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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Sep 2013 05:08    Post subject: I am in LOVE dammit!!!!!!!!




Unfortunately it will never be... Because I refuse to buy a guitar that is also an ad for Opeth. That Opeth-O ruined the entire beautiful thing. But the real reason I fell in love with it friday was that I was in my local music shop to buy a metronome and some picks and decided to check out some amps. I've just started getting back into playing guitar after nearly 10 years of nada (I got burnt out after being backstabbed by my band after I wrote all the music for the two albums and singles released and suddenly it wasn't fun anymore).

I've contacted PRS and asked them if they have a model in the same price range with a neck that is as close to the one on the PRS Mikael Åkerfeldt Signature Edition without a bloody band-logo ruining it. While waiting for an answer I'm going back to the music shop this week to try out a bunch of other guitars to see if I find something that has a neck that is like sex (like on the Åkerfeldt signature edition, it was like the neck was shaped after my hands, grip and fingering. It was just so perfect).

And if it hadn't been for that fucking Opeth-O it would've been one of the most gorgeous guitars I've ever played. On the wall they had a €3600 PRS but I didn't even go near it out of fear of scratching the finish. I can't go any higher than €700 no matter what. And I still won't have an amp (last one is gone, I sold it or something after the backstab and leaving the band) but I don't give a shit. I'll use GuitarRig 5 until I can scrape together to an amp.. something by Orange seems very attractive at the moment.


Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn!

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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Sep 2013 05:48    Post subject:
you mean the SE mike akerfeldt? don't let that letter prevent you from buying that beauty, i own a SE billy martin (good charlotte Laughing Laughing ) and i'm loving it
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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Sep 2013 06:25    Post subject:
You know, when I sat down and gripped the neck it was like a hard-on.. When I started picking with my tortex pick it was suddenly sweet love... Never played a guitar feeling so good. It played itself, I was just enjoying it to death.

But I can't wrap my mind about standing on stage with a guitar with another bands logo on it. I'm no Opeth fan (although I really really dig Åkerfeldts guitar playing and several Opeth songs). Out of all SE's that's the ONLY one with a bloody Band symbol ruining the sweet red-tinted wood grain which was matte-treated and then gloss-lacquered. And the neck.. Feels better gripping that neck than my own p*nis.


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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Sep 2013 06:51    Post subject:
do the trashy thing and put a sticker on it Cool Face
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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Sep 2013 14:32    Post subject:
u could probably waste money and put a new finish on the guitar.

and do u really need the tremolo?


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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Sep 2013 14:52    Post subject:
The relationship between a man and his guitar is truly a special one. Granted I've been neglecting my Schecter this year due to time constraints, we've shared many good moments. Nothing like having a shitty day, picking up a guitar and letting it all out.

Good on ya Frant Wink


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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Sep 2013 15:08    Post subject:
we need a guitar show off thread :>


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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Sep 2013 15:46    Post subject:
Let's try a different approach....

Why do you dislike Opeth? Have you considered the option to make peace with Opeth for the sake of the beautiful guitar? Relationships require sacrifices, you know.
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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Sep 2013 16:04    Post subject:
FHITB! Very Happy

Ohh wait... Sad


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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Sep 2013 16:24    Post subject:
What's an opeth?
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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Sep 2013 16:36    Post subject:
This is "an opeth":

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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Sep 2013 17:05    Post subject:
I liked the world better when I didn't know what an Opeth was. Okay


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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Sep 2013 17:19    Post subject:
MORPHINEUS wrote:
I liked the world better when I didn't know what an Opeth was. Okay


You don't like music made by skilled musicians?


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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Sep 2013 17:42    Post subject:
_SiN_ wrote:
MORPHINEUS wrote:
I liked the world better when I didn't know what an Opeth was. Okay


You don't like music made by skilled musicians?

They are perfect and that makes them very boring. Hell, they are not playing, they are doing public masturbation with musical instruments, that's how perfect they are Sad


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PostPosted: Mon, 30th Sep 2013 18:28    Post subject:
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They are perfect and that makes them very boring. Hell, they are not playing, they are doing public masturbation with musical instruments, that's how perfect they are Sad


I like them, but they are not that good. Dream Theater on the other hand, I can totally see how watching a band like Dream Theater live can make musicians depressed.

 Spoiler:
 


EDIT: Forget that video. Just look at the keyboard player alone. He can make lesser musicians put down their instruments for good:



He improvises such shit every other day for his youtube followers
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2013 11:51    Post subject:
kazemaky wrote:
u could probably waste money and put a new finish on the guitar.

and do u really need the tremolo?


I won't use the trem (unless I want to get into some Jeff Beck action). And the finish is already perfect. You have to sit with a brand new one in your hands to really appreciate it. Btw, I ordered it yesterday, got the price down even more.. Based on the Modern Eagle design (€5000 for one of those, minimum), satin-smooth neck (no sweaty hands getting stuck, instead totally effortless smooth sliding along the neck.. sexual thing that)... fingering that ebony fretboard.. just... sooooo sweeeeeet...

