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 Posted: Mon, 14th Jun 2004 17:09 Post subject: [PSP] will play station portable games be crackable? |
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http://www.digitalbackspin.com/pspinfo.htm
Doesn't look like it.... Looks like some funky proprietary (sp?) disk/cart type system. I will buy one if I can get warez for it. Otherwise..... there's no way in hell I am paying $30 a pop to play old playstation games on the shitter.
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Jun 2004 17:22 Post subject: |
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They arent all (not many even) going to be PS1 games.....most of them are all new games. GT4? new Tristed Metal? New adventure games?
Ill be getting one Im sure, I just dont know when. It depends on the price.
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|MaguS|
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Jun 2004 17:26 Post subject: |
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I dout it. Sony has stated that not even developers will have the hardware to write to the disc's. Sony wont even release full info on how it works. There won't be many "ports" to the handheld since all games has to go through sony for approval and sony already stated they want many unique games on it (will still get ports but mainly only high profile titles).
BTW It's PS2 quality and higher (has more effects then the PS2) so no you wont be playing old Playstation games...
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Jun 2004 08:11 Post subject: |
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Depends on the price is I guess which'll depend on whether I get one, they look quite coo' after watching the Sony conference at E3 but I can imagine they'll probably retail at like £300 (uk)
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Jun 2004 18:30 Post subject: |
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Sony said that the psp will cost abit extra, but the games will real cheap. So i'm getting one for sure.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Jun 2004 19:19 Post subject: |
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The last portable gaming device I bought was a gameboy. Never really did get into the next ones. Possibly because it was around that time that nesticle came out.
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| Posted: Tue, 15th Jun 2004 23:33 Post subject: |
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It does have a Memory Slot thow for maybe Possible Homebrew Games 
Anyway... Get a GP32 !!!! SNES, NES, MEGADRIVE, GAMEBOY, GAMEBOY COLOUR, MASTER SYSTEM, ATARI ST (AND one HELL of alot more consoles) DivX, XviD, MP3, IMAGE VIEWER, Old PC Games Like DOOM and DOOM 2 And MUCH MUCH MUCH More ALL in ONE Hand Held Console!!!!!!!! PLus Homemade Games ... If you can Code you can make Games for it, its a OPEN SOURCE HandHeld  and it takes 128MB (Or less) Smart Media Cards (You can fit apparently EVERY NES game onto One 128MB SMC Card hehe)
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Mar 2005 02:10 Post subject: |
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| flib wrote: | | Depends on the price is I guess which'll depend on whether I get one, they look quite coo' after watching the Sony conference at E3 but I can imagine they'll probably retail at like £300 (uk) |
Nonsense. I reckon half that price.
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Mar 2005 09:11 Post subject: |
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I will buy it off the bat if it is 150 quid or less, if more then I will wait for a killer game such as GTA, GT4 PSP, PES/WE
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Mar 2005 11:21 Post subject: |
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Yes, I think it wil llikely be cracked... See the Memory Stick Duo, if they manage to compress the games to a low size ( Removing Movies, Music etc)
and El brio what are you talking about the PSP got the same graphical features as the PS2... jeezz
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Mar 2005 14:37 Post subject: |
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Asking if a psp game is pirateable is like asking if Jesus is going to return. It might happen we all cross our fingers but we are not going to hold our breaths.
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Mar 2005 14:50 Post subject: |
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It would surprise me if It's possible to pirate the games. I'm sure Sony are sick of the pirate copying and have worked very hard on protecting the software/games. They must have learned something after all these years.
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| Posted: Sat, 12th Mar 2005 14:53 Post subject: |
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why the hell would you wanna remove the movies or music? I think soon there will be some GB sticks where you can just play full games.
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2005 17:38 Post subject: |
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| Steve-O 2004 wrote: | It does have a Memory Slot thow for maybe Possible Homebrew Games
Anyway... Get a GP32 !!!! SNES, NES, MEGADRIVE, GAMEBOY, GAMEBOY COLOUR, MASTER SYSTEM, ATARI ST (AND one HELL of alot more consoles) DivX, XviD, MP3, IMAGE VIEWER, Old PC Games Like DOOM and DOOM 2 And MUCH MUCH MUCH More ALL in ONE Hand Held Console!!!!!!!! PLus Homemade Games ... If you can Code you can make Games for it, its a OPEN SOURCE HandHeld and it takes 128MB (Or less) Smart Media Cards (You can fit apparently EVERY NES game onto One 128MB SMC Card hehe) |
LoL, its funny how good you think the GP32 is, when a GBA can fully/almost fully emulate every game system you listed there. And also do the things that you listed there.
