Brainstorming - Positive effects of gaming
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xGAME007




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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2013 21:31    Post subject: Brainstorming - Positive effects of gaming
Hi, my girlfriend is working on a project which would improve the global opinion, change the view and stop the stereotype judgment about gamers. Project is due tomorrow and she would be grateful if u can participate and take few minutes of your time and brainstorm the positive sides of gaming; for instance new friendships, social skills, traveling, better reflexes, teamwork, career, creativity, logic, Self-esteem, learning foreign languages, decision making, etc.

It wont take more than 5 minutes of your time, and it would be of great help to her Smile Just write the first things u think of when u hear sentence positive sides of gaming.


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2013 21:39    Post subject:
I didn't have time to deal crack and beat up old people when I was young, since I was inside playing games.
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2013 21:47    Post subject:
Gamers tend to be more open mind than rest of the average people, able to see the whole picture not just a part of it, and in some cases can boost your knowledge on different things. Ofc the answer should be longer, but sleepy as fuck right now, might give a proper answer later.
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2013 21:50    Post subject:
It's great for reflexes and attention to detail, I read that somewhere.

In my opinion it let's the men let of some steam like killing in VR instead of in real life, you can go hunting on your pc instead of bludgeoning a living mammal to death or crash a plane into a building (can't remember any games that let you do that though).
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2013 21:50    Post subject:
better to teach your kids to play games as soon as posible vs let them smoke with your local drug dealers.
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2013 21:51    Post subject:
It definately has some positive effects, but I don't think social skills is one of them.


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2013 21:57    Post subject:
JanKowalski82 wrote:
It definately has some positive effects, but I don't think social skills is one of them.


Mind if u explain why not? Smile
I think social skills is one of these effects, just take the tournament commentators for instance, they all are or have been gamers at some point in their life, played competitively and within that time they developed these skills. (i watch a lot of streams and heard them personally saying that). Smile And i see it on myself too Very Happy Or is just placebo effect xD


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2013 22:02    Post subject:
JanKowalski82 wrote:
It definately has some positive effects, but I don't think social skills is one of them.


That is based on your personality as well, being gamer doesn't mean you're insta socially awkward.
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2013 22:06    Post subject:
for instance new friendships, social skills, traveling, better reflexes, teamwork, career, creativity, logic, Self-esteem, learning foreign languages, decision making, etc.

friendships -> worked in the past without access to internet. a lot of times we stayed up at night trying to translate english games.
social skills -> doubt.
traveling - not sure what it means.
better reflexes -> true. you can add better memory, trained mind. at least a bit.
teamwork -> dont think it is the same deal like in real life. unless you play paintball or something.
carrer -> could help in case you find a job in game bussnis area. otherwise i dont see how.
creativity -> it is opening your mind, imagination. books do the same.
Self-esteem -> how ? because you pwned the other team ? Smile.
learning foreign languages -> could help. i learned a lot of stuff playing the dig, full throttle and some other.
decision making -> not sure how.

from my pov, outdoor activity's are on the first place for example. but not smoking, drinking, car driving. mountain trips with friends, hanging with friends on a fishing trip, going to drink a beer, ski and so.
i can see games being a secondary activity. instead of drinking cola, and getting fat watching tv.
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2013 22:33    Post subject:
I can relate to the visual improvements argument. Before I started playing video games a lot, I had somewhere around +5 on my right eye and +7 on the left eye. This had been going on ever since I was 3 and my parents discovered I have a problem. Once I started playing a lot (as in, all my free time, although this rarely happens anymore) my sight improved drastically. In two, maybe three years I reached +0.5 on my right eye and +2 on my left one.

Also, my hand-eye coordination and accuracy in pretty much everything is and has improved steadily over the years.

And one more effect, which everyone seems to overlook is thinking strategically. Such as finding alternative, faster solutions to problems, issues and every-day tasks or situations.

But I only played PC.

As for your initial inquiry, here it is.

new friendships - Always was a friendly person and never had any real trouble clicking with new people so this point is moot for me.
social skills, - I'm great at parties and social gatherings, I always make people laugh with my sarcasm, irony or situational humor.
traveling - Don't like it. Never was comfortable leaving my town unless it's for a similar setting (city)
better reflexes - Absolutely
teamwork - I work well with others...somewhat. I can't seem to be calm when someone makes a mistake and doesn't act according to the task or plan.
career - I work in games quality assurance. And for shit money, but I love it so there's that.
creativity - improved once I started gaming seriously.
logic - Again, as above, also, there's a larger note on this in the first part of the post.
Self-esteem - here is where I may be in the wrong, seeing as how my ego is huge and I can't really take insults or critics very well (badly-put critics, I was always a lover of constructive criticism)
learning foreign languages - I like to think of myself as a great English speaker. I also think in English, if that makes any sense to you.
decision making - I'm VERY impulsive when it comes to decisions.