I'm going to get a good graphic designer I know very well design a perfect symbol that will be printed on pro-transparent vinyl covering the Opeth-O with my own symbol (a chaos star-symbol (a ring with 8 directional arrows of different lengths) which is already a personal idea/thing with me), an ornate and beautiful symbol that is designed with the guitars design, colours etc. in mind.


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2013 11:56    Post subject:
me7 wrote:
Let's try a different approach....

Why do you dislike Opeth? Have you considered the option to make peace with Opeth for the sake of the beautiful guitar? Relationships require sacrifices, you know.


I don't dislike Opeth. In fact, I liked them quite a bit ( I still do love some of their stuff... Ghosts of Perdition.. aaaaaahhh... I have a bunch of original cd's with them as well). I'm just not a member of Opeth and I want a personal guitar. Unfortunately I'm not a famous musician Like Åkerfeldt that can just call PRS up and get whatever he wants when he wants (like some other awesome guitarists).

The Opeth-O in itself is beautiful, a kind of pearlescent gold-inlay.. but I'm not Opeth, I won't play Opeth's music. I want my own personal touch to the look (well, the designers' based on my wishes which she already knows).


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2013 12:02    Post subject:
WhiteBarbarian wrote:
_SiN_ wrote:
MORPHINEUS wrote:
I liked the world better when I didn't know what an Opeth was. Okay


You don't like music made by skilled musicians?

They are perfect and that makes them very boring. Hell, they are not playing, they are doing public masturbation with musical instruments, that's how perfect they are Sad


Opeth aren't perfect. They're not Dream Theater. Wink Wink Wink

They're skilled but most importantly have a completely unique sound and style that is very Swedish. I liked a couple of songs off DT's "Awake" album, then they sort of lost me and became somewhat boring.. not to mention that I really can't stand the vocalist. Like having Justin Bieber in Iron Maiden.

I did enjoy their "Dark Side of the Moon" live where they performed the entire album from start to finish without turning it into progressive shredding. Petrucci really surprised me by showing constraint.

One guitarist that sucks so much ass is Yngwie Malmsteen. He can run phrygian scaled (dominant, added sus/dim whatever) in 32ths at 160bpm and it means absolutely nothing. It's just a series of notes without meaning. Meanwhile someone like Jimmy Page or whatever can play three notes in that same time frame and tell a story.

The only "shredder" I know that can transmit some feeling and not just sweeps, legato and speed-picking is Joe Satriani. A few of his songs are really cool.. "New Blues" off The Extremist is a good example of that. He can run super fast legatos an entire song if he wanted but he doesn't.

Every cover I've heard by Malmsteen is totally ruined by "blrblreblrblrlbrlbrlrb" runs, killing the feeling of the song and the performance. Dont' get me wrong, I think it's "cool" when Michael Angelo play his 4-necked X-guitar (2 necks at the same time) and plays both solo and rhythm at the same time but I'd never buy an album with him.

If there's any "shredder" I'd buy an album of it would have to be Guthrie Govan because he writes the most awesome songs. And that's what it all boils down to: writing a song where things fit instead of wanking off "because I can and it will impress". Doesn't impress me one bit.



If guitar technique/speed was a competition Malmsteen, Vai, Gilbert, Bumblefoot, Satriani, Angelo and all the others should just hang up their guitars and look for a job as a street cleaner. But it's NOT a contest, it's music... audioemotional pleasure, messages, anything.

What, a "shredder" that has done something beautiful?


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2013 12:13    Post subject:
_SiN_ wrote:
MORPHINEUS wrote:
I liked the world better when I didn't know what an Opeth was. Okay


You don't like music made by skilled musicians?


Not that music no, doesn't matter if they were brilliant or not Wink


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2013 12:19    Post subject:
MORPHINEUS wrote:
_SiN_ wrote:
MORPHINEUS wrote:
I liked the world better when I didn't know what an Opeth was. Okay


You don't like music made by skilled musicians?


Not that music no, doesn't matter if they were brilliant or not Wink


Taste is like a fart. You like your own smell but can't stand others smell.


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2013 12:28    Post subject:


Impressive though.. But... the songs are dull. He's a player, not a writer.


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2013 12:29    Post subject:
Indeed, therefore it doesn't matter how skilled someone passes gas! Everything Went Better Than Expected


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2013 12:41    Post subject:
Did you never think about making a video yourself, Frant. Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2013 13:07    Post subject:
couleur wrote:
Did you never think about making a video yourself, Frant. Smile


Nope.

I actually have a kind of performance anxiety (funny since I've been in a band and on stage in a festival, a club in gothenburg etc. although I got a full panic attack once and that gig was fucked... and the band and I split at that point anyway). Besides, I've just started again after a ~10 year hiatus (although I did some stuff in 2006 and then in 2008). Now I'm taking lessons shake all the rust off my fingers and brain, got a new metronome to resynchronise left and right hand and get chord-change fluent again.

