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 Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 12:49 Post subject: IGN rushes through PJSideScroller, lies, is called out |
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 12:52 Post subject: |
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Is there a rule that says a journo is not supposed to play games on casual/easy? Not AFAIK. So what if he played it on that?
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 12:58 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 12:58 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | | Is there a rule that says a journo is not supposed to play games on casual/easy? Not AFAIK. So what if he played it on that? |
Well he could play it with only one hand if he wanted, but since he is reviewing the game you should explore and play the game quite a bit, and then ATLEAST try it on an harder difficulty.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 12:59 Post subject: |
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| Lokhart wrote: | | consolitis wrote: | | Is there a rule that says a journo is not supposed to play games on casual/easy? Not AFAIK. So what if he played it on that? |
Well he could play it with only one hand if he wanted, but since he is reviewing the game you should explore and play the game quite a bit, and then ATLEAST try it on an harder difficulty. |
Plus he explicitly said that he played it on normal = lying. Deliberate or not is another matter.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 12:59 Post subject: |
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chiv
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 13:03 Post subject: |
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meh i just think any reviewer with integrity, should review the game in the manner it was designed to be played, so as to give a review that accurately represents the product.
likewise i wouldnt expect a reviewer to review a game using cheats which defang any threats or intesity, or any challenge.
its like a reviewer claiming he has integrity when he reviews movies by fast-forwarding through them, and just watching bits of it.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 13:13 Post subject: |
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| Interinactive wrote: | | consolitis wrote: | | Is there a rule that says a journo is not supposed to play games on casual/easy? Not AFAIK. So what if he played it on that? |
Erm.. because he said he reviewed the full game when he didn't? For him to have had done so he would have had to done it on normal difficulty - the point of the topic. |
But how is he supposed to have known that? Was there a warning screen when he selected the difficulty that part of the game won't be playable??? If not, by all means, in his mind that was the full game.
| Quote: | | If he had, why did he remove parts of the review soon after being caught out? It's got nothing to do with what he played it on but how he lied about it, and for what purpose? This would happen so much for so many "reviewed" games. |
Well yeah, no excuses about him lying.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 13:17 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 13:24 Post subject: |
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Well yeah, as I said no excuses for lying. He should have simply replied "Yes I did, so what's your point?" and be done with it.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 13:36 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | | Well yeah, as I said no excuses for lying. He should have simply replied "Yes I did, so what's your point?" and be done with it. |
When you are a professional journalist you should do things professionally.
This means that you should play the game on various difficulty settings. And then say things like: "easy is too easy" "hard is impossible" etc. Just to see how the game is balanced and whatnot. Let's not forget that a game reviewer gets PAID to write about a game that he should play for more than 10 minutes. Reviews, especially big sites ones, can influnece the sale of a game alot. I'm not saying that he should talk well about a game no matter what, but that his review should cover every aspect of that game.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 13:49 Post subject: |
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| Lokhart wrote: | | consolitis wrote: | | Well yeah, as I said no excuses for lying. He should have simply replied "Yes I did, so what's your point?" and be done with it. |
When you are a professional journalist you should do things professionally.
This means that you should play the game on various difficulty settings. And then say things like: "easy is too easy" "hard is impossible" etc. Just to see how the game is balanced and whatnot. Let's not forget that a game reviewer gets PAID to write about a game that he should play for more than 10 minutes. Reviews, especially big sites ones, can influnece the sale of a game alot. I'm not saying that he should talk well about a game no matter what, but that his review should cover every aspect of that game. |
That might be so, but nobody does this. At best there is a mention "oh, I picked the medium difficulty btw" or "I had to lower the difficulty because the game was too hard".
So his only fault compared to all the other reviewers is that he lied about the difficulty he chose. And he didn't lie in the review itself, but on twitter so it's not like he misrepresented the game with his review. He wrote exactly what he experienced. If he knew he wouldn't experience the full game on this difficulty he might have chosen a higher one.
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chiv
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 13:50 Post subject: |
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i dont really expect reviewers to play on all difficulty settings, though i do think that for the sake of journalistic integrity, all reviews SHOULD be done no normal, because i think that not only represents the intended state of the game that the developers have, but also represents the experience most gamers will have when playing the game.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 13:53 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | | Lokhart wrote: | | consolitis wrote: | | Well yeah, as I said no excuses for lying. He should have simply replied "Yes I did, so what's your point?" and be done with it. |
When you are a professional journalist you should do things professionally.
This means that you should play the game on various difficulty settings. And then say things like: "easy is too easy" "hard is impossible" etc. Just to see how the game is balanced and whatnot. Let's not forget that a game reviewer gets PAID to write about a game that he should play for more than 10 minutes. Reviews, especially big sites ones, can influnece the sale of a game alot. I'm not saying that he should talk well about a game no matter what, but that his review should cover every aspect of that game. |
That might be so, but nobody does this. At best there is a mention "oh, I picked the medium difficulty btw" or "I had to lower the difficulty because the game was too hard".
