More anger for my country.
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Lopin18




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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Aug 2013 02:51    Post subject: More anger for my country.
Outrage and tears of fucking anger, some germans who managed an helping organization got assaulted in their home by a squad of police and army men guided by generals, one killed and other hurt, abused and tortured.

They got charged with possession of illegal arms last year. This happened last year, and they have been jailed since.

Now everything blew up, it was a plot to steal 60 million pesos the organization had to help the community (41 pesos = 1 dollar), the illegal weapons? airsoft guns, hunting crossbows and personal 9mm guns.

3 generals involved, several men are being investigated.

IM so angered now that i saw the video, i wish i could do something, but i cant, ohhh this fucking country.

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StarSpeak




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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Aug 2013 05:17    Post subject:
you should read lewrockwell.com more. then you'll see this kind of thing is routine for the criminals the plain folk call 'the government', and cease to be surprised at the results of great power and almost no accountability.


piracy isn't a hobby, it's a way of life
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Lopin18




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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Aug 2013 05:23    Post subject:
I know, but i cant help but blow up when i see stuff like this.

It was a rural residential area, full of german families who retired here and live here, wealthy people, framed with airsoft guns, and legally owned guns, stolen all the money used by the community etc. I can only pray that i never face such an abuse, this is horrendous.
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Aug 2013 12:14    Post subject:
why would those germans move and setup over in the DR like that anyhow lol.. the place is not the most safe at best.

agitated at the start of that cam i see, but he picked up something out the back of the vehicle probably a weapon by looks of it, not sure ill get through 17mins of this footage Very Happy

watched more, yep those germans grabbed more weapons and were waving them around, hence why they were then trained on by them.. nothing worse than upset people waving a gun about Very Happy

I see nothing in that video that does not look other than a normal bust, with rowdy people not wanting to be searched.... more info needed here.
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flipp




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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Aug 2013 14:58    Post subject:
Are you defending the attackers? The corrupt police?
They executed one of the Germans, jailed all of the other people around and tortured some of them for several hours to steal all their stuff.
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deelix
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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Aug 2013 15:30    Post subject:
Lopin18 wrote:
I know, but i cant help but blow up when i see stuff like this.

It was a rural residential area, full of german families who retired here and live here, wealthy people, framed with airsoft guns, and legally owned guns, stolen all the money used by the community etc. I can only pray that i never face such an abuse, this is horrendous.
You are originally from the US, right?
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speedgear




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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Aug 2013 15:35    Post subject:
still they got nice beaches and bitches.


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Or just a defense mechanism. If you fart, you'll most definitely smell it so your brain tells you it ain't bad as strangerfarts.
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Lopin18




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PostPosted: Fri, 16th Aug 2013 15:59    Post subject:
Wish i was american at least.... Nah im dominican sadly. They moved here because its nice to live here, lots of tourism and shit, sadly its unsafe. Hence why they all had weapons, legal ones.


That video isnt complete, i saw another one from the beginning.

At first, the german guys arrived in the ATV and the jeep and they IMMEDIATELY got pointed with guns, so he started yelling "Whats happening, this is a private property" and the police kept pointing at them then one of them grabed his shotgun. Who the fuck wouldnt, in this country thieves have military clothes, so of course he was gonna grab it, but he never aimed the shotgun.

Then they started talking "wheres the DA, wheres the raid autorization, this is illegal without it, private property" the DA wasnt present, they didnt have any papers, they just started pointing guns and trying to disarm them. Just like thieves do when they make fake raids.

Then it starts getting messy, no papers so they want the police to back off, they get pushed around, hit, shots are fired, they fight for the shotgun, then one of them has an insulin atack and gets his spray kicked away, he starts yelling for medic gets stomped on his head.

In the end, the DA arrived, they had autorization to raid 6 houses, they raided ALL the houses (more than 10), stole everything they saw, didnt raid 2 of the autorized houses.

Then the credit cards stolen were used, police involved were caught using large sums of money, and then some police man started confirming, 2 safe boxes were stolen from the germans house, 1.5 million dollars. AAAAND all the guns and weapons were never found again.