In 2008 I did 4 test-ideas and it was shaky and my timing was off, I had no callouses on my fingers (they ached for days after these 4 short test-snippets), then I lost the steam again and haven't played a note since.. Until just a week ago. I'm comin' back baby.


NOTE: These must be left-clicked for whatever reason my ISP chose:
www.tormentorium.st/test1_2008.mp3
www.tormentorium.st/test2_2008_schizo.mp3
www.tormentorium.st/test3_2008_passage_of_time.mp3
www.tormentorium.st/test4_2008_here_we_rock.mp3

Reaper DAW with EZDrummer+DFH + guitarrig (and my brother-in-laws bass where used) through Guitarrig as well (the bass patches).

First three tests lost me in the spaced out dreamy effects of Guitarrig so it's only test 4 that is an actual "session". Managed to get a good sound in the last one for a slinky old single-coil strat.


Oh, forgot these two, raw demos that I did with my brother-in-law in 2008 (we thought about starting some kind of doom-rock/metal band having grown tired of the whole thrash/death genre):

www.tormentorium.st/tormentorium/tormentorium_-_wip_-_1._in_order_there_is_chaos.mp3
www.tormentorium.st/tormentorium/tormentorium_-_wip_-_2._in_chaos_there_is_order.mp3

We recorded some unarranged stuff for a third idea but it simmered out into nothing. We'll see if we'll get together and rework these things and do more songs, find a drummer and a vocalist (the two most difficult members to find since drummers are rare and only certain vocalists work with certain kinds of music).

I think I did this one on my own at that same time:
www.tormentorium.st/rainface_test.mp3

Oh, and this thing from 2006. Seems as the years pass, the less "metal" I want to play and more doomy/heavy or bluesy/rocking stuff.

www.tormentorium.st/2006_-_test_1.mp3

(I'm calling this post "expose-therapy" Wink )

I have to stop being afraid of letting other people listen to what I've done just because I'm not Tony Iommi or Jimmy Page Razz


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2013 18:54    Post subject:
Frant wrote:


I have to stop being afraid of letting other people listen to what I've done just because I'm not Tony Iommi or Jimmy Page Razz


You definately have to stop that.

I really like your sound. Its already better than alot of the stuff I hear from the small young independent bands here in LU.

So there is no reason to hide. Smile


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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2013 21:28    Post subject:
couleur wrote:
Frant wrote:


I have to stop being afraid of letting other people listen to what I've done just because I'm not Tony Iommi or Jimmy Page Razz


You definately have to stop that.

I really like your sound. Its already better than alot of the stuff I hear from the small young independent bands here in LU.

So there is no reason to hide. Smile

garus wrote:
@Frant wow! I checked out all the samples you provided and they sound really great. Keep it up Smile


This.
It's time to gain the confidence that you need to make the big step, it's not too late, it's never too late!

I'm no musician unfortunately, just a fan of metal and good ol' rock, but all I can say is, I'm quite impressed. Smile You can easily go from relaxing moody stuff to classic rock melodies to the doomy atmospheric ones. I really like your samples and I think you should really continue that way and keep following 'the right path'. Razz I'm looking forward to hearing more tracks!
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PostPosted: Thu, 3rd Oct 2013 22:19    Post subject:
Yes, Guthrie Govan is insanely good. He plays fretless guitar cleaner than many famous rock stars play on their fretted ones:

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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Oct 2013 00:15    Post subject:
me7 wrote:
Yes, Guthrie Govan is insanely good. He plays fretless guitar cleaner than many famous rock stars play on their fretted ones:



Sounds like the music they had in the nature films I was watching when I was younger Smug


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PostPosted: Fri, 4th Oct 2013 15:39    Post subject:
Okay, the covering of the Opeth-O is becoming more advanced (and much cooler and unique)... I found out a guy I know have a 3D-printer at his work (he's a 3D-designer etc.) and I know a very good graphical designer. Combine the two..

She creates the design, he turns the 2D-surface into a 3D-object with a height of about ~3 millimetre and make a "bell-curve" shape of it so the edges of it will "fade" into the guitar body.

Then some P1000 sandpaper (very fine) to get a very smooth surface. A thin spray of black base colour on it, then coloring/painting commence.. and finally a semi-gloss thin layer of lacquer.. Goal is to have it feel smooth to run your hand over and fit nicely with the guitar body.

Finally a non-destructive adhesive that doesn't affect the guitars coating in any way.

And I have a guitar that is unique and personal as far as that is concerned.

I want a chaos symbol as a 3D-object as describe above to cover the Opeth-O and make it entirely personal and fit with my own ideas. And I'm attracted to the idea of chaos and the symbol of it (as you can see from the titles of the two doom-metal/rock songs above).


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