Anyways, as for playing pirated/homebrewed games on the PSP I would imagine it would be very easy. The only real problem being understanding the workings of the actual device. It isnt like the DS which uses the ARM7/9 so you can easily program for it. The PSP contains almost no encryption though, unlike the DS which contains an RSA encryption for the entire ROM of the DS card. And the RSA encryption is 128bit security with a key that changes every second. So it is currently near impossible to have a DS "Flash Card" Of sorts. I would imagine that for the PSP you could simply put what you needed on the memory stick, put some weird header on it, and then it would read it like you wanted it to read. The same goes for the DS though. Currently on the DS because of the GBA port, you can actually put DS game code on a GBA flash cart, then here is the tricky part. For the code to be run off the GBA port in "DS Mode" You must first run code coming through the DS card port which then says to read off of the GBA port, and wala. Your set.
So basically in a matter of months you will see "Pass Through" Kits for the DS which will basically contain some weird unit which goes into your DS card port, and then you can simply use a GBA flash cart to put your DS games on it.
So basically, pirating/homebrewing for the PSP is much easier.
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2005 18:29 Post subject: |
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wala? i thought it was voila? ...... anyway sounds like a nice idea but in the real world it doesnt work like that. i think part of that "idea" is made up, if you can explain it in 1 paragraph then im sure it would already be out.
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2005 19:55 Post subject: |
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*sigh* I love how you act like I just pulled this out of my ass. I have knowledge in this area. And it is allready *out* per say, but you need to build your own pass through unit. Also, next time I suggest you do a little research on a topic before trying to make me look unknowledgable.
In the real world it doesnt work like that? What do you know about the real world in this area of technology when you dont know anything about it to begin with. Please. In case you didnt realize it, but of course it takes much more work then what I described, but in a general sense, thats what must be done.
http://gbadev.org/
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2005 21:34 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2005 21:36 Post subject: |
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why 2? :/
edit: looking into this gp32 whats flu and blu? cheapest place to buy 1?
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2005 22:06 Post subject: |
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| Posted: Sun, 13th Mar 2005 23:37 Post subject: |
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Ty...... i look on the market place no are on sale 
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Mar 2005 00:06 Post subject: |
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| Steve-O 2004 wrote: | | Mchart wrote: | LoL, its funny how good you think the GP32 is, when a GBA can fully/almost fully emulate every game system you listed there. And also do the things that you listed there.
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haha... That Makes me laugh very hard
GBA Screen = Small and shit, GBA Emulation Speed = Shit, Overall GBA Emulation = Shit, Films on GBA = Shit compaired to the GP32  TRUST me
GP32 Now Has MAME emulation and nearly every game out of the 670 odd supported is full speed
If you want Emulation go for the GP32, If you want high quality Commercial Games get a PSP... I already have 2 GP32's and will be getting a PSP soon |
1.) Yes the screen size is smaller, but In turn the entire unit is completely pocket sized
2.) You have no idea what you are talking about emulation wise, I suggest you research what your talking about before you go ahead and talk out of your ass. Im perfectly aware of the specifications of both units, but you seem to forget one thing. Mode 7. The GBA is equipped with Mode 0 which is the equivalent to SNES mode 7 support. This is why emulation of previous nintendo systems is so easy on the GBA. Stop talking out of your ass.
3.) The GBA SP costs 80 dollars now, the GP32 is over 200 dollars, with basic accessories. You could just lay down 150 for the nintendo DS which has all the capabilities of the GBA, but also includes the added new features, which means for Even more COMPLETE emulation of previous nintendo and sega consoles. Your GP32 will never completely emulate NES or even SNES because emulation on the GP32 with these consoles is like trying to fit a sphere in a square hole. It works, but it is nothing near complete emulation. At least the GBA and especially the DS can fully emulate previous consoles. You seem to fail to realize that more speed on a processor != better.
4.) I obviously will not "trust" you, because you know jack shit about what your talking about.