Theres a problem in this country, I have military clothes to play airsoft, everyone can get active military clothes, so in this country if the police apears in front of you, its either the real police or thieves dressed like police completely armed to the teeth with bulletproof jackets who are gonna rob u. So i perfectly understand how they acted, without a DA you can know if its real or not.
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JahLux
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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Aug 2013 11:35    Post subject:
Such a beautiful country yet so much fucking shit goes on there...

humans lol wut lol wut
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Aug 2013 12:39    Post subject:
flipp wrote:
Are you defending the attackers? The corrupt police?
They executed one of the Germans, jailed all of the other people around and tortured some of them for several hours to steal all their stuff.


no what I was saying is that I have only seen that cam vid and it looked like a normal shake down with those large german guys waving weapons around.... I didnt see any killing, any punching/abuse just rounding up and not once was there any brutality in that vid.. that is all I was saying.

I was curious where the actual source and proof of the other side of it all about the killing and robbing was..
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Sin317
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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Aug 2013 12:42    Post subject:
weird definition of a "normal shake down" there rofl. The whole scene alone looks more like a robbery then a police action.
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Aug 2013 13:33    Post subject:
Sin317 wrote:
weird definition of a "normal shake down" there rofl. The whole scene alone looks more like a robbery then a police action.


You seem to be interpreting the video forced thought here because of the original posters words on said matter.... ignore and wipe out what you read in this thread, watch the video cam again and think other than oh its a robbery cause I was told it was Very Happy

come on sin are you blind lol..

the ones running around and waving the most with hands everywhere were the non uniformed people ... gee.. watch it again.

the non uniformed ones were all over the place to right to left back forth etc and the uniformed guys were following and bringing them back or trying to keep them all where the vehicles were, finaly they had to restrain some I think behind one vehicle on floor. but it looks like it was the two large guys that were all over the place and in the face of the uniformed guys..

looked pretty controlled to me considering the public under law were not doing as they were told, obviously..
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flipp




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Aug 2013 14:36    Post subject:
moosenoodles wrote:

I was curious where the actual source and proof of the other side of it all about the killing and robbing was..

There were several other security cameras. The police destroyed all of them, but they didn't know that the footage was uploaded already.
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moosenoodles




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Aug 2013 15:13    Post subject:
flipp wrote:
moosenoodles wrote:

I was curious where the actual source and proof of the other side of it all about the killing and robbing was..

There were several other security cameras. The police destroyed all of them, but they didn't know that the footage was uploaded already.


look I dont mean to be an ass here but if this was a ufo is true cam vid shows all etc and then you got three good recordings one shakey old cam one and then they go big storm destroyed the good ones but the old one was left its all we got as proof now.... type of thing..

see where im going with this?

it still dont say anything does it really?

If there is footage of the brutality and pure dissregard for law then its different I just dont see it in that vid that is available.
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Lopin18




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PostPosted: Sat, 17th Aug 2013 22:24    Post subject:
Thing is that the complete video shows how they arrived calmly and got pointed at in their home, remember, here uniforms =/= cops, anyone can have guns and uniforms, so when they arrive they dont know if its real and more so when they start asking for orders or papers which they dont have.

Brutality was recorded, at one part when the guy is yelling medic one of the cops goes to him and says "shut the fuck up faggot motherfucker" and he is seen doing a sudden movement, he kicked him in the head against the floor.

Sadly its a fucking mess and the whole deal of the looting, the DA being absent, no papers shown, non autorized houses raided, stolen credit cards used by the cops in shopping and 2 strong boxes with 1.5 million dollars missing has given the german's words all the rights to be taken as truth.

I do understand your point moose, but i wish you knew spanish to hear what the cops actually said there, all i said was taken as true in the ongoing trials by people who did analize everything available. Theres no twist here. Just a sad true story of corruption within the cops planing a bust to raid a house that had 1.5 million dollars.

Edit: Also the guy who was killed lived in a house that wasnt authorized for the raid, seems like he was seeing what happened and he put on a vest and got his gun and he went with his wife to a garage that was in the back of the land. He hid there, i can bet he thought it was a robbery with fake cops, so he seems to have defended himself and got shot and killed. Now that is being taken into account because the cops went to an area that wasnt autorized and made a shootout with the guy and according to proof, they didnt find any bullets fired from his gun.

Also an Haitian who was a gardener got shot 3 times in the legs, a video shows the cops entering the house, pushing him out to the garden and one of them just suddenly said "shot him in the legs, POOM, again, POOM, another one."

Im sick of it and i hope they all fucking rot in jail.
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