So his only fault compared to all the other reviewers is that he lied about the difficulty he chose. And he didn't lie in the review itself, but on twitter so it's not like he misrepresented the game with his review. He wrote exactly what he experienced. If he knew he wouldn't experience the full game on this difficulty he might have chosen a higher one. |
Because nobody does this doesn't make him right. Everyone is wrong, that's why you get alot of shit reviews. And as chiv said, casual is the equivalent of "i never played a game before in my life" or "i'm mentally challenged", as a reviewer it shouldn't be your first game 
It's like reviewing bayonetta on casual (where you have to only press A to progress through the game) and bashing it because it's too easy and the gameplay too simple.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 13:56 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: | | i dont really expect reviewers to play on all difficulty settings, though i do think that for the sake of journalistic integrity, all reviews SHOULD be done no normal, because i think that not only represents the intended state of the game that the developers have, but also represents the experience most gamers will have when playing the game. |
Would you say the same thing if instead of playing on casual, he had played it on hard, and complained eg that the game is really really hard?
And then the developers would call him out "ha, I know that you didn't play it on normal!" and he would lie "but no I did" and then he would edit his review removing the part that the game is super-super-hard to the point he just wanted to be done with it?
Would you still say "for the sake of journalistic integrity, all reviews SHOULD be done no normal, because i think that not only represents the intended state of the game that the developers have, but also represents the experience most gamers will have when playing the game." or not?
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 14:03 Post subject: |
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| consolitis wrote: | | chiv wrote: | | i dont really expect reviewers to play on all difficulty settings, though i do think that for the sake of journalistic integrity, all reviews SHOULD be done no normal, because i think that not only represents the intended state of the game that the developers have, but also represents the experience most gamers will have when playing the game. |
Would you say the same thing if instead of playing on casual, he had played it on hard, and complained eg that the game is really really hard?
And then the developers would call him out "ha, I know that you didn't play it on normal!" and he would lie "but no I did" and then he would edit his review removing the part that the game is super-super-hard to the point he just wanted to be done with it?
Would you still say "for the sake of journalistic integrity, all reviews SHOULD be done no normal, because i think that not only represents the intended state of the game that the developers have, but also represents the experience most gamers will have when playing the game." or not? |
um.. yes?
if a reviewer played the game on hard, and then said he found the game ludicrously difficult and unbalanced and he didnt enjoy it, yes, i would think that was a poor way to review the game... |
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 14:03 Post subject: |
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You can't spell ignorant fucking losers, without IGN.
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 14:18 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: | | consolitis wrote: | | chiv wrote: | | i dont really expect reviewers to play on all difficulty settings, though i do think that for the sake of journalistic integrity, all reviews SHOULD be done no normal, because i think that not only represents the intended state of the game that the developers have, but also represents the experience most gamers will have when playing the game. |
Would you say the same thing if instead of playing on casual, he had played it on hard, and complained eg that the game is really really hard?
And then the developers would call him out "ha, I know that you didn't play it on normal!" and he would lie "but no I did" and then he would edit his review removing the part that the game is super-super-hard to the point he just wanted to be done with it?
Would you still say "for the sake of journalistic integrity, all reviews SHOULD be done no normal, because i think that not only represents the intended state of the game that the developers have, but also represents the experience most gamers will have when playing the game." or not? |
um.. yes?
if a reviewer played the game on hard, and then said he found the game ludicrously difficult and unbalanced and he didnt enjoy it, yes, i would think that was a poor way to review the game... |
Well good then. 
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 14:39 Post subject: |
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| chiv wrote: | | i dont really expect reviewers to play on all difficulty settings, though i do think that for the sake of journalistic integrity, all reviews SHOULD be done no normal, because i think that not only represents the intended state of the game that the developers have, but also represents the experience most gamers will have when playing the game. |
Well most console derps are going to playing on casual so he has played the correct difficulty setting to reflect most gamers ;P
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 15:01 Post subject: |
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yeah but normal on a console game IS casual difficulty. CASUAL difficulty on a console game is like god mode and infinite ammo or something, isnt it?
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 15:27 Post subject: |
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if a reviewer played it on hard and found it ludicrously difficult, but rewarding then the game would be worth it. if a game is hard and not at all rewarding, then it's a shit game.
IGN doesn't give a fuck about games anymore. They rarely review the full product. They just want the first factor when it comes to reviews. They say game is good cause of the dev, the visuals look awesome in the first 20 minutes. game play feels fluent in the first 20 minutes, and for the story they'll get their kids to play it while they wait... 
Fucking useless bunch of assholes.
And chiv... @chiv... once you get a console, and play it, you'll understand the difficulty settings. :>
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 15:38 Post subject: |
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IGN is shit,  game journos at it again...
Nothing to see here, move along...
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 15:39 Post subject: |
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2 things I really dont care about: IGN and the latest crappy indie developer side scroller
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| Posted: Thu, 27th Oct 2011 15:48 Post subject: |
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Soo..today I learned that IGN reviewers are both derps and liars.
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