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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2013 22:49    Post subject:
frogster wrote:
for instance new friendships, social skills, traveling, better reflexes, teamwork, career, creativity, logic, Self-esteem, learning foreign languages, decision making, etc.

friendships -> worked in the past without access to internet. a lot of times we stayed up at night trying to translate english games.
social skills -> doubt.
traveling - not sure what it means.
better reflexes -> true. you can add better memory, trained mind. at least a bit.
teamwork -> dont think it is the same deal like in real life. unless you play paintball or something.
carrer -> could help in case you find a job in game bussnis area. otherwise i dont see how.
creativity -> it is opening your mind, imagination. books do the same.
Self-esteem -> how ? because you pwned the other team ? Smile.
learning foreign languages -> could help. i learned a lot of stuff playing the dig, full throttle and some other.
decision making -> not sure how.

from my pov, outdoor activity's are on the first place for example. but not smoking, drinking, car driving. mountain trips with friends, hanging with friends on a fishing trip, going to drink a beer, ski and so.
i can see games being a secondary activity. instead of drinking cola, and getting fat watching tv.


friendship - yes it worked without access to internet, but u cant deny the fact u can make some good and quality new friendships (i met my gf first in call of duty 4 while she was killing me with claymores , and we added each other on xfire, started playing together, developed a nice friendship, and finally after almost 3 years of playing together and hanging out till early morning hours on teamspeak we met irl and from that moment we are in happy relationship Smile)
social skills - why not?
traveling - fairs, competitive gaming and so on
teamwork - competitive gaming, in team games and on high level gaming u need to know how to work and play with your team,
carrer - professional gamer for instance (project is largely focused on that part)
creativity - minecraft?
Self-esteem - well look it that way, its not everything in you and so close minded, if u respect your enemy, their skill, knowledge, from time to time when u reach higher lvl in some game after years of playing it, u will respect your effort and hard work and it can have impact on other aspects of life.
decision making - play starcraft (or other quality strategy games), moba games. Its gained passively and its well known that experienced gamers are very good at fast decision making.

I know that everything what i said u can get in some other way, but that is not the point here. A lot of people look at the gaming in a way u described it but in much more close-minded way, and the point is to show them that not everything is so bad as they think it is.


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2013 23:07    Post subject:
xGAME007 wrote:
JanKowalski82 wrote:
It definately has some positive effects, but I don't think social skills is one of them.


Mind if u explain why not? Smile
I think social skills is one of these effects, just take the tournament commentators for instance, they all are or have been gamers at some point in their life, played competitively and within that time they developed these skills. (i watch a lot of streams and heard them personally saying that). Smile And i see it on myself too Very Happy Or is just placebo effect xD


Your expmple is rather exception to the rule, than the rule itself. Generally:

more time spent in front of a computer (not only gaming) -> less time spent outside, talking to people -> worse social skills

Someone who becaomes a commentator either has a natural talent for it or he sucks at the beginning and gets better with practice. Don't think it has anythink to do with gaming. Gaming helps them gain the necessary knowledge about the game of course. By watching gaming videos you can also learn from other commantators.

I also don't think that being a commentator automatically means you have good social skills. Let's take Total Biscuit for instance. He's a good commentator, but I don't think he's a very likable person. He often behaves kind of like a dick IMO.


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2013 23:08    Post subject:
I know that everything what i said u can get in some other way, but that is not the point here. A lot of people look at the gaming in a way u described it but in much more close-minded way, and the point is to show them that not everything is so bad as they think it is.


agree, but for the closed minds, if they dont play games, they will not understand. she will probably get something in the line of "heh, she live in a fantasy world".

and there are some really bad examples of gamers.
take a look at dota 1 comunity, which go insane if you miss one click. what good games did to them ?
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2013 23:15    Post subject:
She could easily compare watching TV to playing video games in any form.

Recently I had disscussion with wife of my friend.
She is STRONGLY against gaming. She forbids him, to even own a console.

So I asked her, what does She/He does when back from work in the evening.

she/he watches Tv.... and NO GOD DAMN arguments would get to get that playing games is like watching tv but brain is more active. nope. she says gaming is for kids and it's stupid. tv is ok Facepalm


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2013 23:34    Post subject:
Positive side of gaming for: distraction. Lets say you had a fucking awful day at work. You come home and it's time to relax. So you start playing some games and now you are not thinking about your shit day. You are away from all the shitty things for a short time.


