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 Posted: Thu, 16th May 2013 19:00 Post subject: What if.... |
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You had the power to predict how other people would die, but not when. Would you tell someone? What would you do?
I am kinda inspired by boredom and the rain...
It's kinda different from that series of stories the death machine iirc.
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Thu, 16th May 2013 19:02 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Thu, 16th May 2013 19:04 Post subject: |
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No, I wouldn't have the heart to do it and I'd feel like it was a heavy curse and burden just having that knowledge.
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| Posted: Thu, 16th May 2013 19:08 Post subject: Re: What if.... |
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| dingo_d wrote: | | I am kinda inspired by boredom and the rain... |
You need to play some computa games, son... 
And no, wouldn't tell them.
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| Posted: Thu, 16th May 2013 19:09 Post subject: |
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If the death was something like "yeah you're gonna die by choking on a girls bra while trying to take it off while the other minor is spanking your old ass (age 92)" I would definitely tell them.
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| sabin1981 wrote: | | No, I wouldn't have the heart to do it and I'd feel like it was a heavy curse and burden just having that knowledge. |
my thought exactly, I wouldn't even want a "power" like this.
Kind of like, would you want to know the exact moment of when and how you die? Nope...nope....nope!
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| Posted: Thu, 16th May 2013 21:20 Post subject: |
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Oh I plan to play games this summer when I'm done with my last exam 
I was waiting for the bus to go, and was bored and in a weird mood and I was looking through the window at people and a thought struck me: what if you had the power when you look at ppl you can see how they would die.
I was reminded by that good book: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Machine_of_Death, but started to think what would happen if a person had such power.
I think that most couldn't bear it, and would probably kill themselves. But there could be those who would try to exploit it somehow, and gain power and influence.
And then there would be those who would yell it out loud, no one would believe them, so they would probably throw them in an insane asylum 
Someone could try to write a good essay about this
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Thu, 16th May 2013 21:55 Post subject: |
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I would use the crap out of it.
Start a side job of charging people to know if they wanted to. If they didn't believe me...Id pick famous people that are easy for them to track, give the reasons, and let them die over time showing I have 100% success rate.
It would be my conversation starter when bored and around strangers "Hey, man you want to know how you will die?"
But then it gets into the paradox of if you tell someone, they could change it. Say someone dies by falling off a moving train and you tell them..well if they avoid trains after that...or does the power account for this, and predict the new death? and if you tell them the new death, they dont avoid trains. Therefor did you avert the time he SHOULD have fell off the train and died? since its no longer true based on the "fall off train, told he will, avoids trains, so death changes, so your answer changes, so he doesn't avoid trains..."
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| Posted: Thu, 16th May 2013 23:20 Post subject: |
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The question is, who would believe you anyway
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| Posted: Thu, 16th May 2013 23:30 Post subject: |
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| DXWarlock wrote: | I would use the crap out of it.
Start a side job of charging people to know if they wanted to. If they didn't believe me...Id pick famous people that are easy for them to track, give the reasons, and let them die over time showing I have 100% success rate.
It would be my conversation starter when bored and around strangers "Hey, man you want to know how you will die?"
But then it gets into the paradox of if you tell someone, they could change it. Say someone dies by falling off a moving train and you tell them..well if they avoid trains after that...or does the power account for this, and predict the new death? and if you tell them the new death, they dont avoid trains. Therefor did you avert the time he SHOULD have fell off the train and died? since its no longer true based on the "fall off train, told he will, avoids trains, so death changes, so your answer changes, so he doesn't avoid trains..." |
I think that the power predict this. Like you say: you're going to die by falling off a moving train, and they try everything to avoid it, and then they have some freaky accident where they slip on a banana on an overpass and fall on a train, and then fall off of it and die xD
Try reading the book I mentioned, it's a really good book 
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| Posted: Fri, 17th May 2013 00:31 Post subject: |
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| Nalo wrote: | I imagine such power would be very lucrative in the right hands... yes  |
If that means making all those fake leechy fortune-tellers lose their 'job', then  GOOD
OT: My answer would be no, telling them the truth would radically change their lives - for the worse, and perhaps they would end up dying even sooner  |
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| Posted: Fri, 17th May 2013 04:39 Post subject: |
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definately, but for a price. be good business, and this way i know that ill only tell people who definately want to know.
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You'd get to know a lot of different cancer types!
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Fri, 17th May 2013 08:32 Post subject: |
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Since I am not a determinist, I believe the whole idea is a fallacy. In my view there is no determined future, and hence you cannot know how, when or why people will die.
Yes, yes I'm back.
Somewhat.
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| Posted: Fri, 17th May 2013 08:39 Post subject: |
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So you don't believe in the combination of a holistic view and prediction based on observation? Actually, neither do I since observation affects the outcome of the result.
At most we can use statistics to make semi-educated guesses but that's it.
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| Posted: Fri, 17th May 2013 09:00 Post subject: |
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| fisk wrote: | | Since I am not a determinist, I believe the whole idea is a fallacy. In my view there is no determined future, and hence you cannot know how, when or why people will die. |
But but its magic!
"Enlightenment is man's emergence from his self-imposed nonage. Nonage is the inability to use one's own understanding without another's guidance. This nonage is self-imposed if its cause lies not in lack of understanding but in indecision and lack of courage to use one's own mind without another's guidance. Dare to know! (Sapere aude.) "Have the courage to use your own understanding," is therefore the motto of the enlightenment."
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| Posted: Fri, 17th May 2013 14:57 Post subject: |
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| fisk wrote: | | Since I am not a determinist, I believe the whole idea is a fallacy. In my view there is no determined future, and hence you cannot know how, when or why people will die. |
Valid point
"Quantum mechanics is actually, contrary to it's reputation, unbeliveably simple, once you take the physics out."
Scott Aaronson | chiv wrote: | | thats true you know. newton didnt discover gravity. the apple told him about it, and then he killed it. the core was never found. |
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| KillerCrocker wrote: | | yeah I am not sure if I believe in the future but I sure do believe in Karma... and let's say if someone is a dick, I would tell him that karma will brutally kill him soon |
You...you don't believe in the future?
This happened after you wrote that. So it's in the future.
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| Posted: Fri, 17th May 2013 15:32 Post subject: |
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The big question is: will telling them make any difference? Will they be able to avoid it even if they knew? If not then this power isn't so much great.
If yes - then maybe. Depends on what happens afterwards. Does that help them or they die sooner? If you know you're gonna die in a plane crash, I'll fucking drive a car with 250 with no worries ever.. unless a plane crashes into my car
If you can't tell them, it'd be sad, but mostly irrelevant - they might go at any moment - when you hear about it, you'll just know how it happened.
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| Posted: Fri, 17th May 2013 17:56 Post subject: |
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And that unforeseen circumstance situation of dying in a plane crash..and a plane hit your car, for example, cant be used to 'wiggle' around all the options.
Say the death is "You will be mauled to death by the german shepard you own named Bob, in the living room of your current home you own while watching the simpsons". Pretty specific there.
I mean sure someone could probably think of a round about way that could be fulfilled. But you get what I'm saying.
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