And yes, I am well aware of the costs of a flash kit. But now most GBA flash kits (Linker + flash cart 256mb) cost under 100 dollars. So in the end it is still much cheaper.
Oh, and I forgot to mention that the battery life of a GP32 is equal to that of a dying llama. And forget about putting it in your pocket and easily pulling it out when you want to play a game.
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Mar 2005 18:14 Post subject: |
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You still fail to realize that processor speed is not important. Because of the fact that the GBA renders and computes its data very similary to a SNES did, that means SNES emulation on a GBA doesnt require the massive amount of processing power. Why? Because many features do not need to be emulated. Also for your information the only emulator you mentioned which does not work fully is snesadvance. It will work fully on the DS though. I also love your little experiment with the flash CARTS. You can get lower memory versions for as little as 80 dollars like I said.
Not to mention I can also play GBA games and DS games, which sure is better then much other things.
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Mar 2005 20:19 Post subject: |
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Im not talking about the DS.. The DS Has only just been released and is a modern handheld with new technology where as the GP32 is 4 years old (or more). Of course the DS will be faster you idiot, thats why we are just compairing the GP32 and GBA
Yes maybe you can get a lower down flash card, but how much can you store on one .. a 256mbit card costs $100 and is only 32mb of space which is a load of crap, you need at least 128MB to have fun . You can get a Used GP32BLU with 4x 128MB SMC Cards for the price of teh GBA plus the Price of the actual Flash Card ($180)... if its suposed to be a portable emualation device 32mb is just stupidily low and not enough. I cant see you fitting Films, MP3's, SNES, NES, Megadrive, SMS, Atari ST, GB / GBC Games, MAME games etc etc on that tiny 32mb of space that cost you $100 ... Before you say "But you can just drag the files off your computer when you want them" thats useless if you are going on holiday or going for a long drive and want to watch a Film, Listen to MP3's and play games...
32mb of space is low, thats only about 10 snes roms (If that as you need space for the Emu and space to save)
Can you play the PC Version of Doom1 and 2 etc and play Doom Mods? Can you play the PC Version of Quake on the GBA?
And how come when I ask people that own both (a GP32 and GBA) they always say the GP32 has MUCH better Emulation..?
George W Bush -
'...more and more of our imports are coming from overseas.'
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Mar 2005 20:39 Post subject: |
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Just been talking to someone that has a GBA and GP32 and he said this -
"GBA can do SNES but it's a pile of shite on it"
"The GBA Nes emulator rocks but Little John is just as good if not better thanks to the higher res screen of the GP32" (Little John is the GP32's NES emu)
"There isn't a MD emu for the GBA"
"the GB Mono emu for the GBA is pretty good"
"There is no GBC emu for the GBA"
"Doom 1 and 2 were released as commercial games, neither are as good as the GP32 port and Quake is a big no go on GBA"
"there is a commercial video player for the GBA, again not as good as the FREE GP32 one" and for decent quality 1Gbit card is required to watch a whole film
Also, Mchart, you said the GBA Can Do Every Console I listed but it cant...
George W Bush -
'...more and more of our imports are coming from overseas.'
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| Posted: Mon, 14th Mar 2005 21:21 Post subject: |
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http://hem.passagen.se/flubba/gbadown.html
http://drsms.webpersona.com/
# Amstrad CPC
# Arcade
# Atari 2600
# BBC Micro
# Chip8
# Colecovision
# C64
# Game Boy
# Interpreters
# Lynx
# NES
# PCEngine
# Sharp X-1
# SMS
# SNES
# Supervision
# ZX Spectrum
The only ones which dont run that great are the SNES advance as you mentioned, and lynx. Although most of the popular SNES games will run on snes advance just fine without sound. This includes contra 3, TMNT4, megaman x, etc..
Not to mention I have yet to fill up my 256mb flash cart because I dont put GBA roms on it. Once again, you fail to mention that almost all of these systems had very small sized games. I have over 50 NES games, 2 snes games, 12 sms games, and 1 turbografix game on mine, and I still have room left over.
Not to mention, why would I need a GBC emu when I can run real GBC and GBC flash carts on the GBA anyways? Then with the fact that I can still play normal GBA games, its the icing on the cake. You also cant deny that the level portability of the GBA SP is much better then then GP32.
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