EA: ngen retail games may cost $70 + all will have microtr.
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consolitis
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 11:55    Post subject: EA: ngen retail games may cost $70 + all will have microtr.
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=48364192&postcount=1
http://investors.ea.com/eventdetail.cfm?EventID=125912

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They have never been more prepaired or ready for a new console launch
Giant leap for the industry, every step and function. "Between 8 & 10 times the power of current generation."
Not limited to current generation "1080p, 60 fps, camera IQ"
All of internal software will work flawlessly.
What used to take months will now "take days" to do.
Seeing new ways to approach current IP's and new IP's.
The ability to have cross platform play, will open up new consumer base.
EA has slimmed down their lineup from 85 games to 15 core titles
Allows stream lining the backbone of game creation
Sony and Microsoft in-line for their transition will reduce cost of production
5% to 10% increase in cost of production on current games.
No pricing on retail games set, but you may see a trend of "$69.99" at start and dropping down to $59.99 similar to the beginning of the current generation.
Saving time and money in comparison to the roadmap they set up last year.
Data collected on gamers through created technology and algorithms allow them to engage the players.
Gross margin as gone from 55% in 2010 to 55-65% range currently.
Due to the transition into the digital world from boxed gaming.
Discussed the progression and advantage of the PS4 in regards to downloading games
Many more opportunities in "always on" connected gaming
The focus is always focused on the "consumer experience"
Discussion of margins in regards to digital expansion packs and the margins it drives
Doing so builds an actual community, and overall over time, more profitability
Building into all games micro-transaction: "Consumers are enjoying and embracing that way of the business"
Over $25 Million revenue in micro-transactions alone last quarter. [Note: This is just The Simpsons iOS alone, not total microtransaction revenue.]
Much has been learned on infrastructure in regards to the failed iOs launch of the Simpsons.
Absence at PS4 reveal is not indicative to their status on the console.
Between now and E3 you will see a lot of stuff from EA
Thrilled with the PS4 specs - the new Battlefield is stunning


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 11:57    Post subject:
dont give a shit
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 12:00    Post subject:
ah well, EA will never ever see a dime from me again, so they can price their shit as high as they want to. but i'll sure as shit download their overpriced crap Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 12:01    Post subject:
ISO demo still will be for free.


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 12:02    Post subject:
as long as the ps4 gets hacked, yeah.


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 12:05    Post subject:
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Many more opportunities in "always on" connected gaming

hate that shit
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 12:05    Post subject:
prudislav wrote:
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Many more opportunities in "always on" connected gaming

hate that shit


Welcome to the future of 100% streamed content Wink
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 12:08    Post subject:
And they are right on track to getting the worst company in the US award again Very Happy

Good job EA, can't have it that people might actually start to like you as company right? Laughing


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 12:12    Post subject:
I just see something thats related to consoles. They planning to do this for pc too?

even if they did fuck em lulz who the hell uses origin anyways


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 12:19    Post subject:
A bit OT, but still related. I always wondered why console games were so 'neatly' priced, no matter what publisher released the game. How is that possible? Do all publishers uphold some unwritten pricing law? You can regularly see variation in price when it's a PC game, even in a regular retail shop, but I don't remember any console game deviating from that magic mark (budget games ignored).
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0wen




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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 12:21    Post subject:
If these end up being $70 and all you get is a digital code to download the games, I think I will give up console gaming especially with the way the PS3 only allows 5 reinstalls of the digital content so I can see the PS4 following suit.
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 12:28    Post subject:
Mister_s wrote:
A bit OT, but still related. I always wondered why console games were so 'neatly' priced, no matter what publisher released the game. How is that possible? Do all publishers uphold some unwritten pricing law? You can regularly see variation in price when it's a PC game, even in a regular retail shop, but I don't remember any console game deviating from that magic mark (budget games ignored).


It's combination of MSRP + some share for Microsoft (due to the fact that XBOX in the begging was sold under the cost of manufacturing) atleast in case of XBOX.
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 13:49    Post subject:
http://www.oxm.co.uk/50616/ea-all-our-games-will-have-micro-transactions/

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"We are building into all of our games the ability to pay for things along the way; to get to a higher level," Jorgensen declared, "And consumers are enjoying and embracing that way of business."




TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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Dear lord


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 13:53    Post subject:
70 usd for a game? Welcome to my world, bitches Very Happy


honestly, all this will do is make people more bitter, drive up piracy, push down preorders, and make low low low price sales much more attractive (and by extention, WAITING for those sales, rather than buying new)

but honestly, i dont give a fuck. very few games these days are ever worth paying full price for anyway.


ALSO i would never target blame exclusively at EA over this stuff, when activision really are the leaders in jacking up pricing, and wanting to go even further, and WB and Sega are also getting in on this shit. WB were the second ones after activision to push up the pricing on steam to 100 usd for nz/au, after activision did it.


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 13:58    Post subject:
Meh looks like its console only so not a big deal. Probably SONY is asking for a bigger cut.
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 14:07    Post subject:
nope, its pc as well. otherwise why else would it be in the pc section? unless you're saying SOMEONE doesnt know the difference between a pc and a console... but that would just be embarrassing....


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 15:27    Post subject:
Price isnt everything, these points are far more alarming imo:

Seeing new ways to approach current IP's and new IP's.
The ability to have cross platform play, will open up new consumer base.
EA has slimmed down their lineup from 85 games to 15 core titles
Allows stream lining the backbone of game creation


So basically what they're saying is that EA want to streamline their titles further, dumbing them down even more and adding more superficial gfx awesomeoness so they can sell their titles for any price.
Although as Ive stated earlier, Im very happy this is happening. The cause effect will be an ever growing alternative scene with some of the older truer pc devs and new guys with a distaste for EA will keep making better and higher quality games that arent as derped and "stream lined" as most AAA titles.


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 15:29    Post subject:
My wallet is ready lol wut


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 15:58    Post subject:
So what is everyone thinking about the chances of getting console ports on PC? I mean developers will be concentrating more on console releases, right? Because consoles are new sales should be at a high for new games. So will that mean less games for PC?


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 17:00    Post subject:
zipfero wrote:
prudislav wrote:
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Many more opportunities in "always on" connected gaming

hate that shit


Welcome to the future of 100% streamed content Wink


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Me personally I'm in.


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 19:30    Post subject:
The problem is not "just" the 70€/$ . . .

The problem is also that is bind to an account, you might not even be able to resell . . .


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 19:58    Post subject:
Arukardo wrote:

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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 20:37    Post subject:
EA's intentions have been clear since forever, this is their perfect vision of the future, and as long as micro-transactions are a marginal aspect aimed to the sheeps willing to shell money for iHats and silly gadgets made in EA, I can live with that.

As for the price, piracy will fix everything Cool Face , at least when it comes to most of these overrated AAA games. Besides, I don't think that the PC's future is in danger.
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 21:54    Post subject:
What you youngsters may not understand is that the gamesindustry is, as the name suggests, a business. There is no space for developers and publishers who are doing it for any other reasons than maximizing profit.

EA is clearly doing the right thing and showing other publishers where the future lies.
You didn`t complain about the real money auction house in diablo why should you complain now?
Besides there are more reasons to raise the price of video games. Lets face it, the new console generation demands more investment from the publishers side.

Long story short it is 2013 and not as easy as in the atari console era to develop games.
Deal with it!


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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 22:00    Post subject:


TWIN PEAKS is "something of a miracle."
"...like nothing else on television."
"a phenomenon."
"A tangled tale of sex, violence, power, junk food..."
"Like Nothing On Earth"

~ WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY CAN ONLY BE SEEN ~

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHTUOgYNRzY
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PostPosted: Wed, 27th Feb 2013 22:03    Post subject:
have I been coaxed into a snafu
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PostPosted: Thu, 28th Feb 2013 00:55    Post subject:
So the retail game will cost 70 dollars, it will have extra dlc bullshit for another 20 dollars per dlc and to top it off they will add microtransactions(as we can see from dead space 3, micro means 10 fucking dollars, price of the some of the dlc-s). How fucking greedy you can be? Man they just want me to pirate their games. Who comes up with this money milking bs bs anyway. If this triple layer milking bs spreads to other game companys i have to go full indie or quit gaming altogether, i just can't take this. Yeah you can say that pirate it, but if you have microtransactions in game who says they will not alter the gameplay so much that without it, it will feel like you are playing mmo so you have grind for shit or buy it for 'micro' price of 10 dollars per. Facepalm
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