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2013 23:38    Post subject:
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well she obviously has no idea what gaming is, just because they're called "games" doesn't mean they are meant for kids only, no wonder she's so close minded as she has never experienced something with her own set of mind but only what society deems acceptable for her.
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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2013 23:39    Post subject:
frogster wrote:
friendships -> worked in the past without access to internet. a lot of times we stayed up at night trying to translate english games.
learning foreign languages -> could help. i learned a lot of stuff playing the dig, full throttle and some other.


It's the other way around, I'd say grinhurt


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2013 23:46    Post subject:
tonizito wrote:
frogster wrote:
friendships -> worked in the past without access to internet. a lot of times we stayed up at night trying to translate english games.
learning foreign languages -> could help. i learned a lot of stuff playing the dig, full throttle and some other.


It's the other way around, I'd say grinhurt

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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2013 23:54    Post subject:
Positive side of gaming:

I kill things in games, instead of real life.


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PostPosted: Wed, 9th Jan 2013 23:55    Post subject:
games are a good way to improve and/or acquire english as a non native speaker
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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jan 2013 00:03    Post subject:
Gaming is hands down my favorite form of entertainment but saying that it had a 100% positive impact on my life would be telling a lie. Razz There have been some pros though.

All the years spent playing thousands of different games have surely helped me to keep my brain trained, as well as my logical skills and reflexes, but most importantly, they managed to improve my averag-ish English skills (although there's still a lot of work to do Razz).

I would definitely exclude social skills and anything related to that, I guess it's because I'm a lone-wolf who rarely plays something that requires collaboration with other people (I'm more into competitive challenge). If anything, gaming has made me grumpier. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jan 2013 00:09    Post subject:
yeah. I agree with ixi. English too, as some of You can say :facE:


as for social skills? almost 5 years ago I went outside. Just this one time. Got gf immidietly. Now I have gf and don't need t go outside ever again Cool Face

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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jan 2013 00:15    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
yeah. I agree with ixi. English too, as some of You can say :facE:


as for social skills? almost 5 years ago I went outside. Just this one time. Got gf immidietly. Now I have gf and don't need t go outside ever again Cool Face

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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jan 2013 00:32    Post subject:
ixigia wrote:
KillerCrocker wrote:
yeah. I agree with ixi. English too, as some of You can say :facE:


as for social skills? almost 5 years ago I went outside. Just this one time. Got gf immidietly. Now I have gf and don't need t go outside ever again Cool Face

+ + +

That's because you're keeping her chained up in your basement! Cool Face Razz


she is well fed. Don't worry Cool Face
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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jan 2013 00:54    Post subject:
KillerCrocker wrote:
yeah. I agree with ixi. English too, as some of You can say :facE:
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PostPosted: Thu, 10th Jan 2013 01:24    Post subject:
Dexterity and Eye-Hand coordination
Learning faster , some games (RPG/RTS in most cases) make you memorise a lot of stuff (dialogs , descriptions , etc) and with this you train your brain to learn and remembering new stuff in a relative easy way
Creativity , games make you more creative , your brain will be boomed with tons of awesome ideas, words , people , etc , look at how many awesome videos you can find on youtube with great stuff , minecraft constructions (some of them are reaaaaaaaaaaaly impressive) short movies , etc
Friendships , i have a lot of friends i met in games and i had lots of great time with them
A very excellent stress "repellent" , if you come home stressed for whatever reasons games are just perfect to make you feel better
Motivations , if you play a game with a really good motivating story that might help you to actually do stuff for you and look forward to whatever you wanna look forward to (this didn't actually happened to me)
Social skills , not necessary for talking with people in games but you see many characters with different personality's and way of thinking , you got familiar with a lot of ideas and way to think, or by experience with talking with people in games
Learning English , i learned most of my English skills from games (RPG's mostly) in school i did not learned much , they way they teach in schools new languages did not fit me so i learned from games (this wasn't intentional i did not planed to learn it from games , it just happened)

Bad side is... even though through games you can learn a lot of stuff that are useful in life gaming also can make you lose them , it can transform you in a antisocial that never leave the house , is an obsession for some people (and i know few) they lost everything , friends , family , jobs , whatever they had , even though you can learn much from them can easily turn into a obsession witch is hard to escape from

And personal curiosity can anyone explain to me how you can get an visual improvement through games ? is more likely to damage your eyes , looking in bright flashy objects all day isn't quite healthy for eyes


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