big difference here between these sorts of 'negative' aspects, and owning a iPhone/iPad/Macbook?
here is my answer : TIME and PLACE ... its no longer the ''how much'' because we can afford it ,but we never have time to play it , i have like 190 titles from 2012 that i didn't finished or PLAYED or even UNPACKED FROM THEIRS ORIGINAL BOX !!! , i play more on my phone now then on my pc or console ... will i buy the next XYZ great GOTY yes but will i play it ... i don't know ......


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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Jan 2013 11:55    Post subject:
I don't recognize myself in any of what you've written Hfric. I have a PC and a Smartphone, no consoles whatsoever. I never play games on my phone (utterly shitty way to play other than simple and silly games). The hardware development on the PC have rocketed upwards almost constantly.

On the other hand, consoles make sure PC games aren't using the full power of the PC. The PC is so far beyond 360/PS3 that it's ridiculous, yet we're stuck with games on 360/PS3-levels. Can't wait for PS4/720 (or whatever) which will bring us to the next level.


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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Jan 2013 16:18    Post subject:
Frant wrote:
I don't recognize myself in any of what you've written Hfric. I have a PC and a Smartphone, no consoles whatsoever. I never play games on my phone (utterly shitty way to play other than simple and silly games). The hardware development on the PC have rocketed upwards almost constantly.

On the other hand, consoles make sure PC games aren't using the full power of the PC. The PC is so far beyond 360/PS3 that it's ridiculous, yet we're stuck with games on 360/PS3-levels. Can't wait for PS4/720 (or whatever) which will bring us to the next level.

Laughing funny

isn't

the more time you have the more you will write "I don't recognize myself in any of what you've written"


try working 12h a day/6 days a week and then try to play games or watch movies , find time to eat and sleep , find time to buy food etc...

the less time you have the more time you spend mobile gaming


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PostPosted: Sat, 5th Jan 2013 22:31    Post subject:
It is kind of cool to have Vice City on the phone. Laughing
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Jan 2013 02:13    Post subject:
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It is kind of cool to have Vice City on the phone. Laughing


I know!, quiet amazing actually, never would have thought I would have been playing GTA on my phone, my my times have changed. One day we'll be playing gta4 on our phones


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Jan 2013 05:13    Post subject:
LeoNatan wrote:
It is kind of cool to have Vice City on the phone. Laughing
i play psone games on my phone Devil Troll



and amiga and NES and GAMEBOY and SNES and GENESIS etc... not some shit Angry Birds Interinactive


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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Jan 2013 21:47    Post subject:
Fucking Genesis emu on my galaxy S3 lags so much it's nuts. No way to fix it
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PostPosted: Mon, 7th Jan 2013 21:56    Post subject:
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Fucking Genesis emu on my galaxy S3 lags so much it's nuts. No way to fix it


lol. sounds about right.
649 dollar phone can't run a 352 dollar console

http://gamasutra.com/view/news/177337/Sizing_up_Wii_Us_price_tag_against_history.php#.UOs2Bonjm5J Laughing


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PostPosted: Tue, 8th Jan 2013 02:07    Post subject: Re: Remember when PCs...
Interinactive wrote:
So what's the big difference here between these sorts of 'negative' aspects, and owning a iPhone/iPad/Macbook?


I have something different than a nostagia post. I think that you should accept that whatever gadget you buy will be outdated immediately, and definitely there should be a refresh every 6 months for those devices you can customize like a PC. I think most people who complain about the upgrade cycle of iDevices aren't past PC gamers, they are just the iTard community that they sell too (who probably all have dumbphones beforehand who are probably mostly 50 year old women). PC gamers/androids shouldn't bring this up as a con, besides recognizing that the majority population that buys iDevices aren't used to that kind of refresh cycle. Technology marches on I guess.

Hope that all makes sense, I have had several bonghits since I got home from work Smile I did proof read at least once Razz

(I also had a pentium 75 on win 3.1 in 1994 with a vga monitor, 40 mb hd and 640K ram and kings quest 5 in 1994! )


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